Buying A Heatlamp, Any Advice Appreciated

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Mittir said:
That is an interesting device. Looking at non-English manual i can only
understand they have red lights between 530-570 nm and blue light
between 430-470 nm. I do not know about the exact equivalence of
red light from this 60 watt red LED and 250 incandescent.
Since LED light has much higher lumen per watt than incandescent
it is possible you are getting more red light in that 530-570 region
than from 250 incandescent.

Sorry forgot it was in Swedish. But yeah, basically its a floodlight with RGB led and you can choose the color, and it is possible to set it to only red, so i suppose it would be only 630 nm light with that option. I dont know the lumen on this one tho.

I also found DIY kits on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-100-Watt-r ... 20dba5a64c
But id prefer to not assemble myself, but im considering it. Its a lot cheaper that way.
These kinda are around 5-6000 lumen which seems superstrong. Should be effective.

But, do you know how it is with those kind of lights and the affect on eyes?
 

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That looks like a good source of red light and not that expensive.
I have seen youtube videos on how to make those things, may be cheaper.
About looking directly into lights, RP has mentioned to look at incandescent
light directly for short period of time ( can not remember if he said
few seconds or few minutes) to get more red light directly into eyes.
There are several studies that are using red light therapy for eye
disease. I am not sure about the length and intensity of those light.
Blue and ultra violets are known to cause eye damage.
I do not see any reason for eye damage from using this kind
red LED lights. I think it is better not to stare at these red light
for long time until you can find out for sure if there is any problem with it.
 
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After some time ive decided to first go with a heat lamp just because its easier.
I ordered the appropriate holder, but when i was gonna order the bulbs, the price was ridiculously raised so im looking at other brands, but most of them are colored red. Found this one tho which also seems to have a really good spectrum

http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/in ... g_spot.php

Only 150w but ill get two for now. Maybe 2 more later or LED.
 

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The wavelength chart did not mention what is the specific source of light.
I have seen incandescent bulbs with different color temperature with
different wavelength chart. Color temperature of 50 watt is
2480 and 150 watt has 2680. Lower color temperature means more
visible red light than visible blue light. Anything below 2800 is fine.
 
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But the chart shows very low blue and a lot more red which should be good right.
Source, do you mean the material?
 

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By source ,i meant they should have mentioned that chart is for 150 watt 2680 K
bulb or 50 watt 2480 K . My understanding is that these are regular incandescent bulb
meant for 120 volts. Heat lamps would have 120-130 volt range.
You can ask them which bulb has that wavelength. But i think their 150 watt bulb
is good and that 50 watt one is probably bit better.
 
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Mittr, sorry, im still a bit confused.
Looking at this NM spectrum chart http://www.exo-terra.com/en/products/in ... g_spot.php
It seems like the red part is way more than blue.
So thats a good thing right.
There are a small %age of Blue and UV, like really low at the 400nm area.
I think ive heard that ray says that the incandescants are fine since they have more red than blue.
So since this bulb has way more red than blue or UV, it would be a good choice right?
I also read RP quote on functionalps that the benefits of red offsets blue (they talked about sunlight) so sun is good even tho there is blue light (as long as you dont get a lot of sunburns etc of course).
Adding that to the reasoning, even lamps with some UV would be good as long as the UV is not extreme and caus some kind of sun-burn reaction.

Am i completely wrong in my thinking?
I find light to be very confusing especially here since incandescants are banned and all "normal incandescants" in the stores are replaced with halogen and bad LEDs.
 

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He mentioned that ratio of red to blue is a factor.
But, i do not know if that goes for UV radiation or not.
I would try to avoid UV source as much as possible.
I have read studies that found regular incandescent bulb also radiate
a small amount of UV-A.
That graph looks pretty good.
My only concern is the description of their products.
They are also advertising how their bulb emits UVA.
My understanding is that bulb of different color temperature
should have different graph. It seems like incandescent heat lamp
is a better choice. Earlier on the thread you posted
some of those heat lamps link. You also posted some LED
bulbs with low color temperature, those should be quite
good too. LED light should be free of any UV.
Here is an interesting youtube video showing how different
bulbs have UV rays. He showed LED and regular incandescent
had almost no UV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TJYkhP8gQ
 
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I did wanna buy the one I posted earlier but the price got a lot higher so I can't get those, plus they ship only to businesses. I'll look for similar to those but from other shops. Unfortunately I've got 150W holders now so I have to fit the W into that :p at least for now
 
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I never found a socket for more than 150w where i live, so i use 150w lamp.
 

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Cool. Do you have any links to the products you bought? I can't find a socket for the lamp I bought...
 

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Can anyone recommend a heat lamp preferably one that would be very easy to position over a pet/person laying on a couch, bed, or the floor and tall enough to warm the shoulders if sitting in a chair. I am partial to those which are very tall with a sturdy base versus a clamp on version as I can never seem to find a place to clamp one that a pet wouldn't touch it and a small table lampt type would tip too easily. I prefer it to heat and light but for me to be able to change the bulbs. I am totally confused on this subject so rather than someone trying to tell me why one is better than another, I just want a good recommendation preferably under $200.

Thank you!
 

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You may want to checkout www.resonantfm.com he has some setup examples up there.

I've used infrared heat lamps to build a sauna but now just use a 250w brooder lamp and position as needed: on shelf far away for general light, clipped to laptop for face and head applications, coffee table/couch for hand use while watching tv....

Brooder lamp and bulb setup for $30
 

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Hello - I am researching Light therapy for my children and myself. To be honest - the more reading I am doing. . . the more confused I am becoming. This is new to me and I am hoping this message reaches someone who might be able to clearly direct me to the best, deepest penetrating and most effective light bulb. We are needing this for therapy for the brain. I am needing to keep cost down as much as possible and therefore began researching how to provide light therapy at home - without buying a infrared sauna. I have read about brooding light bulbs, LED light bulbs and incandescent light bulbs - which will provide the deepest penetration into the body's tissue please? If anyone has a link to a bulb this would be much appreciated - greatly!!! Thank you!
 
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