Do People With The Same Biology Magnetically Attract Each Other ?

[YourUniverse]

I wasn't really thinking of something like this as a behavior. I was thinking more personality I guess. I thought he meant your personality affects your hormones, so if you change that you affect your hormones. It may, but I wonder to what degree.

I see what you're saying, I think cognitive behavioural therapy is basically what youre talking about - changing your thoughts to change your reactions, which will change your hormonal reaction

 

[LUH 3417]

Indeed, if you felt compelled to post this because of something I wrote, Ill note that energy =/= dominance, but that dominance/submissiveness is a personality trait. Someone can be high energy and submissive, or estrogenic and dominant, just to clear that up from my end

Mania could be a high energy state (or maybe not, I’m not sure) however it can be both passive and submissive, for example.

 

[cyclops]

I see what you're saying, I think cognitive behavioural therapy is basically what youre talking about - changing your thoughts to change your reactions, which will change your hormonal reaction

Yea, and honestly I have my doubts that changing your thoughts and personality affects your hormones to any great degree. Or maybe it is just difficult to do so when the body is sick. I feel you need to change the body first. Or at least that has a greater affect.

 

[YourUniverse]

Good post.

Besides thyroid, I can think of other things that add into your bank account of high generative energy:

yoga, meditation, deep breathing, clean, real food (organic, pastures, grassfed etc) not canned, jarred, boxed, etc., avoiding MSM (mainstream media), fulfilling, loving relationships, supportive social network, work you are passionate about, nature walks, hikes, climbing, camping, fishing etc, inspiring music, supportive fun body movement, positive outlook, ETC...

FYI...notice none of the things I mentioned really *cost* anything other than desire and time...except maybe the good food.

Thanks for this list @lisaferraro

 

[johnwester130]

fasting, not reccomended, but it increases energy and happiness.

Probably because the bowel is not irritated and empty, confirming the serotonin theory of energy production

 

[LUH 3417]

fasting, not reccomended, but it increases energy and happiness.

Probably because the bowel is not irritated and empty, confirming the serotonin theory of energy production

Do you know if peat has ever written about the difference between fasting during/in meditative and minimal stress environments or fasting while working and studying?

 

[johnwester130]

Do you know if peat has ever written about the difference between fasting during/in meditative and minimal stress environments or fasting while working and studying?

you don't need to fast. LSD will block all serotonin and put you in a similar frame of mind.
but of course don't try this.

 

[LUH 3417]

you don't need to fast. LSD will block all serotonin and put you in a similar frame of mind.
but of course don't try this.

I have done LSD multiple times and would like to move away from drugs and supplements so I’m wondering about fasting

 

[johnwester130]

I have done LSD multiple times and would like to move away from drugs and supplements so I’m wondering about fasting

fasting is bad and slows down thyroid function

theanine lowers serotonin. progesterone. t3. cypro. Lisuride looks interesting too

 

[LUH 3417]

fasting is bad and slows down thyroid function

theanine lowers serotonin. progesterone. t3. cypro. Lisuride looks interesting too

Thanks. I took progesterone Cypro and lisuride. I started to experience broken capillaries (maybe from too many oscillations in BP) and am looking for non pharmacological interventions.

 

[YourUniverse]

fasting is bad and slows down thyroid function

theanine lowers serotonin. progesterone. t3. cypro. Lisuride looks interesting too

And gelatin, niacinamide, low-starch diet... psilocybin mushrooms...

 

[cyclops]

theanine lowers serotonin.

What do you think a good dose of theanine would be for this?

 

[Collden]

How can you tell who has high or low thyroid function just from those pictures?

The men in these pictures have the sign of hertoghe, or thinning of the outer part of the eyebrows. Unless they have dermatitis this is a classic sign of underactive thyroid. For Paul Bettany though he may just have a total lack of pigment in his hair so makes it difficult to see.

 

[Collden]

In my experience energy attracts, but personal compatibility selects. I find it hard to fathom Paul Bettany or Daniel Craig (who I can only assume is who you're noting is the "low energy" mate..?) has any trouble with energy production. What you may be thinking of is personality, how dominant or submissive each individual is content to be, and I think thats one of many characteristics that determine how compatible two people may be.

There is no way Jennifer Connelly would be attracted to a low energy, chronically sad, depressive, PTSD riddled overweight walk-all-over-me type, and thats not to say those types are bad, they need love in ways that aren't "fun" or attractive to most people (hence most men are told to "get their ***t together" before dating, or attempting to date). Rather, Ms Connelly is likely to select someone on her level, from men with various collections of traits that definitely include how successful/powerful/dominant that person is, which is really all I can gather from your pairing of pictures.

Also some of the most kind-hearted, down to earth people I know are the highest energy, with energy being quenching to the cell, so perhaps its my poor initial definition that has lead to your post and mine here, maybe Im not getting across what Im thinking perfectly.

For example, a male with high test, good thyroid health, and low stress hormones like cortisol estrogen prolactin, the way youd describe him is "cool, calm, and collected" which sounds boring and restrained, but is actually a very high-energy state of being. He will be intelligent, gregarious, generous, fun, kind, assertive (non-aggressive); he will have the energy necessary to relax, to be himself, to give opinions and defend his points, the confidence to look people in the eye and make his presence known, and etc.

Charisma is a function of energy, and charisma is universally attractive. Charisma can be used for good or evil, though. Its not to say energy = good and virtuous all the time. But energy will certainly attract other people virtually all the time.

To be clear I think all of the men I chose as examples are probably fit, strong and capable individuals with enough energy to succeed at life, no doubt about it, that doesnt necessarily preclude them having a lower than average thyroid function. Being a successful person is not about how much energy you have but how you use the energy that you do have. However, to be a truly great person of creative genius the likes of Stanley Kubrick or Richard Feynman, you probably do need to have strong thyroid function.

There are plenty of real-world examples of people with very strong thyroid function and high energy levels who are utter failures at life because they are not able or not willing to use their energy in a focused and productive manner, but instead crash and burn due to not being able to control their powerful emotions and desires. Take for instance Elliott Rodger, its evident both from his looks and his biography that he had very strong thyroid function and high energy levels, yet rather than succeeding at life he used his energy in unproductive ways and was destroyed from the inside by his powerful dark emotions of lust, jealousy and anger that he was unable to channel in useful ways. There are plenty of suicide bombers, terrorists, mass murderers, criminals, drug addicts and mentally deranged people who have very high energy levels but fail at life due to not being able to control their energy. Meanwhile there are plenty of people with lower energy levels who succeed at life because they use the energy available to them in focused and productive ways to pursue fitness, money, status and personal improvement that help them attract partners.

 

[YourUniverse]

To be clear I think all of the men I chose as examples are probably fit, strong and capable individuals with enough energy to succeed at life, no doubt about it, that doesnt necessarily preclude them having a lower than average thyroid function. Being a successful person is not about how much energy you have but how you use the energy that you do have. However, to be a truly great person of creative genius the likes of Stanley Kubrick or Richard Feynman, you probably do need to have strong thyroid function.

There are plenty of real-world examples of people with very strong thyroid function and high energy levels who are utter failures at life because they are not able or not willing to use their energy in a focused and productive manner, but instead crash and burn due to not being able to control their powerful emotions and desires. Take for instance Elliott Rodger, its evident both from his looks and his biography that he had very strong thyroid function, yet rather than succeeding at life he used his energy in unproductive ways and was destroyed from the inside by his powerful dark emotions of lust, jealousy and anger that he was unable to channel in useful ways. There are plenty of suicide bombers, terrorists, mass murderers, criminals, drug addicts and mentally deranged people who have very high energy levels but fail at life due to not being able to control their energy. Meanwhile there are plenty of people with lower energy levels who succeed at life because they use the energy available to them in focused and productive ways to pursue fitness, money, status and personal improvement that help them attract partners.

Surely. My post is not about success or failure in life, nor is it about good or evil. It is about what humans are attracted to, and that remains energy

 

[Collden]

Surely. My post is not about success or failure in life, nor is it about good or evil. It is about what humans are attracted to, and that remains energy

More energy is not always better, as we've seen having too much energy can be destructive if you fail to channel that energy in productive ways. There are several mental problems such as obsessive-compulsive behavior and antisocial personality disorder that are more common in people with elevated thyroid function, so people with very strong thyroid function may be attracted to people with somewhat lower than average thyroid function either to make sure their potential offspring have a more balanced thyroid function, or because the dynamics of intimate relationships are such that two very high-energy people with strong egos will eventually repel or destroy each other, like two positively charged ions.

And I think women are generally more attracted to lower-energy men who use their energy in a focused way to succeed at life, rather than high-energy men who use all their energy to play video games and jerk off to porn until 5 in the morning while plotting revenge against mankind.

 

[LUH 3417]

More energy is not always better, as we've seen having too much energy can be destructive if you fail to channel that energy in productive ways. There are several mental problems such as obsessive-compulsive behavior and antisocial personality disorder that are more common in people with elevated thyroid function, so people with very strong thyroid function may be attracted to people with somewhat lower than average thyroid function either to make sure their potential offspring have a more balanced thyroid function, or because the dynamics of intimate relationships are such that two very high-energy people with strong egos will eventually repel or destroy each other, like two positively charged ions.

And I think women are generally more attracted to lower-energy men who use their energy in a focused way to succeed at life, rather than high-energy men who use all their energy to play video games and jerk off to porn until 5 in the morning while plotting revenge against mankind.

I guess two manic depressives would be a match made in heaven?

Just kidding :)

 

[YourUniverse]

More energy is not always better, as we've seen having too much energy can be destructive if you fail to channel that energy in productive ways. There are several mental problems such as obsessive-compulsive behavior and antisocial personality disorder that are more common in people with elevated thyroid function, so people with very strong thyroid function may be attracted to people with somewhat lower than average thyroid function either to make sure their potential offspring have a more balanced thyroid function, or because the dynamics of intimate relationships are such that two very high-energy people with strong egos will eventually repel or destroy each other, like two positively charged ions.

And I think women are generally more attracted to lower-energy men who use their energy in a focused way to succeed at life, rather than high-energy men who use all their energy to play video games and jerk off to porn until 5 in the morning while plotting revenge against mankind.

We disagree here. Maybe hyperthyroidism isnt ideal, as too much of a good thing by definition never is, but strong, healthy metabolism, the type personified by the characteristics Ive listed previously, the kind which generously and authentically lends energy and positivity outwards, surely is the type of person we all like being around.

I also dont agree that people with strong metabolisms with high energy are necessarily ego-driven. They do not go hand in hand as far as Im concerned, as again, some of the kindest, most down to earth people I know are also the ones I feel best being around. They offer a gentle, pleasant aura of laughter, lightness, acceptance; they are vibrant, cheery, understanding, hard working people with what seems excellent mental and physical health, and mental health most surely correlates to metabolic health as with all the discussion on these boards about serotonin, dopamine, digestion, weight loss and etc. I like lisaferraro's list of things a person can do to increase their own inner energy production like walks in nature, meditation, music, deep breathing.

OCD, waste of energy with video games and porn and etc are not "high energy" in the way Im trying to describe, so my meaning might be lost in translation - your examples strike me as poor mental health, thus stressful, probably estrogen and cortisol-powered. Haidut has posts about isolation being due to PTSD, which is caused by high cortisol (cortisol:testosterone ratio to be precise); there are threads on the board describing the urge to masturbate as the effect of estrogen, and etc. Im talking about low-stress, high energy. Well functioning metabolism, which relies on all the different healths like mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, social. Stress can increase energy but my original post talked about "feel", as in how you "feel" around certain people, and without question I can feel whether someone is content and light-hearted or whether someone is silently agitated and stressed out, the people of the latter scenario would tend to leech energy as, despite their appearance of buoyancy and agility they are quite lacking in energy themselves.

 

[johnwester130]

my birthday is july 22nd

Does this "connect " to anyone on the forum