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CNN: Covid-19 Death Rate Is Under 1% For Everyone But People Over 70

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...and that <1% death rate is actually about 0.17% on average for everybody except those people over 70. Bottom line - COVID-19 is now confirmed to be less lethal than the flu, according to the govt's own numbers (which are probably biased in favor of making COVID-19 look more deadly than it really is). Again, I am not sure what is going on in MSM, but here we have another striking admission that COVID-19 is basically nothing but a fearmongering exercise. Combined with the recent thread on the complete failure of the lockdowns, I think MSM may be hedging its bets that there may be impending severe legal repercussions for all those involved in orchestrating and implementing the largest and most bizarre worldwide social experiment to date. At least MSM can now say "we did not hide any info, we told the truth".
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC says Covid-19 death rate is under 1% for everyone but people over 70
"...According to the updated “best estimate” numbers posted on the agency’s website:
  • 0.003% of children 18 and younger who are infected with coronavirus die.
  • The fatality rate is 0.02% of people aged 20 to 49.
  • 0.5% of people aged 50 to 69.
  • 5.4% of people 70 and older.
@Drareg @Regina @boris
 
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I think MSM may be hedging its bets that there may be impending severe legal repercussions for all those involved in orchestrating and implementing the largest and most bizarre worldwide social experiment to date. At least MSM can now say "we did not hide any info, we told the truth".

Have you heard about Thomas Renz's suit in Ohio?


Renz states, at about the 20 minute mark, that if he gets to discovery (and apparently that's happening this week), it doesn't matter ultimately if he wins or loses, as someone out there will be able to win big. Renz has a firm grasp on the fact that the response has been wildly unconstitutional, and the "science" and "facts" used to back the lockdown are highly questionable at best, downright fraudulent at worst.

Other links-

Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up - Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz

Special Solari Report: Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up – Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz – Solari Report

COVID: Major case filed against Ohio governor and the state of Ohio for restricting freedom without legitimate justification « Jon Rappoport's Blog

From the last article-

If this case goes to trial, the door will open to the presentation of fact and science.

Attorney Renz, for the plaintiffs, is well aware of this, and his filing is studded with bold and accurate claims of fact:

“According to recent data from the Ohio COVID-19 Dashboard, we can see that the ‘spike’ in cases is actually just a spike in testing. The State went from a few thousand tests per day to 25,000 tests plus per day. The positivity rate for COVID-19 has remained fairly steady but there have been more tests.”

“When the Emergency was declared we heard a daily drumbeat about the danger and deaths related to COVID-19. Now that the case fatality rate has been shown to be roughly the same as the yearly flu…those [death] numbers are simply not scary to the public. As a result, the State sees no impact from talking about fatalities and has instead begun testing more so they could tell us there are more cases.”

“The PCR tests are generally viewed as the means of determining if a patient has COVID-19. The problem is that the inventor of the PCR test, who won a Nobel Prize in chemistry for the invention, specifically stated that the test was not well-suited to and never designed to diagnose disease. Much has been made about this in the press and elsewhere but the reason there are issues with PCR testing in relation to COVID is that PCR testing cannot detect how much of a virus exists in a person. Exposure of the existence of incomplete traces of a virus do not mean a person is infected with a disease [,] which is part of the reason the PCR tests have an elevated rate of false positives.”

“…there is not even a true standard for testing…Instead we have numerous tests from numerous vendors that may or may not have a similar standard for what it means to ‘have’ COVID-19. The CDC, governor, and ODH [Ohio Department of Health] know this so they have allowed for the diagnosis of cases based on as meaningless criteria as a cough in a community in which COVID supposedly exists.”

Plow through this quote and then receive the translation below: “Another document also came to light that is critical in demonstrating the egregiously misleading nature of the public COVID-19 data. On the final paragraph of page 39 of a document published by the FDA regarding instructions for a COVID-19 test is the following quote: ‘Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen’.”

“In plain English this means that there are no available pure 2019-nCOVvirus isolates to test against so instead an educated best guess is being used. The question this leads us to is how accurate can a test be for a virus that has not been defined…? If our freedoms are to be abridged under an emergency declaration related to a disease, should it not be a requirement that the disease at least be defined?”
 
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Wow. All those involved are more crooked than a barrel of snakes. At least Fauci The Fraud gave us permission to take vitamin C and D3.
 

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Have you heard about Thomas Renz's suit in Ohio?


Renz states, at about the 20 minute mark, that if he gets to discovery (and apparently that's happening this week), it doesn't matter ultimately if he wins or loses, as someone out there will be able to win big. Renz has a firm grasp on the fact that the response has been wildly unconstitutional, and the "science" and "facts" used to back the lockdown are highly questionable at best, downright fraudulent at worst.

Other links-

Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up - Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz

Special Solari Report: Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up – Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz – Solari Report

COVID: Major case filed against Ohio governor and the state of Ohio for restricting freedom without legitimate justification « Jon Rappoport's Blog

From the last article-

If this case goes to trial, the door will open to the presentation of fact and science.

Attorney Renz, for the plaintiffs, is well aware of this, and his filing is studded with bold and accurate claims of fact:

“According to recent data from the Ohio COVID-19 Dashboard, we can see that the ‘spike’ in cases is actually just a spike in testing. The State went from a few thousand tests per day to 25,000 tests plus per day. The positivity rate for COVID-19 has remained fairly steady but there have been more tests.”

“When the Emergency was declared we heard a daily drumbeat about the danger and deaths related to COVID-19. Now that the case fatality rate has been shown to be roughly the same as the yearly flu…those [death] numbers are simply not scary to the public. As a result, the State sees no impact from talking about fatalities and has instead begun testing more so they could tell us there are more cases.”

“The PCR tests are generally viewed as the means of determining if a patient has COVID-19. The problem is that the inventor of the PCR test, who won a Nobel Prize in chemistry for the invention, specifically stated that the test was not well-suited to and never designed to diagnose disease. Much has been made about this in the press and elsewhere but the reason there are issues with PCR testing in relation to COVID is that PCR testing cannot detect how much of a virus exists in a person. Exposure of the existence of incomplete traces of a virus do not mean a person is infected with a disease [,] which is part of the reason the PCR tests have an elevated rate of false positives.”

“…there is not even a true standard for testing…Instead we have numerous tests from numerous vendors that may or may not have a similar standard for what it means to ‘have’ COVID-19. The CDC, governor, and ODH [Ohio Department of Health] know this so they have allowed for the diagnosis of cases based on as meaningless criteria as a cough in a community in which COVID supposedly exists.”

Plow through this quote and then receive the translation below: “Another document also came to light that is critical in demonstrating the egregiously misleading nature of the public COVID-19 data. On the final paragraph of page 39 of a document published by the FDA regarding instructions for a COVID-19 test is the following quote: ‘Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen’.”

“In plain English this means that there are no available pure 2019-nCOVvirus isolates to test against so instead an educated best guess is being used. The question this leads us to is how accurate can a test be for a virus that has not been defined…? If our freedoms are to be abridged under an emergency declaration related to a disease, should it not be a requirement that the disease at least be defined?”

Wow! Had not heard about his lawsuit, thanks for providing all this info. I am guessing this is just the beginning and will provide legal precedent for class action lawsuits of some sort in pretty much every state. But here is the thing - say he wins the lawsuit, or other people subsequently win lawsuits about this charade. The defendants in this case are government agencies, right? In a civil lawsuit, the penalty is money paid by defendant to plaintiff. We are talking about potentially trillions in damages awarded in this case. If the govt loses where is it going to get the money from to pay the plaintiffs? Raise taxes or print more money? Sounds like the taxpayer would be screwed either way. Can a court order the govt to forfeit real assets like land, real estate, etc?
 

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Wow! Had not heard about his lawsuit, thanks for providing all this info. I am guessing this is just the beginning and will provide legal precedent for class action lawsuits of some sort in pretty much every state. But here is the thing - say he wins the lawsuit, or other people subsequently win lawsuits about this charade. The defendants in this case are government agencies, right? In a civil lawsuit, the penalty is money paid by defendant to plaintiff. We are talking about potentially trillions in damages awarded in this case. If the govt loses where is it going to get the money from to pay the plaintiffs? Raise taxes or print more money? Sounds like the taxpayer would be screwed either way. Can a court order the govt to forfeit real assets like land, real estate, etc?
...and that <1% death rate is actually about 0.17% on average for everybody except those people over 70. Bottom line - COVID-19 is now confirmed to be less lethal than the flu, according to the govt's own numbers (which are probably biased in favor of making COVID-19 look more deadly than it really is). Again, I am not sure what is going on in MSM, but here we have another striking admission that COVID-19 is basically nothing but a fearmongering exercise. Combined with the recent thread on the complete failure of the lockdowns, I think MSM may be hedging its bets that there may be impending severe legal repercussions for all those involved in orchestrating and implementing the largest and most bizarre worldwide social experiment to date. At least MSM can now say "we did not hide any info, we told the truth".
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC says Covid-19 death rate is under 1% for everyone but people over 70
"...According to the updated “best estimate” numbers posted on the agency’s website:
  • 0.003% of children 18 and younger who are infected with coronavirus die.
  • The fatality rate is 0.02% of people aged 20 to 49.
  • 0.5% of people aged 50 to 69.
  • 5.4% of people 70 and older.
@Drareg @Regina @boris
I have always thought it to be a mind control experiment.
There is the horror of what the rulers did.
But the greater horror is how many people obeyed. (and still are)

But the GPMB document (board member Fauci) said the first one is a simulation and the second one lethal. So they might hit us with anthrax before we rise up and mount legal defenses.

And they say they just need more NGO's: World Economic Forum @wef
 

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Here in the UK the '2nd wave' hype is ramping up, I wouldn't be surprised by the end of this week or early next week the UK will go into a national lockdown. when neither the infection or death rate actually warrant it, wish I knew what was really going on with this Covid thing/hysteria :(
 

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Here in the UK the '2nd wave' hype is ramping up, I wouldn't be surprised by the end of this week or early next week the UK will go into a national lockdown. when neither the infection or death rate actually warrant it, wish I knew what was really going on with this Covid thing/hysteria :(
endgame
 

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I have always thought it to be a mind control experiment.
There is the horror of what the rulers did.
But the greater horror is how many people obeyed. (and still are)

But the GPMB document (board member Fauci) said the first one is a simulation and the second one lethal. So they might hit us with anthrax before we rise up and mount legal defenses.

And they say they just need more NGO's: World Economic Forum @wef

Where in the document does it mention the 2nd one being lethal?
 

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Where in the document does it mention the 2nd one being lethal?
page 39; 2nd paragraph. Note the document states that these are the sole opinions of the board. (see Fauci as board member).

Now this document took some time to assemble. Gets published in Sept 2019. Covid nerf balls n masks.
 

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So what in it makes you interpret that they say that the 2nd wave will be real and not a simulation? What a nightmare it would be that all us deniers finally make progress ending mask mandates and lockdowns and then they release a real virus, forever banning any future dissent because it "led to" the real outbreak. It would create real, viable hatred towards anyone that ever said this wasn't real. This would lead to it actually being illegal to disagree with the UN and WHO, likely about global warming as well because that's their other big agenda, because the denial cost so many lives. We would all be heretics, persecuted for our lies. It would be the most ruthless of intellect. This is the absolute worst thing that could happen. It would seal the win for the globalist agenda. I'm actually terrified of this now.
 
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The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Thursday it had changed the way it was reporting death rates for coronavirus, and will now report the infection fatality ratio by age.

I can just see how this is going to play out... the government has changed the way they are reporting deaths to trick us into going back to being normal, we're not falling for this! Like the paranoia the MSM had created is now going to continue on without it.
 

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So what in it makes you interpret that they say that the 2nd wave will be real and not a simulation? What a nightmare it would be that all us deniers finally make progress ending mask mandates and lockdowns and then they release a real virus, forever banning any future dissent because it "led to" the real outbreak. It would create real, viable hatred towards anyone that ever said this wasn't real. This would lead to it actually being illegal to disagree with the UN and WHO, likely about global warming as well because that's their other big agenda, because the denial cost so many lives. We would all be heretics, persecuted for our lies. It would be the most ruthless of intellect. This is the absolute worst thing that could happen. It would seal the win for the globalist agenda. I'm actually terrified of this now.
They are good at evil plots and infatiguably dedicated to one world dictatorship. The ruling class (the "experts") and everyone else a peasant. Keeping nasty and backward hierarchical fighting among the peasants.

As far as modern day talking about the mobsters (paperclip nazi's) and new recruits continuing the allegiance to the end goal, I follow George Webb:
He pops around on different sites and I follow where he'll be at his twitter. TruthLeaks_Investigative Journalist

But going further back, how the ruling families came to be is described in Dean Henderson's little book on the Illuminati.
 

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District Judge Stickman on September 14 found that the Corona virus lockdown orders by Pennsylvania Gov Tom Wolf unconstitutional. It's funny but nobody is talking about this.

Judge Rules Pennsylvania Governor's Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional

Have you heard about Thomas Renz's suit in Ohio?


Renz states, at about the 20 minute mark, that if he gets to discovery (and apparently that's happening this week), it doesn't matter ultimately if he wins or loses, as someone out there will be able to win big. Renz has a firm grasp on the fact that the response has been wildly unconstitutional, and the "science" and "facts" used to back the lockdown are highly questionable at best, downright fraudulent at worst.

Other links-

Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up - Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz

Special Solari Report: Covid-19: Ohio Stands Up – Jon Rappoport Interviews Attorney Tom Renz – Solari Report

COVID: Major case filed against Ohio governor and the state of Ohio for restricting freedom without legitimate justification « Jon Rappoport's Blog

From the last article-

If this case goes to trial, the door will open to the presentation of fact and science.

Attorney Renz, for the plaintiffs, is well aware of this, and his filing is studded with bold and accurate claims of fact:

“According to recent data from the Ohio COVID-19 Dashboard, we can see that the ‘spike’ in cases is actually just a spike in testing. The State went from a few thousand tests per day to 25,000 tests plus per day. The positivity rate for COVID-19 has remained fairly steady but there have been more tests.”

“When the Emergency was declared we heard a daily drumbeat about the danger and deaths related to COVID-19. Now that the case fatality rate has been shown to be roughly the same as the yearly flu…those [death] numbers are simply not scary to the public. As a result, the State sees no impact from talking about fatalities and has instead begun testing more so they could tell us there are more cases.”

“The PCR tests are generally viewed as the means of determining if a patient has COVID-19. The problem is that the inventor of the PCR test, who won a Nobel Prize in chemistry for the invention, specifically stated that the test was not well-suited to and never designed to diagnose disease. Much has been made about this in the press and elsewhere but the reason there are issues with PCR testing in relation to COVID is that PCR testing cannot detect how much of a virus exists in a person. Exposure of the existence of incomplete traces of a virus do not mean a person is infected with a disease [,] which is part of the reason the PCR tests have an elevated rate of false positives.”

“…there is not even a true standard for testing…Instead we have numerous tests from numerous vendors that may or may not have a similar standard for what it means to ‘have’ COVID-19. The CDC, governor, and ODH [Ohio Department of Health] know this so they have allowed for the diagnosis of cases based on as meaningless criteria as a cough in a community in which COVID supposedly exists.”

Plow through this quote and then receive the translation below: “Another document also came to light that is critical in demonstrating the egregiously misleading nature of the public COVID-19 data. On the final paragraph of page 39 of a document published by the FDA regarding instructions for a COVID-19 test is the following quote: ‘Since no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available, assays designed for detection of the 2019-nCoV RNA were tested with characterized stocks of in vitro transcribed full length RNA (N gene; GenBank accession: MN908947.2) of known titer (RNA copies/μL) spiked into a diluent consisting of a suspension of human A549 cells and viral transport medium (VTM) to mimic clinical specimen’.”

“In plain English this means that there are no available pure 2019-nCOVvirus isolates to test against so instead an educated best guess is being used. The question this leads us to is how accurate can a test be for a virus that has not been defined…? If our freedoms are to be abridged under an emergency declaration related to a disease, should it not be a requirement that the disease at least be defined?”
 

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...and that <1% death rate is actually about 0.17% on average for everybody except those people over 70. Bottom line - COVID-19 is now confirmed to be less lethal than the flu, according to the govt's own numbers (which are probably biased in favor of making COVID-19 look more deadly than it really is). Again, I am not sure what is going on in MSM, but here we have another striking admission that COVID-19 is basically nothing but a fearmongering exercise. Combined with the recent thread on the complete failure of the lockdowns, I think MSM may be hedging its bets that there may be impending severe legal repercussions for all those involved in orchestrating and implementing the largest and most bizarre worldwide social experiment to date. At least MSM can now say "we did not hide any info, we told the truth".
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC says Covid-19 death rate is under 1% for everyone but people over 70
"...According to the updated “best estimate” numbers posted on the agency’s website:
  • 0.003% of children 18 and younger who are infected with coronavirus die.
  • The fatality rate is 0.02% of people aged 20 to 49.
  • 0.5% of people aged 50 to 69.
  • 5.4% of people 70 and older.
@Drareg @Regina @boris

And it's even on the CDC's website, thanks for sharing!


So we have come full circle now, remember half a year ago when the WHO director general deliberately mixed up the Case Fatality Rate and the Infection Fatality Rate?

EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General Of WHO Overstated The Fatality Rate Of The Coronavirus
EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General of World Health Organization Severely Overstated the Fatality Rate of the Coronavirus Leading to the Greatest Global Panic in History
corona-virus-vs-flu-3-16-600x246.jpg

Based on the above numbers, the actual fatality rate for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus is 3.4%.
The actual mortality rates for those who were confirmed to have had the flu are around 10%.
The actual data shows that the mortality rate for those who had the flu (10%) is almost twice as high than for those with the coronavirus (3.8%).
 

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And it's even on the CDC's website, thanks for sharing!


So we have come full circle now, remember half a year ago when the WHO director general deliberately mixed up the Case Fatality Rate and the Infection Fatality Rate?

EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General Of WHO Overstated The Fatality Rate Of The Coronavirus
EXCLUSIVE: Evidence Shows Director General of World Health Organization Severely Overstated the Fatality Rate of the Coronavirus Leading to the Greatest Global Panic in History
corona-virus-vs-flu-3-16-600x246.jpg

Based on the above numbers, the actual fatality rate for those who were confirmed to have had the coronavirus is 3.4%.
The actual mortality rates for those who were confirmed to have had the flu are around 10%.
The actual data shows that the mortality rate for those who had the flu (10%) is almost twice as high than for those with the coronavirus (3.8%).

Yeah, I remember that. I actually brought up the WHO gaffe to a doctor friend of mine and he said "so what's the big deal, Trump lies all the time too? It is very common at such high political levels." Bottom line - the people for who the lockdowns worked well (mostly financially) are going to defend it no matter what. I truly wonder what percentage of lockdown defenders truly believed in lockdowns and protecting others and what percentage is simply using it as a cover because the lockdowns actually benefited them...
 

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...and that <1% death rate is actually about 0.17% on average for everybody except those people over 70. Bottom line - COVID-19 is now confirmed to be less lethal than the flu, according to the govt's own numbers (which are probably biased in favor of making COVID-19 look more deadly than it really is). Again, I am not sure what is going on in MSM, but here we have another striking admission that COVID-19 is basically nothing but a fearmongering exercise. Combined with the recent thread on the complete failure of the lockdowns, I think MSM may be hedging its bets that there may be impending severe legal repercussions for all those involved in orchestrating and implementing the largest and most bizarre worldwide social experiment to date. At least MSM can now say "we did not hide any info, we told the truth".
Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
CDC says Covid-19 death rate is under 1% for everyone but people over 70
"...According to the updated “best estimate” numbers posted on the agency’s website:
  • 0.003% of children 18 and younger who are infected with coronavirus die.
  • The fatality rate is 0.02% of people aged 20 to 49.
  • 0.5% of people aged 50 to 69.
  • 5.4% of people 70 and older.
@Drareg @Regina @boris

The covid cult were hysterical about this news, they were trying to twist the narrative by saying people with comorbidity’s make up 1/3 of the population so we are still murderers by neglecting this, as usual the logic is absent in this analogy by ignoring the presence of flu every year doing the same thing, it’s the cult cognitive dissonance kicking in, doubling down on beliefs.

The bottom line in all this for me is our constitutions have a weak leg and that’s the health act, legislation in the name of protecting public health leaves us open to authoritarianism, this has been proven in contemporary times with covid19.

What it says to me is the health act will be used once again to impinge on our freedoms and justify more authoritarian top down control in the name of climate change, climate change will be propagated to be the cause of covid19 soon therefore we must act, climate change is basically the cause of everything at this point, anything that allows humans more freedom and less top down authoritarianism is bad for the climate. Less freedom and ruled by tyrants is good for the climate.

It wouldn’t surprise that some "legal experts" ,preferably those compromised by Jeffrey Epstein will start touting the narrative of how the public health act within constitutions allows and justifies the disbanding of said constitution in the name of saving public health, a new constitution is necessary for this.
 

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District Judge Stickman on September 14 found that the Corona virus lockdown orders by Pennsylvania Gov Tom Wolf unconstitutional. It's funny but nobody is talking about this.

Judge Rules Pennsylvania Governor's Shutdown Orders Unconstitutional

Hopefully we will see more of this, the supreme courts were reasonable at the start but now we have evidence around the virus lockdowns are delusional and they need to act.
Even in countries where the Supreme Court justices are sympathetic to the globalist ideal will find it hard to ignore "science" and data in these cases.

Remember the globalist hate the constitution and want it replaced with the UN’s constitution, Bill Epstein gates has publicly stated people have too much freedoms and that’s why we weren’t successful with handling covid19, it’s regularly stated at Davos and the usual elite meet ups that we need less democracy now for more democracy later.
 
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