Covid-19: Is Any Country Actually Doing Science?

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Autopsy Findings and Venous Thromboembolism in Patients With COVID-19: A Prospective Cohort Study

This study describes the results of the first 12 post-mortem examinations. In total the researchers have done 190 autopsies so far.
During autopsy, all cases except for case 6 presented with preexisting heart disease, including high-grade coronary artery sclerosis (7 of 12); myocardial scarring, indicating ischemic heart disease (6 of 12); and congestive cardiomyopathy. Mean heart weight was 503 g (median, 513 g). In addition to this finding, the most common accompanying diseases were pulmonary emphysema (6 of 12) and ischemic enteritis (3 of 12).

There was a a press conference yesterday (in German). They advise low dose anticoagulant treatment, but mention that more studies are necessary.

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@Giraffe So they are suggesting COVID causes thrombosis. News outlets frame it the same way.

1 second of google:
Deep vein thrombosis during prolonged mechanical ventilation despite prophylaxis. - PubMed - NCBI
"The occurrence of DVT [Deep Vein Thrombosis] is common among patients requiring prolonged mechanical ventilation in the intensive care unit setting despite the use of prophylaxis measures."

Venous thromboembolism in the ICU: main characteristics, diagnosis and thromboprophylaxis

Pulmonary embolism in the mechanically ventilated critically ill patient
 
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@Giraffe So they are suggesting COVID causes thrombosis. News outlets frame it the same way.

1 second of google:

Deep vein thrombosis during prolonged mechanical ventilation despite prophylaxis. - PubMed - NCBI

"The occurrence of DVT [Deep Vein Thrombosis] is common among patients requiring prolonged mechanical ventilation in the intensive care unit setting despite the use of prophylaxis measures."

Venous thromboembolism in the ICU: main characteristics, diagnosis and thromboprophylaxis

Pulmonary embolism in the mechanically ventilated critically ill patient
Not moving enough causes thrombosis. Lockdowns are a catastrophe.
 

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Not moving enough causes thrombosis. Lockdowns are a catastrophe.
Or...

SARS-Cov2 enables anaerobic bacteria (Prevotella, et al) to colonize the lungs disrupting homeostasis - symptoms (ARDS, septic shock, blood clots, arterial stroke) finds resonance, with key differences, in the ‘forgotten disease’ Lemierre Syndrome, caused by anaerobic bacteria enabled by Epstein Barr Virus




https://osf.io/usztn/
 

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Not moving enough causes thrombosis. Lockdowns are a catastrophe.

If that's not an evil plan, I don't know what is. Keep old people from moving by locking them up developing thrombosis, keep herd immunity from developing by locking young and healthy people up, induce stress from fear by media, more stress from inhibited breathing through masks, fraudulent PCR tests, ICU shock treatment with unnecessary high doses of immunosupressive drugs, mechanical ventilation, pulmonary embolism, death, fraudulent death certificates, keep the panic going.

...evil, but thankfully pretty garbage and full of exposable holes. Is this really the best Billy Boy came up with while reading and reading for 10 hours a day :rolleyes:? Makes me think maybe this whole thing is supposed to get exposed.
 
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If that's not an evil plan, I don't know what is. Keep old people from moving by locking them up developing thrombosis, keep herd immunity from developing by locking young and healthy people up, induce stress from fear by media, more stress from inhibited breathing through masks, fraudulent PCR tests, ICU shock treatment with unnecessary high doses of immunosupressive drugs, mechanical ventilation, pulmonary embolism, death, fraudulent death certificates, keep the panic going.

...evil, but thankfully pretty garbage and full of exposable holes. Is this really the best Billy Boy came up with while reading and reading for 10 hours a day :rolleyes:? Makes me think maybe this whole thing is supposed to get exposed.
I keep praying for that. But then it doesn't happen. NYC major is all in with the Gates WEF plan.
https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1G0X000006O6EHUA0?tab=publications
They are going to start with this quickie vac to start:
US Military Scientists Hope To Have Coronavirus Therapeutic By Summer
Last only one month. Then the Moderna (that's the one with the screaming forward-looking stock chart) RNA as the mandatory.
Inovio probably too.
 

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I think the event as a whole has been kind of a gauge as to public trust in health officials. I see all types: people who think the measures are stupid, and the other extreme: those who are offended by people who don't follow to a T.
 
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Here is an example of lousy science coming from Germany. One of the authors is Prof. Christian Drosten. He is the one the that counsels the German government.

The study aimed at finding out if children are as infectious as adults. The data suggest that they are not. In fact in most cases children get infected by adults and not the other way round, but Prof. Drosten - who in my opinion has lost all credibility long ago - claimed that kids are as infectious as adults, and therefore schools should remain closed.

Several scientists from different countries criticized that his conclusion contradicts the data. Some also criticize that the cohort was not representative.

Is SARS-CoV-2 viral load lower in young children than adults? Jones et al provide evidence that it is (in spite of their claims to the contrary).

"Essentially their inappropriate statistical analysis meant that, in spite of initially finding a statistically significant difference between subgroups, they made it disappear by doing so many additional and uninteresting comparisons."

The following graph was created by Prof. David Spiegelhalter (a British statistician).

viral load age groups.GIF
 

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Drosten is following the protocol, page 13 point 2.

Corona Strategy of the Ministry of Interior. Corona-Strategie des Innenministeriums: Wer Gefahr abwenden will, muss sie kennen

Quote: "To achieve the desired shock reaction":
1) Create "primal fear of suffocation"
2) Emphasize children: "When a child infects it's parent and sees them die an agonizing death and they feel responsible for it because they didn't wash their hands after playing, that's the most terrible thing a child can experience".
3) Emphasize "The chance of relapse and chronic illness even after recovery will be like a sword of damocles over their heads"
 
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Drosten is following the protocol, page 13 point 2.

Corona Strategy of the Ministry of Interior. Corona-Strategie des Innenministeriums: Wer Gefahr abwenden will, muss sie kennen

Quote: "To achieve the desired shock reaction":
1) Create "primal fear of suffocation"
2) Emphasize children: "When a child infects it's parent and sees them die an agonizing death and they feel responsible for it because they didn't wash their hands after playing, that's the most terrible thing a child can experience".
3) Emphasize "The chance of relapse and chronic illness even after recovery will be like a sword of damocles over their heads"
They admit that the paper is authentic (you can now download it from the website of the ministry), but they say they do not know who has written it: there has not been a (written) order. Can this become any more ridiculous?

Innenministerium hat keine Ahnung wer im CORONA-Krisen-Papier was geschrieben hat.
 
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Another study from Germany. This one is looking at T-cell response.

SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T-cell recognition

"Notably, we detected SARS-CoV-2 cross-reactive T cells in 81% of unexposed individuals. To determine if these T-cells indeed mediate heterologous immunity and whether this explains the relatively small proportion of severely ill or, even in general, infected patients during this pandemic, a dedicated study using e.g. a matched case control, or retrospective cohort design applying our cross-reactive SARS-CoV-2 T-cell epitopes would be required. Our observation that intensity of T-cell responses and recognition rate of T-cell epitopes was significantly higher in convalescents compared to unexposed individuals suggests that not only expansion, but also a spread of SARS-CoV-2T-cell response diversity occurs upon active infection.

At present, determination of immunity to SARS-CoV-2 relies on the detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibody responses. However, despite the high sensitivity reported for several assays there is still a substantial percentage of patients with negative or borderline antibody responses and thus unclear immunity status after SARS-CoV-2 infection. Our SARS-CoV-2-specific T-cell epitopes, which are not recognized by T cells of unexposed donors, allowed for detection of specific T-cell responses even in donors without antibody responses, thereby providing evidence for T-cell immunity upon infection."
 

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There was a Swedish study already last summer where they showed that something like 30% of people donating blood in Stockholm had Covid-19 specific T-cell immunity, about twice as many as had antibodies. Odd that its taken this long to do any follow-up on that.
 

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