Chelating BPA

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  1. haidut

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    Actually, this should apply to all estrogenic chemicals similar to BPA contained in plastics. Just b/c the plastic container says "BPA-free" does not mean it is not harmful. Often they have BPS (a close relative of BPA), which is even more toxic and less studied than BPA. It looks like activated charcoal may be able to chelate BPA from the plasma:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16173588

    As far as pulling it from the tissues - that's probably going to depend on liver health since BPA is fat soluble and the liver needs to make it water-soluble first and to get in the bloodstream (I think but but not sure). But it's a good start.
    Also, for women thinking of getting pregnant or already pregnant, it looks like folic acid may be able to provide some protection to the fetus from the effects of BPA:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17670942

    I already mentioned in other threads taking tocopherol (vitamin E) since it has been shown to bind to the estrogen "receptors" as antagonist and thus compete with BPA for entry into the cell and negating some/all of its estrogenic effects. Finally, it is important to take thyroid which competes with BPA for binding to the thyroid "receptors" also negates its anti-thyroid effects.
     
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    That is so interesting! I love how I feel when I take activated charcoal. I would probably take it everyday if I could. Can you? I always thought it was just helpful with endotoxin and have limited it to once per week.
     
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    I've taken it twice now in one week. How much are you taking at a time?
     
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    1/4-1/2 tsp. before bed. Before starting a Peat inspired lifestyle I took it more often and in capsule form of 10-20 capsules throughout the day. My endotoxin issues were much worse then.
     
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    Here is a RP quote on charcoal

     
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    Thanks! I do cascara and raw carrots. I've noticed some of the charcoals do seem to work better than others.
     
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    RP has also said this about activated charcoal. Personally it has worked wonders for me and I use it.

    Ray Peat on Endotoxin at functionalalps

    Ray Peat on the Benefits of Raw Carrot at functionalalps

    Food-junk and some mystery ailments: Fatigue, Alzheimer's, Colitis, Immunodeficiency
     
  8. paymanz

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    how charcoal can absorb BPA from blood?we dont absorb charcoal into our blood stream right?
     
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    http://158.75.16.31/web_page/pdf/2010_01.pdf
     
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    It adsorbs, not absorbs. Basically, when the charcoal reaches your small intestine it extracts toxins (and some substances like serotonin and estrogen) from the blood through electrical attraction. The small intestine is very well supplied with blood and whatever blood passes through the intestine while there is charcoal in it, toxins will leave the blood and attach to the charcoal particles. Then it all gets excreted with the stool. Also, some toxins linger in the colon and when charcoal passes through the colon it will adsorb those toxins as well.
     
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    TIL. :hattip
     
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    The abstract only talks about water not blood or intestine conditions. Up to now I imagined AC worked by binding toxins floating around in the intestines (not in the blood) along with food and excretions, so it just reduces the amount of toxins that could enter should there be a failure of the intestine to prevent them from entering. I guess that's the main use of AC at the emergency room, soak everything up. Your explanation is interesting but also surprising (absorbs blood toxins while not entering the blood? in any significant amount?).
     
  13. Such_Saturation

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    Liver excretes toxins in the bile, and bile is normally reabsorbed further down the line.
     
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    interesting explanation.
    one of my concerns about AC is that if it can enter blood stream.its a fine powder.that should be harmful.do you think is has any chance to get through intestinal wall and inter blood?
    i have another concern that if it can absorb or "adsorb" toxin it can also do it with vitamins and hormones probably.and also bile salt which are very valuable compounds.
    but they are just some thoughts.whenever i take AV i feel overll good.
     
  15. jyb

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    Yes, there's a study on this forum about AC particles having gone through. That might be the reason behind Peat's recommendation to focus on carrots rather than every day AC. Otherwise yes, it will destroy vitamins at least in the food you're eating.
     
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    what about normal charcoal? the ones animals use in nature!? i guess they are safer for occasional use.
     
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    But how do you know it is effective? What is used in studies and to absorb toxin in hospitals is always AC I think
     
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    i know it absorbs chemicals,not as good as AC for sure.folks used to use it to deodorize refrigerators for example.some animals also eat charcoal,i guess for its toxin binding properties.
     
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    I think rp is concerned about persorption of activated charcoal. It will enter the blood, capillaries, kidneys, brain. Through persorption. Which is why he recommended carrot instead. Not sure this would really harm a whole lot but it doesn't sound healthy to have carbon particles loose in your brain and bloodstream.
     
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