Corona Virus How To Treat

[David PS]

Curcumin may help with a cytokine storm.
curcumin cytokine storm - Search Results - PubMed

It can be added to your diet by cooking with turmeric. My boiled white rice is seldom white.

 

[Wagner83]

I concur. It is all about the balance of lysine and arginine. As I said above, "I think that it may be best to make sure that you get more lysine than arginine in your diet. You may find that you do not need to supplement everyday. " There is no magic ratio but a ratio of 1.1 might be a good place to start. That can be achieved with diet.

As per Ray Peat, Ray Peat Email Exchanges - Ray Peat Forum Wiki



Nitric Oxide has a "dark side". In a 2015 interview with Haidut entitled "Nitric Oxide and Methylene Blue [Generative Energy #11]" , Danny Roddy left the following time stamps:

05:00 - Ray Peat’s Nitric Oxide Interviews (link: http://bit.ly/rayinterviews)
05:45 - Mainstream views of nitric oxide
06:25 - Can be thought of as an emergency substitute for carbon dioxide to dilate blood vessels (CO2)
07:14 - Nitric oxide can influence intracellular calcium levels
07:51 - Local vs. systemic release of nitric oxide
08:50 - Nitric oxide and lactate stimulate angiogenesis
09:20 - Nitric oxide irreversibly binds cytochrome c oxidase
10:28 - Infections acutely increase nitric oxide
11:05 - Good thyroid function for low levels of nitric oxide
11:30 - Caffeine, niacinamide, zinc, and magnesium can help lower nitric oxide
12:00 - The amino acid lysine can lower nitric oxide
12:27 - Health problems associated with nitric oxide (and testing it)
13:23 - Nitric oxide theory of aging (link: http://bit.ly/1WrgZuS)
14:19 - Chronic disease is associated with elevated levels of nitric oxide and contributes to the problem
15:39 - Activating cytochrome c oxidase to lower nitric oxide
16:10 - Red light and methylene blue lower nitric oxide
16:55 - Nitric oxide can lower the core temperature

In summary:

This is related :
Warning To People Taking Lysine

 

[managing]

I am writing a set of instructions for treatment dos and don'ts if I get coronavirus and have to be treated by doctors.

It is very, very clear that 100% oxygen should not be given, but, rather, it should be mixed with CO2. This very interesting study says 5%:

Imaging Study Reveals How Pure Oxygen Harms The Brain

I've read elsewhere 8%. Anybody have an opinion?

Do hospitals even have CO2 on hand (US)?

 

[ecstatichamster]

do you bag breathing when you are short of breath and it will be fine. Try to not cough. It doesn’t matter if a cough is supposedly productive or not, it’s very bad to cough. If you can stop from coughing, you’ll get better and won’t have that shortness of breath.

 

[ecstatichamster]

I am writing a set of instructions for treatment dos and don'ts if I get coronavirus and have to be treated by doctors.

It is very, very clear that 100% oxygen should not be given, but, rather, it should be mixed with CO2. This very interesting study says 5%:

Imaging Study Reveals How Pure Oxygen Harms The Brain

I've read elsewhere 8%. Anybody have an opinion?

Do hospitals even have CO2 on hand (US)?

I don’t think so. Most people are much better off staying out of the hospital. Going into the hospital to me is a death sentence. But of course, everyone has to wear their own beliefs in their own competence in self treatment.

 

[Blossom]

Most people are much better off staying out of the hospital. p

Definitely

 

[Pompadour]

I wrote earlier about low dose naltrexon. But this testimonial speaks against it...like LDN can lower immunity
>LDN, Pneumonia and Bangkok….
Here two kids got pneumonia while taking LDN

 

[Sucrates]

I am writing a set of instructions for treatment dos and don'ts if I get coronavirus and have to be treated by doctors.

Do doctors follow patients instructions in your country?

 

[managing]

Do doctors follow patients instructions in your country?

They can be forced to. I've done it before. I've only been escorted out of a hospital by police once but it was only a few hours before they invited me back and apologized. Not clear to me whether I can compose a letter in such a way as to have that effect if am not conscious, but I'll try.

 

[managing]

I don’t think so. Most people are much better off staying out of the hospital. Going into the hospital to me is a death sentence. But of course, everyone has to wear their own beliefs in their own competence in self treatment.

I agree with this. Just trying to plan for worst. Also trying to organize my thoughts in case I have to intervene on behalf of a loved one.

 

[S.Seneff]

Predicting COVID-19 malignant progression with AI techniques
Xiang Bai, Cong Fang, Yu Zhou, Song Bai, Zaiyi Liu, Qianlan Chen, Yongchao Xu, Tian Xia, Shi Gong, Xudong Xie, Dejia Song, Ronghui Du, Chunhua Zhou, Chengyang Chen, Dianer Nie, Dandan Tu, Changzheng Zhang, Xiaowu Liu, Lixin Qin, Weiwei Chen
doi: Predicting COVID-19 malignant progression with AI techniques
This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

Background: The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) has become a worldwide pandemic since mid-December 2019, which greatly challenge public medical systems. With limited medical resources, it is a natural strategy, while adopted, to access the severity of patients then determine the treatment priority. However, our work observes the fact that the condition of many mild outpatients quickly worsens in a short time, i.e. deteriorate into severe/critical cases. Hence, it has been crucial to early identify those cases and give timely treatment for optimizing treatment strategy and reducing mortality. This study aims to establish an AI model to predict mild patients with potential malignant progression. Methods: A total of 133 consecutively mild COVID-19 patients at admission who was hospitalized in Wuhan Pulmonary Hospital from January 3 to February 13, 2020, were selected in this retrospective IRB-approved study. All mild patients at admission were categorized into groups with or without malignant progression. The clinical and laboratory data at admission, the first CT, and the follow-up CT at severe/critical stage of the two groups were compared with Chi-square test, Fisher's exact test, and t test. Both traditional logistic regression and deep learning-based methods were used to build the prediction models. The area under ROC curve (AUC) was used to evaluate the models. Results: The deep learning-based method significantly outperformed logistic regression (AUC 0.954 vs. 0.893). The deep learning-based method achieved a prediction AUC of 0.938 by combining the clinical data and the CT data, significantly outperforming its counterpart trained with clinical data only by 0.141. By further considering the temporal information of the CT sequence, our model achieved the best AUC of 0.954. The proposed model can be effectively used for finding out the mild patients who are easy to deteriorate into severe/critical cases, so that such patients get timely treatments while alleviating the limitations of medical resources.

 

[Goobz]

Yeah, it has arginine in it, but what does it matter?
For example you can eat foods high in arginine and then take some MB to lower the nitric oxide.
I can see the anti-nitric oxide effects of Lysine and MB even with grams or arginine supplemented.
I am sure this will be different on everyone depending on so many other factors.

It may only matter in order to prevent an arginine deficiency, if taking a lot of lysine. I’m just speculating here, partly based off this thread below...

This is related :
Warning To People Taking Lysine

Thanks that was the thread I was referring to earlier.

 

[David PS]

Echinacea—A Source of Potent Antivirals for Respiratory Virus Infections

 

[Layne]

The below linked article (which I consider a must read if you're not familiar with the topic) makes it appear wearing masks could soon be mandatory across much of the world. -- The article gives a good review of why wearing masks were shunned in the beginning, and just to warn you, the details may be upsetting to read, just as they were for me. -- It's also looking like that recommended 6 feet of social distancing is well short of the 25-30 feet the virus can actually travel. Another reason to consider wearing a mask.

In other articles I just read this morning (that I feel connect well with the mask article), some health authorities now believe as many as 1/4 of people infected with the coronavirus are totally asymptomatic, while others infected are presenting with only very mild symptoms, and may not even know they have it. Also, people who have totally recovered from the virus can still be infectious for many days afterwards. -- All good reasons to always wear a mask.

Asia may have been right about coronavirus and face masks, and the rest of the world is coming around
Analysis by James Griffiths, CNN
Updated 12:21 PM ET, Wed April 1, 2020

"Hong Kong (CNN) In the coming weeks, if they have not already, your government is likely to begin advising you to wear a face mask to protect against coronavirus.'

For those living in Asia, such announcements will be a vindication of a tactic that has been adopted across much of the region since the beginning of the crisis and appears to have been borne out by lower rates of infection and faster containment of outbreaks."
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Just discovered another article title on the Politico website, but have not yet read it:

Mask mystery: Why are U.S. officials dismissive of protective covering?
Other nations recommend wearing masks to avoid coronavirus, but the Trump administration has not seen a benefit.

 

[Amazoniac]

Rodent, here's one more option in case it hasn't been mentioned yet:

- Metronidazole a Potential Novel Addition to the COVID-19 Treatment Regimen

Get well soon!

 

[LucyL]

This virus, if it is the one I suffer from, feels very aggressive. You could spend a decent few days thinking you got the better of it and all of a sudden during one night breathing issues worsen a lot and your body feels under massive attack. It's almost as if it was lurking and when it senses an opportunity it seizes it full force. I may end up in hospital if things keep going this way, which sucks because they don't have treatments.

For the record : under 30, no comorbidities.

"one night" - interesting, because of all Peat says about stress increasing at night etc. Could you try sleeping under some bright red lights all night? Would be interesting to see if that could counter the nighttime worsening.

 

[LucyL]

I will ask again, I see people keep posting about Vitamin C, how the hospitals do IVs vit C.
Since I do not have access to IV vit C how would the regular folk approach vitamin C? What is the oral dose comparable to the IV dose? Or is there any comparison at all? I assume the IV one would not cause gut pain or diarrhea? I am not concerned from higher stomach acid, that can be buffered, while gut pain and diarrhea how can that be buffered or countered?

The thing to be achieved is the high blood level of C since it has a very short half life. Bill Sardi says it can be done by consuming 3000 mg every 4 hours. I do this with a combination of regular and extended time release formulations (especially important overnight).

It Kills Cancer - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Linus Pauling, Call Your Office - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com
Modern Medicine’s Aversion to Vitamin C Therapy Results in a Half-Million Needless Deaths From Sepsis in U.S. Hospitals Every Year - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

In the meantime, particularly if you are a senior American with heart, lung or malignant disease, you want to supplement with oral vitamin C. It is true vitamin C is rapidly excreted and therefore supplementation throughout the day is needed. A dynamic model of the need for vitamin C based upon severity of disease has been published by Dr. Steve Hickey. Dr. Steve Hickey has shown that repeated daily use of vitamin C by healthy adults, 500 mg vitamin C every 6-hours, produces blood concentrations that approach intravenous therapy. More vitamin C would be needed (up to 3000 mg every 4 hours) for individuals who are ill or have infection. A discussion of the dynamic need for vitamin C can be read online.
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I've done this amount for long stretches, with no gut issues, but maybe a person would want to work up to it. Peat doesn't like most of the Vit C on the market, but like anything, you have to decide for yourself if you think short term treatment for an acute disorder is worth perceived risks.

 

[Elderflower j58]

• Gargle with Listerine ® - really. Listerine ® was originally developed as a cleaner for doctors offices. The essential oils have potent antiviral activity, including against the flu and other viruses that have an ‘envelope’ around them. Coronavirus has an envelope around it and those are the viruses that Listerine ® shows benefit against. 30 seconds exposure reduced influenza and other enveloped viruses by 95-100%.
  The antiviral spectrum of Listerine antiseptic - ScienceDirect
• Eat lots of colorful fruits and vegetables. Fruits and vegetables contain quercitin which has antiviral properties, including against coronavirus.

 

[diane78]

Can anyone advise a dosage for Lapodin to combat and protect someone from the corona virus?

 

[ilhanxx]

Do you like Schweppes?
Schweppes ronkc water-quinine