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Agreed!She should follow Travis on patreon.
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Agreed!She should follow Travis on patreon.
I said “seems often” because of several anecdotes and general impressions from other users.You say coconut oil "seems often", and yet you cite one study that doesn't contain the word coconut even once. Just because some of the shorter SFA produce an inhibition in vitro doesn't mean that coconut fat as a whole would have any such effect. Compared to most PUFA, which have been shown to be much more potent 5-AR inhibtors, cocnut oil is probably very much pro-dht.
Butter is really easy on my digestion - coconut oil bloats me - I have tired and tried with it. It just got to the point that it just repulses me now. I use it on my hair though. I am not hypothyroid though either so- who knows?How does this disagreement between coconut oil and yourself manifest itself?
have u tried gheeButter is really easy on my digestion - coconut oil bloats me - I have tired and tried with it. It just got to the point that it just repulses me now. I use it on my hair though. I am not hypothyroid though either so- who knows?
Butter is really easy on my digestion - coconut oil bloats me - I have tired and tried with it. It just got to the point that it just repulses me now. I use it on my hair though. I am not hypothyroid though either so- who knows?
have u tried ghee
I felt similar to you with regards to butter, but then ghee which is clarified butter really irritated me. So I rhink it is the other compounds in butter and not just the fats that synergize for u
@danishispsychic i had seen you elude to having stomach issues in the past on another thread, I know coconut oil is anti bacterial and has been correlated to improve the microbiome. @micheal94 ghee is purported to have similar anti bacterial properties to coconut oil sobim wondering is what you're both experiencing is pathogenic die off?
No it wasnt that, just an immune response to not being able to digest the fat, And I believe the methyl lysine and other compounds in butter may have some compensating effects
That's a good point. No point in personal attacks; she's playing a role in a larger system.You don't become a Harvard professor of epidemiology by going against the grain.
I forget what thread it was but theres something butter is extremely high in thats unrelated to the fatty acids. It seems to have negative effects or positive depending on situation but I really cant remember what the thread was .. dangVery interesting. Thanks for the input!
I forget what thread it was but theres something butter is extremely high in thats unrelated to the fatty acids. It seems to have negative effects or positive depending on situation but I really cant remember what the thread was .. dang
Natural 5AR inhibitors like coconut oil, zinc, provide effective moderate inhibition without shutting down 5AR contrary to drugs.Lauric acid was active on 5alphaR1 (IC(50)=17+/-3 microg/ml) and 5alphaR2 (IC(50)=19+/-9 microg/ml)
Inhibition of type 1 and type 2 5alpha-reductase activity by free fatty acids, active ingredients of Permixon. - PubMed - NCBI
Coconut oil seems often to be anti-dht. I'm not supporting the notion of cardiovascular disease from it
Natural 5AR inhibitors like coconut oil, zinc, provide effective moderate inhibition without shutting down 5AR contrary to drugs.
You will know when you are over inhibiting, when you grow breasts:
Over-inhibition of 5AR decreases the production of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) resulting in increased levels of testosterone. The consequent aromatization of testosterone into estradiol may cause gynecomastia, a known side effect of 5AR inhibitor drugs.
That is so. But to have best effect you would need to be active, not sedentary, for the body to use the increased testosterone optimally.Im sure this is a gross over simplification but given the model you provided above, would that suggest that minor inhibition of 5AR by coconut oil, accompanied by a diet including mushrooms and fruits known to be anti aromatase, would lead to an actual boost of testosterone without the estrogenic backlash that drugs have?
That is so. But to have best effect you would need to be active, not sedentary, for the body to use the increased testosterone optimally.
5AR is an enzyme. Never heard of it having receptors or finasteride binding to androgen receptors.Natural 5AR are usually non-competitive for receptor binding, drugs are very competative and highly downregulating. This natural mild downregulating of 5AR will trigger other enzymes to upregulate conversion of DHT metabolites back into DHT eventually to compensate for a net loss of DHT.
During this window you can profit from increased androgens for performance.
Butter is really easy on my digestion - coconut oil bloats me - I have tired and tried with it. It just got to the point that it just repulses me now. I use it on my hair though. I am not hypothyroid though either so- who knows?
I said “seems often” because of several anecdotes and general impressions from other users.
And yet here you say “most PUFAs” without giving me a single study.
Natural 5AR inhibitors like coconut oil
Natural 5AR inhibitors like coconut oil, zinc, provide effective moderate inhibition without shutting down 5AR contrary to drugs.
You will know when you are over inhibiting, when you grow breasts:
Over-inhibition of 5AR decreases the production of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) resulting in increased levels of testosterone. The consequent aromatization of testosterone into estradiol may cause gynecomastia, a known side effect of 5AR inhibitor drugs.