Brexit Is Very Unfortunate Thing For EU Peaters, Here's Why

[yerrag]

UK was less restrictive (after Brexit, not so much) . Everything went through customs and was allowed to ship forward. Thyroid, antibiotics, cypro, hell even things like Aromasin etc. all flew swiftly without issuses.

That's tough. Is it as hard whether it's from the EU or from the US?

 

[Dobbler]

That's tough. Is it as hard whether it's from the EU or from the US?

I don't live in UK. I used UK as a packet forwarding country. I ordered thyroid couple times from US to UK and never had any issues.

 

[yerrag]

I don't live in UK. I used UK as a packet forwarding country. I ordered thyroid couple times from US to UK and never had any issues.

Oh ok. I also use a forwarding service that allows items to be shipped to Italy or L. A. But lately they've added essential oils to their list of prohibited items. It's nicer to use a forwarding service as the postal system is unreliable or very slow.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Peat is a socialist.

I don't think so. I've never heard Peat claim such a thing. Do you have an interview or a piece of his writing that you are basing this on?

Socialism needs a strong central authority to work. Peat constantly is talking about the individual, and is very anti-authoritarian.

 

[Rafael Lao Wai]

I don't think so. I've never heard Peat claim such a thing. Do you have an interview or a piece of his writing that you are basing this on?

Socialism needs a strong central authority to work. Peat constantly is talking about the individual, and is very anti-authoritarian.

Then Peat would be closer to an anarchist than to a socialist, right? But I don't recall him calling himself an anarchist either.

 

[Gone Peating]

Then Peat would be closer to an anarchist than to a socialist, right? But I don't recall him calling himself an anarchist either.

You don’t have to put a label on yourself. I think it’s unnecessary.

 

[LeeLemonoil]

You don’t have to put a label on yourself. I think it’s unnecessary.

This. I think Peat clearly leans toward a „leftwing“ (label) utopia of society while knowing that it cannot happen. He is a socialist thus. But in the sense of the Original philosophical meaning. Not in how every self-labeled socialist totalitarian regime turned out. Thing is, you can’t das socialist to most Americans since they are indoctrinated to the latter meaning of the word.
I‘m no socialist and not here to defend them but semantics are necessary in the discussion especially when Americans and Europeans are engaged to which’s ears it sounds very different. It even sounds different to romanic/southern Europeans and Germanic / Northern Europeans and so forth.
Peat would like to see a liberal society of happy and healthy people but he surely knows that isn’t possible and every top-down attempt is bounds to end in dictatorship. He is a Anti-Pufalist though. Clean label. Hardcore Androgenist. Dopaminican Republic. Not easily sold on climate-histameryia

 

[Mauritio]

Please post Eastern European source. EU customs are a special kind of evil

I ordered at that site. I figured it must be eastern europe ,because it was a bit too fast for oversees shipping.
Generic Zofran (Ondansetron) - Krebs - clubsdiscountshop.com

this is also a good one
MOSPharma.com

 

[sunraiser]

I don't think so. I've never heard Peat claim such a thing. Do you have an interview or a piece of his writing that you are basing this on?

Socialism needs a strong central authority to work. Peat constantly is talking about the individual, and is very anti-authoritarian.

Socialism doesn't require a strong central authority, it requires democratisation of workplaces so workers have control over their lives and wellbeing instead of plutocratic power.

The state merely acts as a mediator in this regard.

I have a few paragraphs that brought me to that conclusion on Peat but I'll have to find them tomorrow. He mentions he was investigated by the government for being a suspected communist.

 

[S-VV]

I ordered at that site. I figured it must be eastern europe ,because it was a bit too fast for oversees shipping.
Generic Zofran (Ondansetron) - Krebs - clubsdiscountshop.com

this is also a good one
MOSPharma.com

Thanks bro

I have used mospharma several times, always came trough.

 

[Dobbler]

I wonder what the future of online "OTC" pharmacies will be. Up until now i think things have been going up and ordering stuff online has steadily improved and never been easier. Losing UK is a big hit but im hoping new sites pop in Europe to fill the spots.

 

[Vinny]

Nootropicsjet is a good polish vendor for some hard to get stuff

For nootropics also:
neopharmacies.com

He,s got some good quality stuff. Ships from EU to everywhere. Reliable vendor.

 

[sunraiser]

Socialism doesn't require a strong central authority, it requires democratisation of workplaces so workers have control over their lives and wellbeing instead of plutocratic power.

The state merely acts as a mediator in this regard.

I have a few paragraphs that brought me to that conclusion on Peat but I'll have to find them tomorrow. He mentions he was investigated by the government for being a suspected communist.

It's from this interview:

On culture, government, and social class

He laments the removal of class awareness from politics and the way it has been completely marginalised since thatcher and raegan in the uk and us.

Class struggle is pretty much the entirety of idea behind socialism.

I guess we don't have to define him but anyone that acknowledges the necessity of class awareness and solidarity with their peers is someone I can strongly relate to as a socialist.

 

[Gone Peating]

It's from this interview:

On culture, government, and social class

He laments the removal of class awareness from politics and the way it has been completely marginalised since thatcher and raegan in the uk and us.

Class struggle is pretty much the entirety of idea behind socialism.

I guess we don't have to define him but anyone that acknowledges the necessity of class awareness and solidarity with their peers is someone I can strongly relate to as a socialist.

You can’t force/legislate love and good will towards others on someone. That has to come from within

 

[yerrag]

It's from this interview:

On culture, government, and social class

He laments the removal of class awareness from politics and the way it has been completely marginalised since thatcher and raegan in the uk and us.

Class struggle is pretty much the entirety of idea behind socialism.

I guess we don't have to define him but anyone that acknowledges the necessity of class awareness and solidarity with their peers is someone I can strongly relate to as a socialist.

I can't relate in this way.

Socialism plus society is just as bad as capitalism plus society. It just has more eye candy.

 

[tankasnowgod]

It's from this interview:

On culture, government, and social class

He laments the removal of class awareness from politics and the way it has been completely marginalised since thatcher and raegan in the uk and us.

Class struggle is pretty much the entirety of idea behind socialism.

I guess we don't have to define him but anyone that acknowledges the necessity of class awareness and solidarity with their peers is someone I can strongly relate to as a socialist.

I have no idea how you formed that opinion based on that article. You seem to be reading words that aren't there.

I also don't know why you picked Reagan as an arbitrary end point for class awareness in politics, when Peat explicitly states he believes that end point was 1944, with Truman being forced as the VP, and the end of WW2.

Direct quote from Peat from the article-

"I think much of the outrage concerning Trump’s election is driven by his clear opposition to war with Russia, and his protectionist opposition to “globalization.” Those issues are essential for the ruling class, so everything will be done to interfere with any attempt Trump makes to change the empire’s course.

No US president has ever opposed capital punishment or nuclear weapons, and any verbal opposition to militarism has been hypocritical. Eisenhower’s belated 1961 warning about the military-industrial complex followed 8 years of trying to make “preventive” nuclear destruction of the Soviet Union possible, and the destruction of democratic or independent governments in Iran, Guatemala, Thailand, Laos, the Congo, Turkey, and the preparation of an invasion of Cuba; Kennedy’s campaign called for a more aggressive militarism. I think any resurgence of authoritarianism in the US could be dated from the 1944 Democratic Party convention, that imposed Harry Truman as vice president. There was a slight respite under Carter, during which, with Brzezinski’s guidance, the US created the mujahideen (precursor to Al-Qaeda) to depose Afghanistan’s secular government, and its policy of equal rights for women.

Presidents, including Clinton and Obama, have been saying that the US is a post-racist society, and that no remedial federal activity is needed. Now the Democrats have the partisan stimulus to start advocating concrete measures to improve the situation for blacks and other minorities, things that they opposed when they had opportunities.

The huge amount of money the CIA had from the Marshall Plan allowed them, starting around 1950, to shape the culture and political movements in the US, providing carrots to complement the FBI’s sticks. Their biggest achievement has probably been to obliterate coherent thinking about "the meaning of “left” and “right” in politics. People with policies very much like Mussolini’s call themselves liberals, and promote war. The culture has been shaped to exclude the idea of class from political thinking. Several years ago, when John Edwards’ spoke of social class issues during his campaign for the presidency, the media immediately stopped treating him as a viable candidate. Trump’s focus on class issues helped to enfuriate his opposition, but didn’t stop people from voting. If class becomes a continuing part of political discussion, it might lead toward a restoration of democracy."

 

[sunraiser]

You can’t force/legislate love and good will towards others on someone. That has to come from within

The love isn't what you legislate - the legislation is simply to stop exploitation. An individual wants to buy all the property in an area and set prices for rent? We can't legislate for him to care, but we can stop them from exploitating collective freedoms by limiting his personal freedom to exploit others. Same scenario for water sources.

A person born into wealth wants to start a business in an area with high poverty and low opportunity so they can exploit the desperation? You legislate for minimum wage and use state power to strongly encourage union membership to empower worker bargaining.

You don't enforce love, you just create barriers against exploitation so social cohesion thrives over sociopathy. This is how the highest quality of life and happiness countries operate. Even Cuba has the same life expectancy as the USA despite a fraction of the wealth.

 

[sunraiser]

I have no idea how you formed that opinion based on that article. You seem to be reading words that aren't there.

I also don't know why you picked Reagan as an arbitrary end point for class awareness in politics, when Peat explicitly states he believes that end point was 1944, with Truman being forced as the VP, and the end of WW2.

Direct quote from Peat from the article-

"I think much of the outrage concerning Trump’s election is driven by his clear opposition to war with Russia, and his protectionist opposition to “globalization.” Those issues are essential for the ruling class, so everything will be done to interfere with any attempt Trump makes to change the empire’s course.

No US president has ever opposed capital punishment or nuclear weapons, and any verbal opposition to militarism has been hypocritical. Eisenhower’s belated 1961 warning about the military-industrial complex followed 8 years of trying to make “preventive” nuclear destruction of the Soviet Union possible, and the destruction of democratic or independent governments in Iran, Guatemala, Thailand, Laos, the Congo, Turkey, and the preparation of an invasion of Cuba; Kennedy’s campaign called for a more aggressive militarism. I think any resurgence of authoritarianism in the US could be dated from the 1944 Democratic Party convention, that imposed Harry Truman as vice president. There was a slight respite under Carter, during which, with Brzezinski’s guidance, the US created the mujahideen (precursor to Al-Qaeda) to depose Afghanistan’s secular government, and its policy of equal rights for women.

Presidents, including Clinton and Obama, have been saying that the US is a post-racist society, and that no remedial federal activity is needed. Now the Democrats have the partisan stimulus to start advocating concrete measures to improve the situation for blacks and other minorities, things that they opposed when they had opportunities.

The huge amount of money the CIA had from the Marshall Plan allowed them, starting around 1950, to shape the culture and political movements in the US, providing carrots to complement the FBI’s sticks. Their biggest achievement has probably been to obliterate coherent thinking about "the meaning of “left” and “right” in politics. People with policies very much like Mussolini’s call themselves liberals, and promote war. The culture has been shaped to exclude the idea of class from political thinking. Several years ago, when John Edwards’ spoke of social class issues during his campaign for the presidency, the media immediately stopped treating him as a viable candidate. Trump’s focus on class issues helped to enfuriate his opposition, but didn’t stop people from voting. If class becomes a continuing part of political discussion, it might lead toward a restoration of democracy."

Those are very selective quotes. I don't think Peat is under any illusion that a born into wealth billionaire like Trump is really fighting for class politics - it was simply successful rhetoric. He mentions at the end of the article he hopes the Trump election causes a huge political awakening.

Nobody is suggesting the corporate wing of the dem party have anything to do with socialism. I'm pretty sure anyone interested in politics that is interested enough in the whole article will understand what I mean when I say RP is a socialist.

 

[LeeLemonoil]

I wonder if Peat would think that identity politics is a means of interested elites to undermine class awareness or if he thinks, like some lefties, that identity politics really are a legit left concern.

To me it’s clear it’s devised to deflect and derail from class struggle. Divide and rule.

 

[tankasnowgod]

Those are very selective quotes. I don't think Peat is under any illusion that a born into wealth billionaire like Trump is really fighting for class politics - it was simply successful rhetoric. He mentions at the end of the article he hopes the Trump election causes a huge political awakening.

Nobody is suggesting the corporate wing of the dem party have anything to do with socialism. I'm pretty sure anyone interested in politics that is interested enough in the whole article will understand what I mean when I say RP is a socialist.

Selective quotes? That was basically one fifth of the interview. I read the entire article (multiple times, as I have seen this interview before) and still don't know what you are referring to. The part I quoted seems to go directly against what you claim. I really don't know what you are basing that idea on.

Peat doesn't seem to be a fan of most American politicians, neither Democrat nor Republican. The two Democrats he seemed to slightly praise (Carter and John Edwards) aren't socialists.

And he also states this in the interview- "The wars for empire are now the leading business of government, and if the economic nationalists can stop them that will be a big step in the right direction."

This quote seems to go directly against your original claim that Brexit itself was not in line with Peat's ideas.