Rinse & rePeat
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“One thing that happens in the vegetable diet, heavily based on [the] cabbage family, or beans, lentils and nuts, these proteins, in quality, rank about 15 times lower than the highest quality protein." -Ray Peat
Oh the great debate, carnivores verses the plant eaters. There came a time when I decided to bond with my, tender hearted, son and get to know the vegetarian cause. It felt good to maybe save a couple of cows in my lifetime, cumulatively speaking, all by myself. I really lived it too, as I was never fond of meat really anyways. Now I could focus on saving the planet one piece of buttered toast with jelly at a time. Yeah sometimes I felt my cause asked me to deny myself, like a visit to a Mexican restaurant, when I couldn't even eat the beans because they were cooked in lard, and all I walked away with was a bowl of chips and salsa and some rice. Calling ahead for the menu everywhere was my stategy, and many times I would have to pack a cooler with my own food to parties. After a few months of it, a look in the mirror on vacation gave me a horrific view of the most cellulite I had ever had on my legs. This was my reward, after I had been so devoted, eating all those pots of beans topped with cheddar, sour cream, fresh Jalapenos and sweet onion? The realization set in that I had eaten all those vegetarian pizzas, tofu topped Thai noodles and big salads for nothing! I realized at that cellulite moment, I could sacrifice no more, and became a Pescatarian. I rationalized fish didn't have too many feelings, and so I would now have to make my semi-sacrifice eating spicy mayo laden sushi rolls and tartar sauce dipped fish & chips. I was doing good for the planet and that was important. God knows I tried!
After a year of it, and thoroughly brainwashed into the disgust of flesh, I was the worst version of myself ever! I finally made the announcement, I had to save myself, I was going back to eating the way I knew I should be eating. It wasn't easy to return to normal, as I continually visualized consuming flesh and feelings. I still have a conscience about that.
Many years forward, I know I made the right decision. I now support my animal friends, by spending the extra money to support a more humane life for animals raised for our food supply, by buying pasture raised and grass fed meats, and I am grateful to them for my good health.
Are we meant to be meat eaters? I believe so. Besides our bodies being a "temple of God", and needing to be the salt of the earth, we are part of a food chain. We are allowed to eat meat and we are expected to eat crickets if need be. We are not suppose to be glutinous, wasteful or ungrateful.
I watch a survival show called Naked & Afraid, and this particular episode was the best comparison i have ever seen as to how the vegetarian and meat eating diets compare. Usually you see a fat person losing tons of weight being a vegetarian, supposedly proving the vegetarian's point. I like this comparison where a longtime active vegetarian comes into the challenge with her soft body and an active meat eater comes in with his muscular body and the two continue on their respective paths. They both lost close to the same amount of weight, with her eating her plant matter and him forcing down undesirable proteins. The challenge was for two weeks and neither of them was particularly active during the challenge, trying to conserve energy because food was scarce.The before and after pictures tell the rest of the story.
Oh the great debate, carnivores verses the plant eaters. There came a time when I decided to bond with my, tender hearted, son and get to know the vegetarian cause. It felt good to maybe save a couple of cows in my lifetime, cumulatively speaking, all by myself. I really lived it too, as I was never fond of meat really anyways. Now I could focus on saving the planet one piece of buttered toast with jelly at a time. Yeah sometimes I felt my cause asked me to deny myself, like a visit to a Mexican restaurant, when I couldn't even eat the beans because they were cooked in lard, and all I walked away with was a bowl of chips and salsa and some rice. Calling ahead for the menu everywhere was my stategy, and many times I would have to pack a cooler with my own food to parties. After a few months of it, a look in the mirror on vacation gave me a horrific view of the most cellulite I had ever had on my legs. This was my reward, after I had been so devoted, eating all those pots of beans topped with cheddar, sour cream, fresh Jalapenos and sweet onion? The realization set in that I had eaten all those vegetarian pizzas, tofu topped Thai noodles and big salads for nothing! I realized at that cellulite moment, I could sacrifice no more, and became a Pescatarian. I rationalized fish didn't have too many feelings, and so I would now have to make my semi-sacrifice eating spicy mayo laden sushi rolls and tartar sauce dipped fish & chips. I was doing good for the planet and that was important. God knows I tried!
After a year of it, and thoroughly brainwashed into the disgust of flesh, I was the worst version of myself ever! I finally made the announcement, I had to save myself, I was going back to eating the way I knew I should be eating. It wasn't easy to return to normal, as I continually visualized consuming flesh and feelings. I still have a conscience about that.
Many years forward, I know I made the right decision. I now support my animal friends, by spending the extra money to support a more humane life for animals raised for our food supply, by buying pasture raised and grass fed meats, and I am grateful to them for my good health.
Are we meant to be meat eaters? I believe so. Besides our bodies being a "temple of God", and needing to be the salt of the earth, we are part of a food chain. We are allowed to eat meat and we are expected to eat crickets if need be. We are not suppose to be glutinous, wasteful or ungrateful.
I watch a survival show called Naked & Afraid, and this particular episode was the best comparison i have ever seen as to how the vegetarian and meat eating diets compare. Usually you see a fat person losing tons of weight being a vegetarian, supposedly proving the vegetarian's point. I like this comparison where a longtime active vegetarian comes into the challenge with her soft body and an active meat eater comes in with his muscular body and the two continue on their respective paths. They both lost close to the same amount of weight, with her eating her plant matter and him forcing down undesirable proteins. The challenge was for two weeks and neither of them was particularly active during the challenge, trying to conserve energy because food was scarce.The before and after pictures tell the rest of the story.
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