Dianne Feinstein Statement

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One thing I know. You can arm yourself with whatever you want. The government has even bigger guns, drones, bombs, tanks, a military, and most importantly, the ability to keep people from organizing. Do you think a well-armed militia (before it's infiltrated) can compete with that? Sorry, you can 2nd amendment all you want, the people will lose every time.
"the best defense against future violence, is to have a father at home."
For leftoids, SJWs, and cultural Marxists: VERY unacceptable. Fathers are locus of the PATRIARCHY, the greatest enemy of the human race! Near-future bumper sticker: Keep fathers out of home!

Badger.........did you just assume a father's gender?

How dare you!!!:cool:
 

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The American colonies won the Revolution thanks in large part to support from the French Empire (at that time still under absolute rule of the bourbons), who actually fielded infantry and Calvary against the British in the last key battles. Both the French and Spanish navies were also instrumental in that they were able to defend ports and cities from being bombarded by British warships, which would have had long lasting consequences on trade activity. And of course there was Lafayette, the famous general who was responsible for training the colonial troops until they were at least on par with the Hessian mercenaries and reserve troops making up the bulk of England's occupation force. Fortunately the English decided to post their more esteemed units in Continental Europe, and most of their regulars in India, being viewed as a potentially more profitable colony, and with the BEIC on the verge of loosing its grip.

So contrary to popular belief and the romance often told on TV or in schoolbooks, it was not a guerilla war after the first couple years, in which the colonies were in dire straights and close to surrendering until the French intervened with professional, state sponsored military power.
It was a actually a combination of guerilla war and conventional tactics throughout the war but my point is that the Revolution would never have gotten off the ground if it wasn't for an armed citizenry and their use of Guerilla tactics particularly after the battle at Lexington and Concord that sparked the initial enthusiasm for war and the belief that they could actually win.
 
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Let me reiterate, I'm pro-gun. The government isn't going in the front door to take away your liberty. They are sneaking in the figurative back door to destroy your health and your mind with shite food, pharmaceuticals, and propaganda. Again, the government can turn up the heat without getting involved in the gun issue. Guns will never be taken away from Americans. They knows this, and don't care. There are many ways to skin the American cat.
 

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Of course they don't, they know the USA wouldn't permit their government to do that. We're their eternal safety net. What if, though, US citizens were also disarmed?

Relevant: here's the full Bezmenov quote. "People all over the Earth, whether they praise America or bitterly criticize her, look upon you as the only hope for mankind's survival and the last stronghold of freedom. Some may not think in these idealistic terms, but they certainly enjoy the fruits of your civilization, often forgetting to be grateful for them. Millions of people in the so-called "socialist camp" or in the "Third World" literally owe their lives to America."

Strong words, no?
Bezmenov also said,
“The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years [50 years]. Actually, it’s over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him the concentration camps...he will refuse to believe it.... until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom. When the military boot crashes - then he will understand, but not before that. That’s the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.”

Most people live in a constant state of denial and dissociation. Chemtrails, what chemtrails?
 
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Look at what the IRS and over regulation does to ordinary citizens and businesses. The US is a neutered version of its old self. We have no manufacturing base, rights have been stripped dramatically since 9/11, and men are estrogen-d0minant weaklings. Again, guns will help to a point, but winning the information war is more important.
 

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50,000 deaths a year is a small price to pay for freedom from tyranny. The government doesn't care about the number of deaths but rather the potential resistance to their ever growing power. The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or self protection but rather resistance to tyranny through a well regulated militia i.e a citizen army.

I suspect the number of mass shootings will only increase until the government gets what it wants; a helpless citizenry.
This is fact
 
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You think there is any correlation between gun ownership and mass shootings? How does an armed citizenry stop a random gunman shooting from a high rise hotel? Please. As long as anti-depressants and mainstream media exposure thrives, mass shootings will be a popular pastime for lunatic "looking for headlines" gunmen.
 
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@x-ray peat, you stated a correlation: "I suspect the number of mass shootings will only increase until the government gets what it wants; a helpless citizenry."

Of course idiots will walk into a church, but most won't (especially in gun-loving Texas). I wish I had the numbers, but I feel like many of these shootings end with the shooter committing suicide.

Again, the elephant in the room is the correlation between anti-psychotics and mass shootings. The establishment has no intention of looking into that even though, like clockwork, the connection pops up every time.
 

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@x-ray peat, you stated a correlation: "I suspect the number of mass shootings will only increase until the government gets what it wants; a helpless citizenry."

Of course idiots will walk into a church, but most won't (especially in gun-loving Texas). I wish I had the numbers, but I feel like many of these shootings end with the shooter committing suicide.

Again, the elephant in the room is the correlation between anti-psychotics and mass shootings. The establishment has no intention of looking into that even though, like clockwork, the connection pops up every time.
I was actually pointing to a very different causal factor than what you have identified. Look at the discussion on the Las Vegas shooting for more info if interested. As an aside, other common links are reports of multiple shooters, an active shooter drill occurring concurrently or in the recent past and other unexplained anomalies that make the official narrative untenable.
 
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Stalinist calculus
Quite the opposite. Stalin's calculus is that the death of millions is just a statistic. I am saying that though tragic, a little more than 10,000 US homicides per year is worth it to prevent that Stalinist statistic from coming true. As an Austrian you should know how easy it is for Democracies to turn tyrannical.
 
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50,000 deaths a year is a small price to pay for freedom from tyranny. The government doesn't care about the number of deaths but rather the potential resistance to their ever growing power. The second amendment has nothing to do with hunting, or self protection but rather resistance to tyranny through a well regulated militia i.e a citizen army.

The government will NEVER directly declare war against us. But as long as they have the rebellious and free thinking among us amasing guns and preparing for some kind of violent takeover, they can continue to rob us blind like they have since the inception of this country.

Do you know what makes a citizenry helpless? Not disarmament. Civil obedience, now that's what makes us powerless. A citizenry that is brain dead from TV, entertainment, public education, rotten food, etc. is easy to control, even with guns. People need to police themselves and their own behavior and help guide others. Violence only breeds more violence. If you think the 2nd amendment is some kind of answer, knock yourself out. People can keep their guns, if that makes them feel better at the end of the day. What needs to change is the football-beer-Fourth of July-American Idol-social media-I got a Mercedes Benz mentality. If that doesn't change, we will always be slaves. The system laughs at us because they know guns give us this false sense of security. They don't want to disarm us. They want us dumbed down and armed. Even easier for them to assert even more control over us.

So you don't think we're slaves now? Dude, we are firmly on the plantation (with our guns).

You're right on the money. The people who manufacture guns are the same people we think were arming ourselves against when we buy them. Hilarious.

I do credit our founding fathers for laying out a framework. Kudos for that. But they could have never predicted the dumbing down of society. Hell, look at what our FDA does to protect us. Think guns work against the FDA? or Big Pharma? or Hollywood?

Your founding fathers were elite scumbags just like the lawyers and politicians of today. You wouldn't be indoctrinated to worship them in schools if they were actual good guys. Sorry but you've been had.

The American colonies won the Revolution
They signed a treaty but they weren't free. Our money goes to the federal reserve and then to the banks in london.
 

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The government will NEVER directly declare war against us. But as long as they have the rebellious and free thinking among us amasing guns and preparing for some kind of violent takeover, they can continue to rob us blind like they have since the inception of this country.
It is n0t a matter of the Government declaring war on the entire population. That is an impossibility as the army would never fight against their own. What they have historically done is to isolate a scapegoat by ethnicity or religion or class etc. and declared war against that part of society. The rest of the populace is then sufficiently scared to be included in the outcast group and falls right into place. War today is not about conquering territory so much as transforming societies. Order out of Chaos.

Another trick of the ruling elite is to foment a civil war along regional lines. This also provides the sufficient chaos to make the people accept any order that is then provided.

An armed populace has historically been an important deterrent to a government turning to tyranny. Another importance of having an armed population is to deter any invasion from outside. It may seem ludicrous now but the Chinese are running military exercises focused on a US invasion.
 
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It is n0t a matter of the Government declaring war on the entire population. That is an impossibility as the army would never fight against their own. What they have historically done is to isolate a scapegoat by ethnicity or religion or class etc. and declared war against that part of society. The rest of the populace is then sufficiently scared to be included in the outcast group and falls right into place. War today is not about conquering territory so much as transforming societies. Order out of Chaos.

Another trick of the ruling elite is to foment a civil war along regional lines. This also provides the sufficient chaos to make the people accept any order that is then provided.

An armed populace has historically been an important deterrent to a government turning to tyranny. Another importance of having an armed population is to deter any invasion from outside. It may seem ludicrous now but the Chinese are running military exercises focused on a US invasion.

Why do the US and China both have pentagrams on their flags?
 

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Why do the US and China both have pentagrams on their flags?
I am well aware of that but it doesn't change anything I said. In fact it makes it that much more important for citizens of the US to be responsible for their own security. It's no accident that we ceded control of the Panama Canal to China and that they run many of our ports. God only knows what they are letting in.
 

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Let me reiterate, I'm pro-gun. The government isn't going in the front door to take away your liberty. They are sneaking in the figurative back door to destroy your health and your mind with shite food, pharmaceuticals, and propaganda. Again, the government can turn up the heat without getting involved in the gun issue. Guns will never be taken away from Americans. They knows this, and don't care. There are many ways to skin the American cat.
right. and who is the government? the rich people who own it and their lackeys. eating the rich might be the healthiest diet for society. But NOOOO, you can't do that, they're the geese that lay the golden eggs--they provide JOBS! BS. They're parasites. Microcomputer software would have happened without Bill Gates. The wealthy exploit wealth-creating technology, did not create it.
 
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I am well aware of that but it doesn't change anything I said. In fact it makes it that much more important for citizens of the US to be responsible for their own security. It's no accident that we ceded control of the Panama Canal to China and that they run many of our ports. God only knows what they are letting in.

"They" are all the same. If "they" are letting someone in it's because...

You're making the same mistake those chinese and australians who got their guns taken away made. Trusting the fox inside the henhouse is your friend and the one outside your enemy.

You think the Chinese are going to invade the continential US? Muh jade helm. More likely they'll be a huge flu pandemic next year to mark the 100th anniversary of the 1918 epidemic that killed 50 million people. You've seen the movies. The troops come in AFTER. Martial law comes in after

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/bill-gates-thinks-infectious-disease-050300717.html
 
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