DHT, not T, likely the "active" androgen in heart and brain

[Drareg]

View: https://youtu.be/ictH1rSOg5w


Dr Rand prescribes aromatase inhibitors with TRT, one of the few doctors I see on the internet who speaks openly of the dangers of high e2. I tried trt twice myself and got terrible results because they left the e2 high. Dr Rand has seen over 10,000 patients and in his experience men feel better with e2 between 15 and 20pg.

His trt regimen is 200mg testosterone per week (IM) + 1mg anastrozole or 25mg exemestane EOD.

For me he is the example of the serenity that Ray Peat talks about that occurs when we have high dht and low E2. I've watched dozens of Dr Rand's videos and his responses on blogs, the guy is a gentleman.

@hidut from your research, what are the optimal DHT levels for men?

What age is this guy? I seen his videos before, he looks to be in good health for a doctor.
Forget the question, I just seen another user mention he is in his late 60’s, goes to show, if he had color in his hair he would get away with looking like he is in his 40’s.

 

[edoos]

Interesting study, done on baboons (so should have good relevance for humans), demonstrating that the cardiovascular system (CVS) exclusively accumulates and recognizes (at the receptor level) DHT, instead of testosterone (T). In fact, the androgen receptor in CVS is so structurally different it apparently cannot even bind T. Recent studies with ALS patients suggest the same may be true in humans, not only in the CVS but in the nervous system as well. Namely, ALS patients tend to have high (circulating) T but lower DHT levels, especially in their brains. The hypothesis for a unique role of DHT in tissues is further corroborated by animal ALS studies demonstrating that administration of DHT is therapeutic, while multiple studies with T have produced null or negative effects. Aside from suggesting once again that DHT, instead of T, is the true tissue-active androgen in humans (and most animals) it also suggests that administration of 5-AR drugs such as finasteride / dutasteride may play a direct causative role in CVD and lethal neurodegenerative conditions such as ALS. Such ALS link has already been established for statins, and considering statins' decimating effects on DHT levels, the risks from finasteride / dutasteride use are likely to be much higher.

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"...This study, along with our previous studies (McGill et al., 1980; McGill and Sheridan, 1981; Sheridan et al., 19811, allows us to compare the in vivo nuclear uptake and retention of 3H-androgen in the cardiovascular system after the injection of 3H-testosterone or 3HDHT. This comparison, along with our biochemical data and the data published in the literature, has led us to two main conclusions to be discussed in detail below. First, we interpret the aggregate data to indicate that the main androgen acting on the cardiovascular system of the baboon is circulating DHT. Second, we believe that the androgen receptor in the baboon cardiovascular system is a physically different androgen receptor from that found in the kidney of a number of species and from the androgen receptor found in certain areas of the developing rat brain."

"...In summary, after comparing the uptake and retention and metabolism of 3H-steroid in the cardiovascular system of baboons following the injection of 3H-testosterone in the present study and 3H-DHT in previous studies (McGill et al., 1980; McGill and Sheridan, 1981; Sheridan et al., 1981), we interpret the data to suggest that the physiological important androgen for the cardiovascular system is circulating DHT, not testosterone, even though there is approximately ten times more circulating testosterone than DHT. In addition, in comparing our autoradiographic data, indicative of in vivo nuclear uptake and retention of 3H-androgens, with the published biochemical data dealing with the in vitro binding characteristics of cytosolic receptor, we interpret the discrepancy between in vivo nuclear uptake and retention of unmetabolized testosterone in the kidney and lack of in vivo nuclear uptake and retention of unmetabolized testosterone (DHT is accumulated) in the myocardium to be indicative of separate receptors for testosterone and DHT."

Interesting study, but haven’t seen lot of ppl of fin or dut reporting ALS. Did you heard about anectode on this?

 

[Gûs80]

Que idade tem esse cara? Já vi seus vídeos antes, ele parece estar bem de saúde para ser médico.
Esqueça a pergunta, acabei de ver outro usuário mencionar que está com quase 60 anos, vai mostrar, se ele tivesse cor no cabelo, ele iria se safar parecendo que está na casa dos 40.

? Low e2 > increase dht = joviality?