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I think out of the 2 nolvadex has worked better for mebrother im not sure youre serious anymore. so you already have gyno but estrogen is healthy in your opinion?
also nolvadex and safe?
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I think out of the 2 nolvadex has worked better for mebrother im not sure youre serious anymore. so you already have gyno but estrogen is healthy in your opinion?
also nolvadex and safe?
Wow only 5mg and it workedI have had good experiences in terms of boosting libido using 5mg a day
Occasionally i would only take 20mg a weekWow only 5mg and it worked
And you got good lab results after 20mg a week?Occasionally i would only take 20mg a week
And you got good lab results after 20mg a week?
Yes he said its bad but all i heard was positive results using it i talked to one guy on propecia and he said it got his levels in the upper 900s
Did you ever try Requip?Has anyone here tried mirapex or requip for its dopamine benifits ?
Serotonin is a potent antagonist of steroidogenesis so perhaps using a serotonin antagonist can be helpful.@Hans Hello brother, in case of secondary hypogonadism (where something is happening in the brain = low GnRH levels or LH ; hypothalamus/pituitary) and that not delivering enough material for Testes to produce T what would you recommend from both natural and semi-natural (something isolated but not hindering natural production, such as TRT) perspective ?
I have done some bloodwork on T even as teenager, it was like an old man's at some points. After several years of optimization I've increased it, but seems I have to almost "struggle" / tryhard for normal T levels, which shouldn't be like that when you're 15, 16 or 20 , 21 & etc.
Bloodmarkers change during 4years or so [Ages 16-17 to 20-21]
-- My Estrogen (E2) bloodmarkers were usually in the lowest side of norm,
-- Testosterone - several times was deficient, several times low-moderate, couple of times been in the higher [75-100% lab range]: so usually something like 400-500ng ; been times when it was 600-700 , and maybe 1 or 2 times in the 700-850 range.
-- Prolactin is low side
-- LH - tended to be on the very low side (deficiency), sometimes low-to-moderate - which indicates secondary hhypogonadism?
-- GH - tended to be in the low-moderate side |
-- Thyroid [TSH, fT3,fT4, aTPO] - TSH normal range, fT3 & fT4 in the worst times were deficient ; after nutritional/lifestyle optimization changes increased
-- DHEA on last test was in deficiency (lower than the norm range) ; but last-last time it was in the moderate range [1 day after exercise]
After healthy lifestyle, natural optimization T has increased, but still VERY fluctuating and really have to struggle / tryhard for it.
Any recommendations for biggest bucks in terms of natural optimization? and semi-natural ? (like clomid and those other mentioned that don't create an unhealthy cycle in the body where you can't produce it anymore). Thank you !!!
Yes it rose from 490 to 638. I felt no difference or measured again though.1. Did you Test levels rise?
2. Effect on libido/erections
3.how did you feel mentally
4.what dose did you take
5. Did it lower E
Serotonin is a potent antagonist of steroidogenesis so perhaps using a serotonin antagonist can be helpful.
Also make sure your thyroid hormones are optimal and cortisol in range. If you have any digestive issues, get that sorted out.
Cistanche can upregulate kisspeptin, GnRH, LH, etc.
Could you give the main symptoms of high serotonin? Would it be increased due to intestinal irritation, endotoxin, bloating / gas & etc --- as I've been having this unresolving SIBO type of thing, Candida overgrowth for multiple years, despite optimizing my health & lifestyle , nutrition, doing multiple herbal detoxification / intestinal cleansing protocols (short-lived effects ; with relapsing , never actually fixing it fully)Serotonin is a potent antagonist of steroidogenesis so perhaps using a serotonin antagonist can be helpful.
Also make sure your thyroid hormones are optimal and cortisol in range. If you have any digestive issues, get that sorted out.
Cistanche can upregulate kisspeptin, GnRH, LH, etc
@Hans could you check up my last upper post and give your insights? I'd greatly appreciate it, brother.Could you give the main symptoms of high serotonin? Would it be increased due to intestinal irritation, endotoxin, bloating / gas & etc --- as I've been having this unresolving SIBO type of thing, Candida overgrowth for multiple years, despite optimizing my health & lifestyle , nutrition, doing multiple herbal detoxification / intestinal cleansing protocols (short-lived effects ; with relapsing , never actually fixing it fully)
And if that's the source of high serotonin - then what comes to best natural serotonin antagonists (foods / supplements / medications ) , preferrably natural, without any side effects?
Interesting on Cistanche - I'll need to research a little bit more , but sounds interesting, do you have a good sum-up article to share-recommend ? Checked on your website ( as you give great sum-ups !!! ), but didn't find it.
For now, I'm taking in terms of Testosterone & Pituitary boost : Forskolin (started again just recently), Saffran + Rhodiola extract ; Creatine Monohydrate (3-6g) ; Bioactive minerals with fulvic & humic acids and Bioactive B-group vits ; full spectrum [tocotrienols + tocopherols] vitamin E... Also now taking adrenal , thyroid, spleen, pituitary glandulars.
In past I've taken Ashwagandha KSM-66 extract, which seemed to work for me great as an adaptogen, but also increased metabolism, thyroid levels, made me more calm, and even increased LH & T as confirmed by my lab test results... Boron ( Trace minerals research ) - I've also had positive noticeable effects.
I'm mostly interested in the stimulation of hormones at the brain level as I seem to have trouble there - not sure about the levels of GnRH, but LH used to be deficint or at the low side even when I was a teenager. If you know any possible causes of malfunction there I'd be curious too. Could serotonin as you said block hypothalamus / pituitary function somehow? Anything else you'd seem to be the cause ?
I've read some studies and heard good results on Testosterone on Mucuna Pruriens, Tongkat Ali, Horny Goat Weed, high quality Tribulus Terrestris. What is your take on those ?
Mostly interested in which of these stimulate GnRH & LH as it seems my problems lie in the hypofunction of these brain glands as my testes seem to respond and create T even though levels of LH are quite low, so if I increase them (as it was with Ashwagandha) it gets very good. Interested to try something else !
And lastly in terms of stimulating GnRH / LH ; hypothalamus / pituitary function do you have any natural-semi/natural medications to recommend without side effects (maybe Clomid?) in terms if gut detox protocol and herbals wouldn't help to boost the GnRH / LH ?
Thank you, @Hans, brother. Cheers and keep up the great work, huge support for you !!!
@Hans Hello brother, in case of secondary hypogonadism (where something is happening in the brain = low GnRH levels or LH ; hypothalamus/pituitary) and that not delivering enough material for Testes to produce T what would you recommend from both natural and semi-natural (something isolated but not hindering natural production, such as TRT) perspective ?
I have done some bloodwork on T even as teenager, it was like an old man's at some points. After several years of optimization I've increased it, but seems I have to almost "struggle" / tryhard for normal T levels, which shouldn't be like that when you're 15, 16 or 20 , 21 & etc.
Bloodmarkers change during 4years or so [Ages 16-17 to 20-21]
-- My Estrogen (E2) bloodmarkers were usually in the lowest side of norm,
-- Testosterone - several times was deficient, several times low-moderate, couple of times been in the higher [75-100% lab range]: so usually something like 400-500ng ; been times when it was 600-700 , and maybe 1 or 2 times in the 700-850 range.
-- Prolactin is low side
-- LH - tended to be on the very low side (deficiency), sometimes low-to-moderate - which indicates secondary hhypogonadism?
-- GH - tended to be in the low-moderate side |
-- Thyroid [TSH, fT3,fT4, aTPO] - TSH normal range, fT3 & fT4 in the worst times were deficient ; after nutritional/lifestyle optimization changes increased
-- DHEA on last test was in deficiency (lower than the norm range) ; but last-last time it was in the moderate range [1 day after exercise]
After healthy lifestyle, natural optimization T has increased, but still VERY fluctuating and really have to struggle / tryhard for it.
Any recommendations for biggest bucks in terms of natural optimization? and semi-natural ? (like clomid and those other mentioned that don't create an unhealthy cycle in the body where you can't produce it anymore). Thank you !!!
All the herbs that you're using should increase GnRH and LH and increase T. But I'd say the thing that would make the biggest difference would be thyroid, since you mentioned your T4 and T3 were low. Even mid-range for T3 should be considered as low.Could you give the main symptoms of high serotonin? Would it be increased due to intestinal irritation, endotoxin, bloating / gas & etc --- as I've been having this unresolving SIBO type of thing, Candida overgrowth for multiple years, despite optimizing my health & lifestyle , nutrition, doing multiple herbal detoxification / intestinal cleansing protocols (short-lived effects ; with relapsing , never actually fixing it fully)
And if that's the source of high serotonin - then what comes to best natural serotonin antagonists (foods / supplements / medications ) , preferrably natural, without any side effects?
Interesting on Cistanche - I'll need to research a little bit more , but sounds interesting, do you have a good sum-up article to share-recommend ? Checked on your website ( as you give great sum-ups !!! ), but didn't find it.
For now, I'm taking in terms of Testosterone & Pituitary boost : Forskolin (started again just recently), Saffran + Rhodiola extract ; Creatine Monohydrate (3-6g) ; Bioactive minerals with fulvic & humic acids and Bioactive B-group vits ; full spectrum [tocotrienols + tocopherols] vitamin E... Also now taking adrenal , thyroid, spleen, pituitary glandulars.
In past I've taken Ashwagandha KSM-66 extract, which seemed to work for me great as an adaptogen, but also increased metabolism, thyroid levels, made me more calm, and even increased LH & T as confirmed by my lab test results... Boron ( Trace minerals research ) - I've also had positive noticeable effects.
I'm mostly interested in the stimulation of hormones at the brain level as I seem to have trouble there - not sure about the levels of GnRH, but LH used to be deficint or at the low side even when I was a teenager. If you know any possible causes of malfunction there I'd be curious too. Could serotonin as you said block hypothalamus / pituitary function somehow? Anything else you'd seem to be the cause ?
I've read some studies and heard good results on Testosterone on Mucuna Pruriens, Tongkat Ali, Horny Goat Weed, high quality Tribulus Terrestris. What is your take on those ?
Mostly interested in which of these stimulate GnRH & LH as it seems my problems lie in the hypofunction of these brain glands as my testes seem to respond and create T even though levels of LH are quite low, so if I increase them (as it was with Ashwagandha) it gets very good. Interested to try something else !
And lastly in terms of stimulating GnRH / LH ; hypothalamus / pituitary function do you have any natural-semi/natural medications to recommend without side effects (maybe Clomid?) in terms if gut detox protocol and herbals wouldn't help to boost the GnRH / LH ?
Thank you, @Hans, brother. Cheers and keep up the great work, huge support for you !!!
Thank you. I just don't understand how can thyroid increase help? -Yes that will boost metabolism , but when the problem is at the brain level (low levels of GnRH - LH ) does the thyroid have any effect for those brain gland, hypothalamus and pituitary ? I doubt so or I may be wrong.All the herbs that you're using should increase GnRH and LH and increase T. But I'd say the thing that would make the biggest difference would be thyroid, since you mentioned your T4 and T3 were low. Even mid-range for T3 should be considered as low.
Alternative, vitamin K2 with pansterone can boost testosterone production and potentially also increase LH.
Serotonin symptoms include: The High Serotonin Personality » MENELITE
Thank you. I just don't understand how can thyroid increase help? -Yes that will boost metabolism , but when the problem is at the brain level (low levels of GnRH - LH ) does the thyroid have any effect for those brain gland, hypothalamus and pituitary ? I doubt so or I may be wrong.
What is your opinion on Mucuna Pruriens, Tongkat Ali, Horny Goat Weed, high quality Tribulus Terrestris for increasing GnRH & LH (and then, consequently, T) ? Are they effective, worth it herbals?
Thank you. I just don't understand how can thyroid increase help? -Yes that will boost metabolism , but when the problem is at the brain level (low levels of GnRH - LH ) does the thyroid have any effect for those brain gland, hypothalamus and pituitary ? I doubt so or I may be wrong.
What is your opinion on Mucuna Pruriens, Tongkat Ali, Horny Goat Weed, high quality Tribulus Terrestris for increasing GnRH & LH (and then, consequently, T) ? Are they effective, worth it herbals?