Dedicated Thyroid Vs. Synthroid)

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Ray has written about the benefits of dessicated thyroid and the dangers of pure T4.

Hi Haidut,

Thanks for posting this. I am trying to convince my mom to switch to dedicated thyroid aftr 40 years of Synthroid and 5 years of Levythyroxine (Do you know the difference between these 2 drugs?)
She believes they essentially killed her thyroid during the testing of it under the swaying machine. She has spent the last 25 years of her life going to docs to try to solve her 'mystery illness'. I strongly suspect she is really suffering from low level hypothyroidism. Her symptoms are:

1. Retinal tear, which caused legal blindness
2. Worsening Deafness
3. Low body temp
4. Insomnia
5. Waking up to pee at night
6. IBS, poor bowel control
7. Terrible dizziness, weakness, and imbalance
8. Neuropathy...numbness, tingling
9. Dementia
10. Mild heart attack
11. Tempural arteritis
12. Etc (can't remember the rest)

She is convinced most her symptoms are due to a car accident 25 years ago where she was rear-ended while looking behind her. Has to do with her c-spine. Slowly I've been putting the pieces of the puzzle together that her illnesses are thyroid related. But she refuses to listen to me, and I know this is her growing demented mind talking.

As a side note, when you look at her history with modern medicine and all the tests, surgeries, and drugs they've done to her it's clear she would probably be a much healthier and happier person had she never gone to them. It's definitely been the domino affect for her for 50 years...each of their interventions making her worse. She has been admitted to the hospital a few times in recent years for just a couple days, and each time her mental state (from the drugs) is clearly worse. I keep telling her to please stop going to the ER, and definitely refuse to be admitted!

Could she try the desiccated thyroid while still on Synthroid, or is it important to work with a specialist doing this? I know of an internist who takes Medicare and prescribes Armour (I believe). But then again, I'm hating Big Med, and I don't want to throw her to the wolves again.

Thanks for your help!
 

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Hi Haidut,

Thanks for posting this. I am trying to convince my mom to switch to dedicated thyroid aftr 40 years of Synthroid and 5 years of Levythyroxine (Do you know the difference between these 2 drugs?)
She believes they essentially killed her thyroid during the testing of it under the swaying machine. She has spent the last 25 years of her life going to docs to try to solve her 'mystery illness'. I strongly suspect she is really suffering from low level hypothyroidism. Her symptoms are:

1. Retinal tear, which caused legal blindness
2. Worsening Deafness
3. Low body temp
4. Insomnia
5. Waking up to pee at night
6. IBS, poor bowel control
7. Terrible dizziness, weakness, and imbalance
8. Neuropathy...numbness, tingling
9. Dementia
10. Mild heart attack
11. Tempural arteritis
12. Etc (can't remember the rest)

She is convinced most her symptoms are due to a car accident 25 years ago where she was rear-ended while looking behind her. Has to do with her c-spine. Slowly I've been putting the pieces of the puzzle together that her illnesses are thyroid related. But she refuses to listen to me, and I know this is her growing demented mind talking.

As a side note, when you look at her history with modern medicine and all the tests, surgeries, and drugs they've done to her it's clear she would probably be a much healthier and happier person had she never gone to them. It's definitely been the domino affect for her for 50 years...each of their interventions making her worse. She has been admitted to the hospital a few times in recent years for just a couple days, and each time her mental state (from the drugs) is clearly worse. I keep telling her to please stop going to the ER, and definitely refuse to be admitted!

Could she try the desiccated thyroid while still on Synthroid, or is it important to work with a specialist doing this? I know of an internist who takes Medicare and prescribes Armour (I believe). But then again, I'm hating Big Med, and I don't want to throw her to the wolves again.

Thanks for your help!

Given that Synthroid is pure T4 I would not mix it with an NDT like TyroMax. If you can find a pure T3 like Tiromel then it can be combined with Synthroid. Combining with TyroMax will gives her too much T4, which she already has and it probably keeps her from recovering. All of the symptoms you list can be from hypothyroidism but can also be caused by neurological damage from the accident that is manifesting now. If an MRI has been done and ruled out trauma then I would focus on thyroid. Something as simple as niacinamide can sometimes be even more beneficial for brain and metabolism than Synthroid. If you do end up buying TyroMax, I would use it on its own and not with Synthroid.
 
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Given that Synthroid is pure T4 I would not mix it with an NDT like TyroMax. If you can find a pure T3 like Tiromel then it can be combined with Synthroid. Combining with TyroMax will gives her too much T4, which she already has and it probably keeps her from recovering. All of the symptoms you list can be from hypothyroidism but can also be caused by neurological damage from the accident that is manifesting now. If an MRI has been done and ruled out trauma then I would focus on thyroid. Something as simple as niacinamide can sometimes be even more beneficial for brain and metabolism than Synthroid. If you do end up buying TyroMax, I would use it on its own and not with Synthroid.

Thanks Haidut! I will be seeing her today and will share this with her. Yes, she has had every test in the book (some repetetively) and they basically haven't seen any evidence of trauma.

Because she has become her own expert (right or wrong) I need to give her a strong argument for NDT. Can you tell me what your profession is?

Also, thanks for the tip on niacinamide. I just started using this myself due to ravages on my poor brain from cortisol, and many other things...some which I'm not sure of. (Hopefully we can talk about this on a later post). So I will bring some along to give her.

Have a nice day! :joyful:
 

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Thanks Haidut! I will be seeing her today and will share this with her. Yes, she has had every test in the book (some repetetively) and they basically haven't seen any evidence of trauma.

Because she has become her own expert (right or wrong) I need to give her a strong argument for NDT. Can you tell me what your profession is?

Also, thanks for the tip on niacinamide. I just started using this myself due to ravages on my poor brain from cortisol, and many other things...some which I'm not sure of. (Hopefully we can talk about this on a later post). So I will bring some along to give her.

Have a nice day! :joyful:

My profession is in IT. This is just a hobby which, I have to admit, I enjoy a lot more than my day job.
 
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Wow...I guessed you were a scientist or researcher. You missed your calling...or did you???;););)
Thanks again for your help!
 

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Wow...I guessed you were a scientist or researcher. You missed your calling...or did you???;););)
Thanks again for your help!

I almost went to medical school but I made the wise choice not to since I realized how dogmatic and enslaving that profession is. Doctors have the highest suicide rate of any profession, and it is for a good reason. It must be quite depressing to have tons of loans that you will be repaying for 20-30 years, and practice something daily that most practitioners know at best is not helping and at worst is killing more than doing nothing at all.
Long time ago I worked in a biochemical group as a bioinformatics specialist. My colleagues were very bright biochemists and they were all unanimous that whatever my talents are, they are much more likely to get crushed if I choose to make a career out of them than if I chose to pursue them as a hobby. Mots of them worked at NCBI at some point in their lives and they hated everything about that environment and the "science" that gets pushed there. If it is career/business then nothing good can come out of it since all official professions/industries are highly controlled and corrupt.
 
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I almost went to medical school but I made the wise choice not to since I realized how dogmatic and enslaving that profession is. Doctors have the highest suicide rate of any profession, and it is for a good reason. It must be quite depressing to have tons of loans that you will be repaying for 20-30 years, and practice something daily that most practitioners know at best is not helping and at worst is killing more than doing nothing at all.
Long time ago I worked in a biochemical group as a bioinformatics specialist. My colleagues were very bright biochemists and they were all unanimous that whatever my talents are, they are much more likely to get crushed if I choose to make a career out of them than if I chose to pursue them as a hobby. Mots of them worked at NCBI at some point in their lives and they hated everything about that environment and the "science" that gets pushed there. If it is career/business then nothing good can come out of it since all official professions/industries are highly controlled and corrupt.

Very interesting and thought provoking.
 

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