Coffe & Ammonia

[milkboi]

I think the fact that strong coffee (or big doses of caffeine) increase ammonia when consumed with protein is firmly established.

For me, avoiding protein in the first half of the day (when I’m sipping sweet coffee) isn’t practical.

Any tips on how to reduce ammonia or counteract this effect from caffeine?

 

[theLaw]

Any tips on how to reduce ammonia or counteract this effect from caffeine?

In my experience, this was a liver issue.

Adding 1tsp of Ceylon Cinnamon, glycine, or gelatin helped me.

Also, taking b vitamins several times per day can help liver filter properly.

 

[Daniil]

I think the fact that strong coffee (or big doses of caffeine) increase ammonia when consumed with protein is firmly established.

For me, avoiding protein in the first half of the day (when I’m sipping sweet coffee) isn’t practical.

Any tips on how to reduce ammonia or counteract this effect from caffeine?

I don't find anything on the internet about this. Maybe you have some links?

I'm curious to know the mechanism.

 

[Peatness]

I don't find anything on the internet about this. Maybe you have some links?

I'm curious to know the mechanism.

Haduit has discussed ammonia on several threads including in relation to coffee. I recall him recommending either zinc, cinnamon, or ornithine.

 

[Daniil]

Haduit has discussed ammonia on several threads including in relation to coffee. I recall him recommending either zinc, cinnamon, or ornithine.

And why not agmatine?

 

[Daniil]

This fact upsets me, because if I do not drink coffee with protein, it will increase serotonin. And I can't stand coffee without sugar. It's strange that Ray didn't say anything about it.

 

[Peatness]

And why not agmatine?

Don't Know

This fact upsets me, because if I do not drink coffee with protein, it will increase serotonin. And I can't stand coffee without sugar. It's strange that Ray didn't say anything about it.

Why do you think you need to drink coffee without sugar?

 

[Daniil]

Don't Know

Why do you think you need to drink coffee without sugar?

Carbohydrates without protein allow tryptophan to pass through the BBB and increase serotonin.

 

[Peatness]

Carbohydrates without protein allow tryptophan to pass through the BBB and increase serotonin.

I have my morning coffee with gelatin. I can't tolerate it otherwise.

Haduit has also spoken about thiamine for ammonia. Do a search

This thread has good info on protein and ammonia
RP Says Glucose Helps T4 To T3, Then Why Fructose?

Things that I know lower ammonia are:-

Thiamine
Biotin
Salt
Cinnammon
l ornithine
Potatoes keto acids
Zinc