Chubby Older Dads Are More Attractive To Women, Study Finds

[Constatine]

Women and men are indeed fundamentally different in many regards. Unfortunately many men judge women as if they were men and women judge men as if they were women. It is very important to recognize how masculinity and femininity interact with each other, but when discussing such things it is also important to not phrase things so that they would appear as personal attacks. Modern day feminism is terrible for society as it attempts to distort the meaning of masculinity and femininity. Even worse men and woman are being biologically distorted as well. Men are becoming less androgenic and women are taking hormones as early as their teens. It is not by chance that male feminists tend not to be very androgenic. Wide spread porn use is also to blame for the strange interactions seen in modern day life. Male masturbation (or male orgasm in general) quite simply lowers brain androgenic activity, making him act less masculine and more passive. I think this is a very tough subject to talk about as we live in a society that literally has words for a specific way of thinking (misogynist, feminist, etc). Thus when one speaks of such things he/she suddenly represents the entire discourse. These words mean more to us than the things they actually represent because we have attached emotion and social validation to such words. Thus when such words are used the actual argument is thrown out the window and the participants must skillfully contort their perspective to one that cannot be defined by such words.

 

[AretnaP]

Women and men are indeed fundamentally different in many regards. Unfortunately many men judge women as if they were men and women judge men as if they were women. It is very important to recognize how masculinity and femininity interact with each other, but when discussing such things it is also important to not phrase things so that they would appear as personal attacks. Modern day feminism is terrible for society as it attempts to distort the meaning of masculinity and femininity. Even worse men and woman are being biologically distorted as well. Men are becoming less androgenic and women are taking hormones as early as their teens. It is not by chance that male feminists tend not to be very androgenic. Wide spread porn use is also to blame for the strange interactions seen in modern day life. Male masturbation (or male orgasm in general) quite simply lowers brain androgenic activity, making him act less masculine and more passive. I think this is a very tough subject to talk about as we live in a society that literally has words for a specific way of thinking (misogynist, feminist, etc). Thus when one speaks of such things he/she suddenly represents the entire discourse. These words mean more to us than the things they actually represent because we have attached emotion and social validation to such words. Thus when such words are used the actual argument is thrown out the window and the participants must skillfully contort their perspective to one that cannot be defined by such words.

modern feminism is just a manifestation of innate human nature

 

[Constatine]

modern feminism is just a manifestation of innate human nature

How so?

 

[bdawg]

I don't see any study, just an excerpt from a book. Women say all kinds of things, that sense of humor or kindness are the most attractive qualities to them. I happen to go by actions rather than words.

+1

 

[bdawg]

I don't pretend to know some magical connection between nutrition, health, metabolism, and societal behavior. I go to evolutionary roots to explain these things, and believe that men and women are DIFFERENT. They have evolved different strategies to reproduce, we are here now because of the success of those strategies, and they effect the way the brain as well as the rest of the body are built and function.

All of this *mind interaction* on the internet is happening filtered through the meat-space of your brain, which is not a neutral actor. I don't think metabolism has much to do with it, a particular sentence or idea will come across differently on average to males vs. females based on differences in the central nervous system. Women can (again on average) see more gradients in color shades than men, is that because of metabolism?

Men or women are not *better* than the other, they are different. My problem with the modern narrative and society is that women are being legally privileged and socially privileged and not being held accountable for their actions, and men are forced to subsidize this with taxes. The average straight white male pays much more into the state than gets out, and this is balanced by single mothers, gays/lesbians, and the various non-East Asian minorities getting more out than they put in. This cannot go anywhere other than enraging men who are literally slaves to this system (forced to work without compensation) while being told they are the oppressors of all of those net-tax beneficiary groups. This fact alone proves men are *better* are gathering resources, since if the opposite were true why would women need to be net tax beneficiaries? Stating these facts gets you labeled a hater of women, and the traditional female strategy of withholding sex and affection from deviant men (those on the wrong side of the tribal opinion on issues) is in full effect, bending most men to submit to being an ATM machine for single mothers and minorities while being verbally beaten on in order to get sex and a relationship. If they are lucky their partner will not divorce them, take the kids, and receive money from them for the rest of their lives.

I mean, I could go on, but what else needs to be said? Middle and upper class white coastal women today complain more loudly than any generation of women anywhere in the world, yet have the most privilege of any generation of humans ever in existence. That's really all there is to it.

How would you explain the gender salary differences for similar roles? it seems women are being shortchanged in that department

 

[bdawg]

To get the most accurate information I absolutely demand a tinder test be done.

tinder is the tape by which males are measured in the 2010s

This isn't "bull****", it's science.

Tinder tells us what opinion surveys do not, I recall reading something like the top 10% most attractive males matched with the top 50% attractive women and the bottom 90% of men are competing for the lower half of the 50% of women

But then again thats tinder with a focus on short-term, marriage might be a different dynamic with different gender strategies

 

[Dhair]

How would you explain the gender salary differences for similar roles? it seems women are being shortchanged in that department

The gender pay gap (in America) was debunked as early as the 1970s by world-renowned economist Thomas Sowell. It is nonsense.

 

[Watson350]

The gender pay gap (in America) was debunked as early as the 1970s by world-renowned economist Thomas Sowell. It is nonsense.

Just finished his new book Intellectuals and Race, last month. It reads like a textbook but polarizes some of the very issues in this thread.

 

[B-styles]

I have heard of this recently, women being into the dad bod. I seen some youtube experiments too; joe sixpack vs dad body which do women prefer. They all preferred dad body for relationship, but joe sixpack to fornicate with.
Of course endless reports show that women even in relationships commit infidelity with joe sixpacks anyways.

I think the reasoning is women want a male in a relationship that isn't too attractive, so they don't fear of him cheating, as most women are extremely insecure.

Great answer !

I think the reasoning is women want a male in a relationship that isn't too attractive, so they don't fear of him cheating, as most women are extremely insecure.

Yup exactly

 

[B-styles]

Though I think the women that like chubby dad may have 'daddy issues '

 

[AretnaP]

How so?

Watch stardusk.

 

[kayumochi]

Girls date hot guys but end up marrying a quite different kind of man. If you haven't observed this, men, I suspect you are still boys ...

 

[Watson350]

Girls date hot guys but end up marrying a quite different kind of man. If you haven't observed this, men, I suspect you are still boys ...

Provided the 'hot guy' is intelligent, kind, and has the relative earning potential desirable I do not think these categories are mutual exclusive.

 

[kayumochi]

Provided the 'hot guy' is intelligent, kind, and has the relative earning potential desirable I do not think these categories are mutual exclusive.

No, they are not mutually exclusive and didn't mean to imply they were. Many, many girls I knew in college were happy to f**k the hot guy with the guitar and ended up marrying a quite different type, one that wasn't as hot but one that developed into a good provider and caring father ...

 

[Dhair]

Girls date hot guys but end up marrying a quite different kind of man. If you haven't observed this, men, I suspect you are still boys ...

I think all of the men in this thread are well aware that women behave this way. It just is what it is. It is the women that I have spoken to who vehemently deny this, which I find endlessly amusing. I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing, it's just something that men need to be told early and often. There is the lover and there is the provider, and women find it difficult to see you as both.

 

[Kyle M]

How would you explain the gender salary differences for similar roles? it seems women are being shortchanged in that department

You haven’t been presented with the refutation? Economists and even many feminists (Christina Hoff Summers) debunked that made up talking point years ago.

 

[Kyle M]

The gender pay gap (in America) was debunked as early as the 1970s by world-renowned economist Thomas Sowell. It is nonsense.

Deeper cut, yes Sowell debunks the a priori idea that any disparity is per se because of some kind of oppression in “Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality”

 

[Kyle M]

I agree with this.

However, we need to stop putting the blame on women, per se. It's just the way our culture has gone in the 100 years.

Are you saying that I’m unfairly putting “the blame” on women as a group? I think that is extremely simplistic.

Let’s analyze one thing, welfare for single mothers. If you subsidize something, you get more of it than you otherwise would have had, so welfare for single mothers is artificially increasing the number of single mothers, with all of the negative downstream effects in society that brings relative to intact families.

If women did not have the vote, would there be this program of welfare for single mothers as it stands today? What if men did not have the vote, but women did?

So, to the extent involuntary wealth transfers (welfare) to single mothers is immoral and creates more broken families, “women” as a voting block are “to blame.”

Or am I missing something?

 

[x-ray peat]

Are you saying that I’m unfairly putting “the blame” on women as a group? I think that is extremely simplistic.

Let’s analyze one thing, welfare for single mothers. If you subsidize something, you get more of it than you otherwise would have had, so welfare for single mothers is artificially increasing the number of single mothers, with all of the negative downstream effects in society that brings relative to intact families.

If women did not have the vote, would there be this program of welfare for single mothers as it stands today? What if men did not have the vote, but women did?

So, to the extent involuntary wealth transfers (welfare) to single mothers is immoral and creates more broken families, “women” as a voting block are “to blame.”

Or am I missing something?

lol you are missing a little consistency in your thoughts. So should we or should we not blame women for all our problems? In another thread you were arguing that women voters caused World War I; now they are responsible for the welfare state. It seems to me that it isn't @whodathunkit who is the one being extremely simplistic.

 

[walker_in_aus]

I don't understand on this forum the endless wondering and discussion about what women want sexually and physically and emotionally. Some will want something, some will want another. Always people trying to "figure out" women like we are the same?

Can't we jut want what we want, and if it's not you, move on?