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CortiNon - Liquid Progesterone/DHEA Mix

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Dec 10, 2017.

  1. bzmazu

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    I think I will try CortiNon in the am and Progestene/Androsterone in pm...small doses.
     
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    Just wondering how progesterone in this dosage as 5mg would affect a man? Would it lower testosterone or help testosterone by lowering cortisol etc? what's your thoughts? I'm a bit confused since some guys reporting different. What's the pros and cons for taking the as a man? I want you to sell it to me hahaha
     
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    In lower doses it should oppose estrogen and cortisol without negatively affecting androgens much. In fact, progesterone stimulated StAR and 3b-HSD activity, which means it may even raise T levels when used in low doses (<10mg).
    Stimulatory effect of LH, PGE2 and progesterone on StAR protein, cytochrome P450 cholesterol side chain cleavage and 3beta hydroxysteroid dehydroge... - PubMed - NCBI
     
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    Thanks a lot really appreciate the quick answer and link to study. KING!
     
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    How would this product play out in comparison to panesterone when applied to the gonads?

    Any theories?
     
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    Human in-vitro studies show that pregnenolone is a preferred substrate for T synthesis compared to progesterone, but both can be used as raw material. So, the gonads will use whatever you give them. I have not gotten much feedback on using CortiNon that way though, so can't say much for now.
     
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    Happily been doing Pansterone/Androsterone/Progestene/Calcirol, 1 drop each in the evening....recently added 1 shot (drop) CortiNon/Calcirol each in the mornings (the icing on the cake?)...Man, I can't imagine feeling any better than this.....thanks Mr Giorgi!
     
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    How long have you been doing this?
     
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    The pm regimen for months...the am one for about 12 days
     
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    Back in the day, this was my favorite steroid combination. The progesterone counteracted the estrogenic and anxiogenic effects of the DHEA, while the DHEA added more OOMPH (androgenicity) to the progesterone.
     
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    Hmm. This is why I brought up the gonads application aspect. Panesterone on the gonads always gives me estrogenic side effects. Surely this would be less estrogenic. DHEA is like a dumb young male with lots of spunk, but spraying everywhere uncrollably. Progesterone is the sensible one who can help out.

    But maybe panesterone + progestene (on the gonads) would be even better.
     
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    what would estroban be ? the children ?
     
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    Have you had any complaints about the current bottle you are using for CortiNon? I have to squeeze the bottle hard for a drop to come out, and although I get lucky at times with only one drop coming out, it happens frequently that multiple drops come out all at once. and fast enough where its hard to count them. I only use this sparingly, only 2 drops per application. I tried sticking the end of a toothpick in it thinking it was just clogged, but that hasn't worked.
     
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    I can tell you that in my case I use pansterone on the testes and 3x a week a few drops of Pg from you and I feel great. Drive goes up and my penis is relaxed and hangs low like he's ready. So this combo should be great. Maybe even a 3 some product one day..lol. Pg, DHEA and Pregnenolone....
     
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    I have also had a similar ptoblem

    I transferred one bottle to a gorilla vape bottle I bought myself
     
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    Some of the steroid can precipitate if it has been transported in very cold weather, which is what s happening right now with USPS pretty much anywhere in the USA. Just warming it up for 10sec in the microwave and shaking should resolve this issue for good.
     
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    I thought about having a combination of the 3 but it will provide a fix ratio of the 3 steroids and the same ratio does not work for everybody. Even a 2-steroid optimal ratio is hard to nail but at least there are some studies and suggestions from peat to work with. So, for now I think a Pansterone + Progestene, or CortiNon + StressNon combo would be the most reasonable approach as you can vary the ratio and experiment until you find what works best.
     
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    I plan on doing just that!!! +)) All is well in the land!
     
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    Can you elaborate a bit on the benefits (or drawbacks) you have experienced during nofap?
     
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