Copper Excess And No Potassium

EIRE24

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Chicken liver has vitamin A without much zinc or copper, so you could try having both Chicken liver and oysters. You don't need much of each.
Well I've got acne so I'm thinking I may need more vitamin A and zinc than most people? Chicken liver is higher in iron than lambs I thought?
 

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Thanks @Giraffe. Do you think it would be a bad idea to eat oysters daily to make sure I have plenty of zinc for acne? I know its also very high in iron the same as liver which has vitamin A so I am not sure what to do about both of these foods that are super for acne but also contain lots and lots of iron
I think if I were you, I would have my taste buds decide, and I would try to minimize iron and phosphate absorption.
 

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I think if I were you, I would have my taste buds decide, and I would try to minimize iron and phosphate absorption.
So drinking coffee with both liver and oysters? I don't like oysters at all, I actually hold my nose while eating them but they are too nutritious to pass off, I would say the same for liver but I like the taste of liver.
 

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Better to eat the whole lamb to get the mammal ratios (that is muscle meat and organs and bones in proportion).
Yeah, but it's such a hassle when the bone shards get stuck, and I have real trouble downing the eyeballs. :)

So drinking coffee with both liver and oysters? I don't like oysters at all, I actually hold my nose while eating them but they are too nutritious to pass off, I would say the same for liver but I like the taste of liver.
How are you eating them? Have you googled for recipes to make them delicious? I have eaten them straight fresh and raw a long time ago, but nowadays I favour eating them in a chowder.
I think Peat has recommended ~1 dozen a week.
I'm not dealing with acne, but I suspect low zinc. I'm not that keen on supplementing, but I think I've been getting some benefit from just 20mg supplemented once a week - maybe there's more to be gained from increasing to twice a week.
 

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You can think of copper like a sword...very useful tool and killing device if wielded properly but leave a ton of them just laying around and you will just stab yourself lol. Also yea you need proper amount of zinc manganese etc but those alone wont solve issue. Dr wilson is very wrong on that. Sometimes your body just needs less minerals and to be allowed to dump excess and deal with infections/toxins ( which affect your ability to 'wield' copper ). I believe the noble metals is a big part of the puzzle still researching this subject...but hint: I think we may be lacking in gold/platinum iridium rhodium etc.
 

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Yeah, but it's such a hassle when the bone shards get stuck, and I have real trouble downing the eyeballs. :)


How are you eating them? Have you googled for recipes to make them delicious? I have eaten them straight fresh and raw a long time ago, but nowadays I favour eating them in a chowder.
I think Peat has recommended ~1 dozen a week.
I'm not dealing with acne, but I suspect low zinc. I'm not that keen on supplementing, but I think I've been getting some benefit from just 20mg supplemented once a week - maybe there's more to be gained from increasing to twice a week.
No, I don't like oysters full stop. Texture and taste...even smell. I put up with it though and eat them for the nutrition. They are a powerhouse of nutrients. I will try a dozen a week then and keep it consistent for at least a month and see how I'm going. I'll drink coffee with them to chelate the iron. I don't like supplementing all that much to be honest I much rather get it from food.
 
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Just had a complex hair mineral test done. Very high copper - probably due to eating weekly liver. I've cut back on both liver, dark chocolate and avocados and upped my intake of vitamin C as I believe vitamin C helps chelate copper.
The other oddity is that my potassium was virtually zero - I had been eating sweet potatoes daily with huge amounts of vegetables, so it seems I have a problem assimilating potassium. I have increased my magnesium as I believe magnesium helps balance all minerals including potassium.
Would appreciate some commentary from anyone who has some experience with mineral balance. I don't know how one can eat the RDA of potassium in food as it just doesn't seem possible unless you are eating pockets of sweet potatoes daily.

Findlay did you do your test with an Advisor? Did he or she not explain your test results in full? I specialise in this area and it is my job to educate my clients about their hair test results, otherwise they can do more harm with it than good. I have seen people who look at their minerals and go right take more of the low and avoid the highs. It does not work like this at all.

Couple of things to look for on your hair test in regard to high copper. Just because it is high does not mean you have too much of it if anything what you have is BIO-unavailable copper. it is there but not available.
You need to look at the RATIOS and other minerals.
1. High Copper if you are a slow oxidizer and it sounds like you are with a very low potassium
2. Your liver function is compromised at the Phase 2 and it goes hand in hand with adrenal insufficiency IF your Na/K ( Sodium/Potassium) ratio is less than 2.
Ideally it should be 2.5. This is the most important ratio on any hair test. It is called the vitality ratio. If this one is out everything else is wobbly, affected and cellular metabolism is greatly affected.
3. Low potassium could mean a number of things & is related to aldosterone at the CELLULAR level on the hair test ( I have a 15,000 hours in biochemistry = PhD but like to simplify complexity)
I work with clients who have multiple symptoms and the ones that are typically tired and wired, with sleep issues, crave chocolate and or peanut butter have high copper. So continue eating liver that is not the problem. As it took me 4 solid years to learn how to properly analyse a hair test, I see so many people walking around with their blueprint in their hands not knowing what to do with it.
So if you can post more info your exact ratio -
1. Sodium/Potassium
2. are you a slow oxidizer
3. what is your Ca/Mg ratio
3. what is your Ca/P ( calcium/phosphorous) ratio
4. the lab you did your test results.

Many of my clients have high copper for number of reasons nothing to do with the high copper foods. How I became interested in hair test was due to my own misery that no dietary principles could help. I had extremely high copper over 10 years ago years ago when I followed macrobiotics principles, consumed lots of grains, nuts/peanut butter and was low on zinc. I was tired and wired. These days I eat liver weekly, oysters twice a week and have for over and my copper still has not reached ideal levels. It is on the lower end. The faster your metabolism the more copper you need. High copper is also related to liver and methylation issues and lack of Vitamin C not because you are not consuming enough but because you are not absorbing. The reason why you are not absorbing would be another very lengthy explanation :) However it would be appropriate at this forum as it has been touched upon before. Dr Carey Reams vs Dr Peat. I can answer this in full if enough people are interested!
 
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Findlay did you do your test with an Advisor? Did he or she not explain your test results in full? I specialise in this area and it is my job to educate my clients about their hair test results, otherwise they can do more harm with it than good. I have seen people who look at their minerals and go right take more of the low and avoid the highs. It does not work like this at all.

Couple of things to look for on your hair test in regard to high copper. Just because it is high does not mean you have too much of it if anything what you have is BIO-unavailable copper. it is there but not available.
You need to look at the RATIOS and other minerals.
1. High Copper if you are a slow oxidizer and it sounds like you are with a very low potassium
2. Your liver function is compromised at the Phase 2 and it goes hand in hand with adrenal insufficiency IF your Na/K ( Sodium/Potassium) ratio is less than 2.
Ideally it should be 2.5. This is the most important ratio on any hair test. It is called the vitality ratio. If this one is out everything else is wobbly, affected and cellular metabolism is greatly affected.
3. Low potassium could mean a number of things & is related to aldosterone at the CELLULAR level on the hair test ( I have a 15,000 hours in biochemistry = PhD but like to simplify complexity)
I work with clients who have multiple symptoms and the ones that are typically tired and wired, with sleep issues, crave chocolate and or peanut butter have high copper. So continue eating liver that is not the problem. As it took me 4 solid years to learn how to properly analyse a hair test, I see so many people walking around with their blueprint in their hands not knowing what to do with it.
So if you can post more info your exact ratio -
1. Sodium/Potassium
2. are you a slow oxidizer
3. what is your Ca/Mg ratio
3. what is your Ca/P ( calcium/phosphorous) ratio
4. the lab you did your test results.

Many of my clients have high copper for number of reasons nothing to do with the high copper foods. How I became interested in hair test was due to my own misery that no dietary principles could help. I had extremely high copper over 10 years ago years ago when I followed macrobiotics principles, consumed lots of grains, nuts/peanut butter and was low on zinc. I was tired and wired. These days I eat liver weekly, oysters twice a week and have for over and my copper still has not reached ideal levels. It is on the lower end. The faster your metabolism the more copper you need. High copper is also related to liver and methylation issues and lack of Vitamin C not because you are not consuming enough but because you are not absorbing. The reason why you are not absorbing would be another very lengthy explanation :) However it would be appropriate at this forum as it has been touched upon before. Dr Carey Reams vs Dr Peat. I can answer this in full if enough people are interested!
Yes I'd be very interested to hear
 

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With addition to the comment above, there is a book that can help you interpret your hair test. It is not that straightforward, the name of the book is Hair Test Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities by Andrew Cutler
 

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Findlay did you do your test with an Advisor? Did he or she not explain your test results in full? I specialise in this area and it is my job to educate my clients about their hair test results, otherwise they can do more harm with it than good. I have seen people who look at their minerals and go right take more of the low and avoid the highs. It does not work like this at all.

Couple of things to look for on your hair test in regard to high copper. Just because it is high does not mean you have too much of it if anything what you have is BIO-unavailable copper. it is there but not available.
You need to look at the RATIOS and other minerals.
1. High Copper if you are a slow oxidizer and it sounds like you are with a very low potassium
2. Your liver function is compromised at the Phase 2 and it goes hand in hand with adrenal insufficiency IF your Na/K ( Sodium/Potassium) ratio is less than 2.
Ideally it should be 2.5. This is the most important ratio on any hair test. It is called the vitality ratio. If this one is out everything else is wobbly, affected and cellular metabolism is greatly affected.
3. Low potassium could mean a number of things & is related to aldosterone at the CELLULAR level on the hair test ( I have a 15,000 hours in biochemistry = PhD but like to simplify complexity)
I work with clients who have multiple symptoms and the ones that are typically tired and wired, with sleep issues, crave chocolate and or peanut butter have high copper. So continue eating liver that is not the problem. As it took me 4 solid years to learn how to properly analyse a hair test, I see so many people walking around with their blueprint in their hands not knowing what to do with it.
So if you can post more info your exact ratio -
1. Sodium/Potassium
2. are you a slow oxidizer
3. what is your Ca/Mg ratio
3. what is your Ca/P ( calcium/phosphorous) ratio
4. the lab you did your test results.

Many of my clients have high copper for number of reasons nothing to do with the high copper foods. How I became interested in hair test was due to my own misery that no dietary principles could help. I had extremely high copper over 10 years ago years ago when I followed macrobiotics principles, consumed lots of grains, nuts/peanut butter and was low on zinc. I was tired and wired. These days I eat liver weekly, oysters twice a week and have for over and my copper still has not reached ideal levels. It is on the lower end. The faster your metabolism the more copper you need. High copper is also related to liver and methylation issues and lack of Vitamin C not because you are not consuming enough but because you are not absorbing. The reason why you are not absorbing would be another very lengthy explanation :) However it would be appropriate at this forum as it has been touched upon before. Dr Carey Reams vs Dr Peat. I can answer this in full if enough people are interested!
 
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Very interesting! How may One contact you for consultation?

I found a really good practitioner in my area who does hair mineral analysis, biofeedback and homeopathy. She balanced out the minerals using oligos - very small trace elements to teach the body to absorb the minerals, which is what my body needed.. her website is www.holistic-homeopathy.com. She used biofeedback to verify the imbalances and help the body align the energy patterns.
 

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