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The yeast in brewers yeast is not activated. It does have a lot of stuff that can do a body good if you can get it in and keep things calm. Take an anti-histamine the first time with it and see how it goes. As you heal and calm things down, I would mix the brewers yeast in the water with some sugar when drinking it, and chase it with some caffeine. I am pretty positive you have histamine tolerance. If so sugar, salt and caffeine are your best friends. I have it worse than you, but you wouldn't know it know, as I am healthier than anyone I know now. Food pairing is important in the "Peat" world, and more so with histamine Intolerance. I grew up as a child drinking brewers yeast everyday and my dad swears it saved my life. ?
Histamine issues are a sure thing for me.
For how long?
I have been dealing histamine intolerance for at least 7 years, since discovering the term. I could write a book on it. It wasn't until reading a Ray Peat paper, stating that sugar, salt and caffeine are antihistamines, and Mexican Coke even more so, that I could finally get off the constant Claratin. In Ray Peat's words, spikenband written, he talks of a study that was done and resulted in a bold statement that Coke (guzzled) is more effective than the Epi-Pen! Including a couple of those items, sugar, salt, caffeine, or Coke, throughout my day, pairing it with high histamine foods has unlocked the door to beingvable to eat anything without a problem! Most importantly though is to keep that imaginary histamine "bucket" inside yourself from spilling over into symptoms. So though I indulge in anything i care to, I am mindful not to push my luck either, filling my "bucket" up with TOO many high histamine foods. I strategize my day having high histamine oranges and gelatin by puting sugar and salt in it, rather than having it alone in water, which gave me an instant flush and 'off" feeling. I have caffeine with ground beef as an antihistamine as well as blocking iron and make custard which has sugar, salt and minus the high histamine egg whites, etc. As far as how bad mine was, I experienced angioedema in my sleep with my face and lips tripled in size and my tongue swollen outside my mouth and unable put it back in, sometimes nonstop vomiting out of the blue without any nausea or stomach trouble (that happened twice from restaurant alfredo sauce), a variety of rashes, lots of puffy eyes, sinus trouble, migraines, insomnia, and the list goes on. Please pick my brain anytime on the subject because it is a complicated issue with simple solutions ?
Knowing my situation is inspiring to you really makes smile. It is a dirty snowball effect, those histamines, that when you just address one issue at a time other things start falling into place. I do recommend first and foremost to get toothpaste out your life. I never had a problem with it, but when histamine intolerance reared it's ugly head, those rashes and angiodema told me alot of what my body didn't like, and toothpaste of any kind was one of them. I now use coconut oil to brush my teeth, with baking soda on occssion. It takes a little getting use to, but you do. Flouride is another bad one and very hard to get out of our water without removing all the minerals. It is so wearing on our bodies. I got myself a Propur gravity filter, and even make ice with it. Restaurants are the worst, so use salt, sugar and Coke liberally. No large meals for awhile either. The very act of digestion raises histamines, so I enjoy everything I want in smaller portions. Don't view histamines as bad, they are actually a huge part of our immune system. Although you get a lot of weird stuff don't you notice you never catch what's going around? We just are getting TOO MUCH of a good thing. With that being said I eat a lot now, with no fear of food anymore. Baby steps, you'll get there ?
Oh gosh mine could be a number of things. Mom took DES pregnant with me, to prevent another miscarriage, which turned out to me whole hot mess they created over 20 years, with repercussions for generations. It could be many other reason, or an accumulation of several things coming together to create a perfect storm. Maybe we will never know, but thankfully we were designed to self regulate and repair, if given the right tools. Although the "why" would be nice to know, the "what" "when" and "how" is my focus. What to do now, when is the best time to eat this or that, and how much. I can tell you suppliments have not been a big part of getting mine under control. Yes at first they can, but inevitably it backfired in some way or another. Nettle was probably the best of them, making a good antihistamine. I gave it up though because I didn't need it anymore, it darkened my hair too much and it is estrogenic. You are on the right track with small meals. The very act of digestion raises histamines, which are necessary to accomplish the task. Being full is the worst for histamines and the harder it is to digest and longer it takes to do just keeps the histamines coming! I have cut out unnecessary liquids, as they dilute digestive juices which in turn leave things sitting too long. I don't know if I will ever get to drinking all the milk and orange juice Ray Peat does, or even if i want to, as I like variety too much. I am grateful for his sugar, salt, caffeine & Coke ammo, so I can enjoy a glass or two of milk (sugar and salted mmmm) and strained orange juice with my sugar (and now raw honey), salt. I am gonna trying adding in a little mct oil to it, making more of a mini meal out of it and see how it feels. Food logging gave me so many answers, including EMF's being a problem as well as furniture and fabrics with all of their formaldehydes, anti-caking and mold chemicals and too many other poisons to mention, which leach into your skin. Both of the latter, both I suspect might by part of your pain and nerve stuff. Don't assume that all that you have going on is all gonna fit nicely under one umbrella. Some of us are just very in tune to our environment, like me, and sounds like you too! It is the difference between suffering now with the reward later or have it all now and suffer the consequences. I am finally reaping my rewards and am confident mine will be a happier ending.
How do you know he has a histamine tolerance...
Because we have been talking on other threads and there are other foods and issues disclosed. The question wasn't, as you implied, if yeast is estrogenic and I didn't say it wasn't. We have been taking on other thread and as you should reread, I was talking to Motif AGAIN, about BREWER'S YEAST not bakers yeast.
cocoa or dark chocolate contains caffeine.
Yes Brewers yeast:
As Moif and have discussed oxalates too, yes cocoa and dark chocolate are very high in histamine
What are you even talking about? We aren't discussing estrogens or gluten? If we were I am sure your input would be valuable. We have been discussing histamines and oxalates on other threads. Chocolate has caffeine, but is too high in oxalates and histamines to be of any help to lower histamines. If you must know, on another thread between us, I quoted Ray Peat's recommendation on another thread where he said that good things for lowering histamines are caffeine, sugar, salt and mexican coke, and attached an interview clip of him saying so. So you need to put your dog in another fight.
Tested for what ?
I think any suppliment used on a daily basis can cause other imbalances, so I dwindled my use of them down to nothing a year or so ago. One of my girlfriend's has histamine intolerance really bad. She didn't even know she had it until we started talking again last year. She couldn't eat many foods and now is drinking tons of raw goat milk, kefir and cheese, raw acacia honeycomb (like me) and other foods she hasn't been able to eat without reacting violently, getting stomach cramping, diarrhea, hives and such. She just thought she had Crohn's disease and allergies to those foods. She said to me recently that this is the best she has felt in her life, and so shocked about the honey not giving her the usual issues. The more she gets in all that good stuff the more healing she gets. She found these grass fed kidney capsules and says they have been work wonders, ushering her through eating some of her offenders in the beginning until she acclimated to them. I haven't read up much on them or had a need to try them yet, but it might help usher you, and Motif, through some of your scary foods until your body acclimates and heals. She takes 2 to 4 of them just before a meal to provide the DAO that is lacking and needed for digestion. She says it is one of the rare things that provides DAO naturally.
