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Cardenosine - Liquid Product For R&D

Discussion in 'IdeaLabs' started by haidut, Feb 9, 2018.

  1. aquaman

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    What about RMR testing through CO2 production and O2 usage?

    You think too expensive to make it useful? Ie a good capnometet seems to cost $500
     
  2. Mito

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    What do think about urinary metabolites as an indicator of mitochondrial efficiency?
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    Urine tests can offer some insight but I would combine them with a blood test as by themselves they can be unreliable. Similar to the cortisol and serotonin tests, which combined blood with urine 24-hour test to obtain a complete picture.
     
  4. Kyle M

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    Yes, a threshold test makes sense to me.
     
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    I noticed the product is a bit sticky. If I put in my forearms, it sticks to my sweater. Any recommendations on places of application?
     
  6. managing

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    If it is surface sticky, consider swallowing?
     
  7. Such_Saturation

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    If you eat for example vitamin C with the methylene blue, the pee results will be skewed
     
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    I think it is the ATP and succinic acid causing this. Spreading on wider area should reduce the stickiness.
     
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    On your note of urine discoloration. I use 1mg of MB and the next day my urine is a dark green color!
     
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    I've been taking Cardenosine for almost 2 weeks now, 40 drops every other day + 2 drops Oxidal. (Sidenote: I have been taking 2 tablets of Cynomel daily, divided into 4 doses of 1/2 tablet, since 2010. I tried all different adjustments to my diet etc. and for some reason this is the amount I need to function and keep my temps/pulse up. I was exposed to mold and insecticides on and off for the last 4 or so years, which impacted me further. I strongly suspect that my sister and I inherited some mitochondrial thing from my mother since we all have strong symptoms, even since childhood.) Effects: absence of quicksand-like fatigue, mental clarity/general cognitive improvement, emotional/mental lift, increased endurance/muscle weakness seems to be going away, increased appetite (I was only eating 2 small/med meals & 2 snacks per day, until I woke up ravenous at 3am a few nights ago, now I need 3 more substantial meals), premenstrual symptoms associated with estrogen were almost gone - fibrocystic sore breasts, super-heavy period sometimes lasting 2 weeks, irregular etc (I'm turning 51 next month, and perimenopausal), better digestion (had IBS-like symptoms, bloating, gas, diarrhea + slow transit, intolerant of milk proteins), my thumb nails that I had been unable to grow since 2014 due to vertical splitting are beginning to grow out finally. Facial puffiness is going away. Will report on my progress again soon.

    Edit: By the way, I experimented with 13mg doses of methylene blue a little over a year ago, and even at that dose, my pee was at best, green. Never blue.
     
  11. Wagner83

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    Is that all? That's underwhelming.
     
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    I think that's a good sign. It would be nice to get Peat's take on it too.
     
  13. roguesandy

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    What were you expecting in < 10 days?
     
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    Oh wow, this is amazing! Thanks so much for sharing!
     
  15. managing

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    I think Wagner was being sarcastic :):. Thanks for the report!
     
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    I am happy to be a guinea pig. Always been open to experimentation of this sort.
     
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    haidut

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    I guess the only thing I'd suggest is to try with methylene blue (1mg) or B-complex vitamins. Either one, and together probably much more, should be synergistic with Cardenosine.
     
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    Hard to tell with no accompanying emojis!
     
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    The emoticon wouldn't be fun.
     
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    Of course not, how much fun could they possibly be? :clown::dead::depressed::jimlad::bucktooth::vamp:
     
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