"Coconut Oil 'as Unhealthy As Beef Fat And Butter'"

stargazer1111

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The truth exists only if it can be turned into an effective clickbait.

What annoys me about most of the pro-saturated fat people like the doctor cited in these links is that they immediately turn around and blame sugar.

I don't think heart disease is caused by saturated fat OR sugar. I think it's the peroxidation of the polyunsaturated fats combined with a relative lack of vitamin C.
 

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The fact that they use terminology such as good and bad cholesterol just goes to show how simple minded and uneducated these people are. They want it to be simple. Something it either good or bad. Dont question the deepth of it or the research behind it. Also naming pork, beef and coconut oil and showing picture of french fries being fried is a joke and scaremongering. The oils they use to fry food is always vegetable oils. Sure can be hydrogenated but that causes trans fats aswell. But yeah if PUFA is healthy then those french fries is also health. Complete idiots. And like someone else pointed out. If its the saturation that makes the poison the coconut oil should be the worse fat to consume since its all saturated.
 

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The fact that they use terminology such as good and bad cholesterol just goes to show how simple minded and uneducated these people are. They want it to be simple. Something it either good or bad. Dont question the deepth of it or the research behind it. Also naming pork, beef and coconut oil and showing picture of french fries being fried is a joke and scaremongering. The oils they use to fry food is always vegetable oils. Sure can be hydrogenated but that causes trans fats aswell. But yeah if PUFA is healthy then those french fries is also health. Complete idiots. And like someone else pointed out. If its the saturation that makes the poison the coconut oil should be the worse fat to consume since its all saturated.

Not to mention that LDL and HDL aren't even cholesterol. They are lipoproteins that differ in their density. What determines their density? The ratio of protein to fatty acids. The more fatty acids, the lower the density. Yes, cholesterol is also carried by these lipoproteins, but the lipoproteins themselves carry so much more than just cholesterol.

It is the oxidized form of both the cholesterol and the lipoproteins that is the real issue, not the cholesterol or lipoproteins themselves. If the majority of the fatty acids being incorporated into the lipoproteins is saturated and monounsaturated, the lipoproteins and cholesterol molecules are much less likely to oxidize inappropriately.

The atherosclerosis field is dominated by old stalwarts who refuse to relinquish control and allow these old, ridiculous hypotheses to die.
 

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Not to mention that LDL and HDL aren't even cholesterol. They are lipoproteins that differ in their density. What determines their density? The ratio of protein to fatty acids. The more fatty acids, the lower the density. Yes, cholesterol is also carried by these lipoproteins, but the lipoproteins themselves carry so much more than just cholesterol.

It is the oxidized form of both the cholesterol and the lipoproteins that is the real issue, not the cholesterol or lipoproteins themselves. If the majority of the fatty acids being incorporated into the lipoproteins is saturated and monounsaturated, the lipoproteins and cholesterol molecules are much less likely to oxidize inappropriately.

The atherosclerosis field is dominated by old stalwarts who refuse to relinquish control and allow these old, ridiculous hypotheses to die.

Amen brother. Nice written.
 
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