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What is the "great soil scam" about?witnessed the great soil scam happen
The cover crops first of all add liquid carbon to the soil. It's called root exudates. The plants thereby feed microorganisms which in turn provide them with the nutrients the plants need. The plants can signal what they need. The farmers that practice regenerative farming or soil-building practices (whatever you want to call it) make sure that there are living roots in the ground most of the time. This prevents soil erosion, helps to prevent that nutrients are washed away and they feed the soil organisms. Soil aggregates are mostly formed around roots. (Dr. Christine Jones and Gabe Brown explain this in more detail.)They don't fertilize, they have great potatoes, they plant cover crops in the off season (probably nitrogen fixing?), and periodically they spread a little top soil or compost or whatever to a field.
The scam is about when nursery's began selling plants grown in decomposing matter which eventually kills the plant. And all potting soil or gardening soil in stores are not even soil.What is the "great soil scam" about?
The cover crops first of all add liquid carbon to the soil. It's called root exudates. The plants thereby feed microorganisms which in turn provide them with the nutrients the plants need. The plants can signal what they need. The farmers that practice regenerative farming or soil-building practices (whatever you want to call it) make sure that there are living roots in the ground most of the time. This prevents soil erosion, helps to prevent that nutrients are washed away and they feed the soil organisms. Soil aggregates are mostly formed around roots. (Dr. Christine Jones and Gabe Brown explain this in more detail.)
Finally I get it. Tbh everybody who really assumed the sort of „compost“ you refer to could long-term sustain plants has poor knowledge of plants, basic biology, farming and soil to begin with. Which is obviously why they can be scammed of sorts.The scam is about when nursery's began selling plants grown in decomposing matter which eventually kills the plant. And all potting soil or gardening soil in stores are not even soil.
I'm not an expert at all and I am still trying to comprehend Gary's knowledge and also Gabe brown I do watch some of his stuff. I've been to an Orange and avocado farm in southern california growing in Soil like gary mentions on the side of a mountain. Thriving plants big time. The whole compost mentality has gotten out of hand in my opinion after watching gary's videos. Gary even mentions how compost is important but the roots are happiest in real soil. The surface is a totally different story where there could be compost and decomposing matter for the microbes and all that it brings.
I think seasonal gardeners get away with planting directly into compost because plants can live in that...for a while. If you are planting long term crops like fruit trees then Gary's techniques seem very important. Every orchard I have ever seen the soil is sand silt and clay and that's it. Eastern washington for example there are a ton of thriving orchards in decomposing granite soil.
I need to put in some work and watch some more Gabe brown and get my thinking going more.
I still think Gary's mentality and knowledge is a very important thing to ponder on.
Yes cover crops are crucial. A potato farm in Fraser valley Canada doesn't fertilize, they grow in real soil and use cover crops in the off season. They occasionally add a little compost to the top of their soil. Very awesome potatoes from this farm.
The scam is about when nursery's began selling plants grown in decomposing matter which eventually kills the plant. And all potting soil or gardening soil in stores are not even soil.
I'm not an expert at all and I am still trying to comprehend Gary's knowledge and also Gabe brown I do watch some of his stuff. I've been to an Orange and avocado farm in southern california growing in Soil like gary mentions on the side of a mountain. Thriving plants big time. The whole compost mentality has gotten out of hand in my opinion after watching gary's videos. Gary even mentions how compost is important but the roots are happiest in real soil. The surface is a totally different story where there could be compost and decomposing matter for the microbes and all that it brings.
I think seasonal gardeners get away with planting directly into compost because plants can live in that...for a while. If you are planting long term crops like fruit trees then Gary's techniques seem very important. Every orchard I have ever seen the soil is sand silt and clay and that's it. Eastern washington for example there are a ton of thriving orchards in decomposing granite soil.
I need to put in some work and watch some more Gabe brown and get my thinking going more.
I still think Gary's mentality and knowledge is a very important thing to ponder on.
Yes cover crops are crucial. A potato farm in Fraser valley Canada doesn't fertilize, they grow in real soil and use cover crops in the off season. They occasionally add a little compost to the top of their soil. Very awesome potatoes from this farm.
Once in the Bahamas, the owner of a neem tree and other botanical food crops farm, told me that after the first hurricane and flooding {storm surge}that he experienced, he felt that the sea water would decimate his crops and poison them. When you think of sea water, you think of salt, which was used in history by countries to poison the crops/fields of other countries they were trying to conquer. However, he said that after the storm surge receded that year and the following years, his crops grew better than he had ever seen them. It seemed possible to me since sea water is replete with nutrients, and I suppose there wasn't enough salt to cause problems.I remember someone on another website swearing by diluted seawater for plant health, I think there was even a company making fertilizer with it. Some light searching shows that people do use it and there are even some studies done in a 1:30 Saltwater to Freshwater dilution.
Dang, did you wake up on a japanese flag this morning Sally. If me making fun of compost hurts your feelings then you might want to spend some time watching Gary's videos.What's up with the sensationalistic title? "Exposing the compost scam" Are we really choosing are words deliberately?
the guy literally calls wood chips "compost" so i wouldn't grant him the highest level of authority.watching Gary's videos.
Wow sensitive compost police are out today. You think a man who has been in the nursery business his entire life and actually doing an honest job for folks isn't qualified. Gary's smart guy I watched a lot of his videos he hits on compost and all the other things, takes time to see what he's all about.the guy literally calls wood chips "compost" so i wouldn't grant him the highest level of authority.
stfu -- that was stupid title and you know it.Dang, did you wake up on a japanese flag this morning Sally. If me making fun of compost hurts your feelings then you might want to spend some time watching Gary's videos.
no it's not. It's like a book title. then you read the book and realize what the compost scam is all about. Gary's a solid resource that's why I made the thread. Focusing on soil is way more important than making a pile of compost. Compost still being important though.stfu -- that was stupid title and you know it.