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Jennifer said:
Oh thank you, narouz! I'm slowly getting it all sorted out so I feel confident I'll be doing much better in the very near future. I'm glad to hear you're seeing improvements. That's great! :)

I do supplement D3 sporadically, yes.

Funny, I use to eat Ezekial bread and eventually started making my own out of sprouted flours from To Your Health Sprouted Grain Co. So you feel better with grains in your diet? I'm interested for you to expand on what you changed a few months back, if you wouldn't mind?

The regular Peat diet just didn't seem to be working,
so I decided to shake things up.
Very unscientific, I know.
Unfortunately, that's just the way I roll. :cry:

My main problem was I had stopped being able to take enough thyroid meds
to get me out of hypo status.
I'd get palpitations, racing, skipping.

At this same time, I started having digestive issues:
intermittent diarrhea,
poops that felt acidic, irritating my butt.
Severe lower back/hip aches/cramping.

I came to think maybe it was all rooted in gut troubles.
Somehow the gut troubles, endotoxin, linked to palps when trying to dose up
to levels that would get my temps/pulse where they should be.

So I did the changes I mentioned earlier.
They were mainly aimed at the gut, but some where not that focused.

With the sprouted grain bread,
I was operating under the theory that I might have candida overgrowth from antibiotics,
and that I might benefit from cultivating, feeding, growing my good guy bacteria.
Also, in hypo state, digestion is sluggish.
I think all the fiber in the bread irritates the gut enough to stimulate peristalsis:
not ideal but maybe not too bad in certain situations.

The MB was kinda a wildcard because it has complex effects.
It reduces nitric oxide, which probably was part of the cascade of bad effects in my gut.
But it is also has antifungal properties.

The lysine knocks down gut serotonin and does other things--
there's an interesting thread on here about it.

I subtracted nightshades because I remembered that when my problems started
I was regularly eating coconut oil french fries.
And I also noticed that anything with tomato sauce seemed to cause problems.
In a hypo state, lots of things (Peat says) can cause problems, allergic reactions and so on.

Now on the Vitamin D...
There is a very minority view here on the forum
which sees vitamin D supplementation as maybe a bad thing.
After all, it is a hormone, and pretty complex in its actions.
Those rag tag band of rebels point to some research opening room for the interpretation
that vitamin D suppresses the immune system, which can be a bad thing.
I had been taking it for a long time in fairly high doses--5,000 to 10,000,
not everyday but pretty often.
Maybe it was suppressing my immune system and allowing for evildoers to dominate in my gut...?
So I stopped taking it and just rely upon the sun.

The MB (especially in low doses), lysine, and deleting vitamin D are all pretty safe things you might try....
 

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Now, now! A true scientist runs experiments. :)

narouz said:
I think all the fiber in the bread irritates the gut enough to stimulate peristalsis: not ideal but maybe not too bad in certain situations.
I take it the raw carrot salad, fruit or cascara weren't doing the trick?

narouz said:
The MB was kinda a wildcard because it has complex effects.
It reduces nitric oxide, which probably was part of the cascade of bad effects in my gut. But it is also has antifungal properties.
Right! VoS and I have discussed MB and its anti-microbial properties.

And good to know about the lysine. I'll look for that thread. Thanks!

narouz said:
In a hypo state, lots of things (Peat says) can cause problems, allergic reactions and so on.
Yeah, don't I know it! :roll:

I too had a problem with tomato sauce. It made the rash flare and I assume it's because it's acidic.

Funny, during my stint with RBTI, I was told not to supplement vitamin D. I prefer morning sun myself. It feels good and I've read the sun has anti-viral effects. So now, is it supplementation that suppresses the immune system or vitamin D in general?

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The MB (especially in low doses), lysine, and deleting vitamin D are all pretty safe things you might try....
Perfect! Thank you for taking the time to outline your current routine, narouz. I appreciate it!

And thanks, jyb for sharing your experience. My friend has athlete's foot and was thinking about an apple cider vinegar/baking soda foot bath because she can't get flowers of sulphur. I'll let her know you saw positive results with the vinegar.
 
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Some science experiment!
Introduce like 15 variables at one time! :lol:

Yeah, with the carrot salad, my body/instincts
were practically screaming at me not to eat it.
While at the same time I really craved some toast with butter, so...

Methylene Blue baby, Methylene Blue.
Don't be scared.
More complex than just the anti-microbial and anti-fungal properties.
Anti-nitric oxide, for one important thing.

The lysine I think may've also been key.
Check out the thread here.
Many, including haidut as I recall, reported strong effects on gut,
like being able to eat formerly troublesome foods without problems.
Other effects too.
A very interesting nutrient, and safe too as far as I can tell.

About the vitamin D as supplement vs via the sun, Jennifer...
Suikerbuik is sorta the leader of the rag tag band of minority Vit D rebels here. :lol:
I'm not sure exactly how he sees that.
I've been wondering myself.
I've been approaching it as a supplement problem.
As I understand it,
the supplement forms do not match the form made by the skin with proper sun.
Which is a sulphur-containing form.
So I just stopped with the supplementation
and have been trying to get sun when possible.
I'm not able to get it consistently (work),
but even so
over the last month
my vitamin D lab test went from 23 to 34 despite no supplementation.
 

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Jennifer said:
And thanks, jyb for sharing your experience. My friend has athlete's foot and was thinking about an apple cider vinegar/baking soda foot bath because she can't get flowers of sulphur. I'll let her know you saw positive results with the vinegar.
Yes to vinegar. Baking soda may make it grow, so I'd avoid that - according to both my experience and the theory that fungi like alkaline environments, and not acid ones.
 

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Thanks, narouz for sharing!

15 variables at one time means you like a challenge. :mrgreen:

And thank you, tara!

I'll let my friend know to avoid the baking soda. It makes sense that its alkalinity could pose a problem.
 
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Kinda forgot about this thread.
Popping back in to share an interesting tidbit.
I've discussed in various threads how I believe I've been struggling with a gut fungal infestation
going on a couple of years now.
Starting to turn the tide I hope in the last months
once I recognized what I was dealing with (hard if you're a Peatian,
since Peat doesn't seem to believe in gut fungal infestations...)
and trying some different anti-yeast/fungi supplements.

But anyhow.
For now I just wanted to post this little thing
and hopefully I will return to this thread and post my Candida Roundup.

So since I've been using various things to combat the intestinal fungus,
my tongue has been like 90% better--not coated, cleaner and pinker.
It changes, but it often still has a light coating. Well...

...I happened to pick up several packs of ginger candies at Whole Paycheck the other day.
And I've been sucking on them, chewing them pretty voraciously at work most of the day.
The first day I noticed my tongue was feeling kinda tingley
so I checked it in the mirror.
Although that morning it had some slight coating,
now about half my tongue was clean as a vistle.
Forgot about my tongue after that.
At work today, sucking on the ginger candies.
Noticed my tongue tingling again.
Checked mirror: wow. Tongue super clean. Absolutely clean and pink.

Just popping about on the web I came across this:
http://www.thecandidadiet.com/ginger-antifungal/

Noticed too that I had a little ache in the cecal region,
and some loose and a bit stinky poops.
I think the ginger may be having an effect down lower in the intestines,
and the die-off betokens some desirable disruption.
 
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Niacin, zinc, glutamine, a hydrogen ioniser and high dose ascorbic acid cured my candida from sugar and low gut ATP.

How did you come to believe you had low gut candida, kin?
 
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Yay for ginger. Delicious. :)
Maybe the acidity of ascorbic acid might be helpful against candida?
 

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Have you tried activated charcoal?

I have some and was considering trying it on my dog. She's had yeast in her ears and paws and vaginally her whole life (~2yrs).
 
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