Beets Vs Raw Carrot Or Activated Charcoal

[johns74]

One of the benefits of the raw carrot is that it binds to bile acids, which helps to excrete them with the toxins they contain.

Here's a paper testing how much different vegetables bind to bile acids, in vitro. Beets bind to bile acids a bit more than twice as carrots.

Relative to cholestyramine, in vitro bile acid binding on a dry matter basis was, for beets, 18%; okra, 16%; eggplant, 14%; asparagus, 10%; carrots, 8%; green beans, 7%; cauliflower, 6%; and turnips, 1%

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Note: Bile acids binding helps to eliminate PFOA and other PFCs (plastic toxins).

 

[johns74]

Time to experiment with beet and carrot salad?

I don't know where to get okra.

 

[Amazoniac]

I wouldn't. They ferment much easier than carrots in our gut.
Interesting to note that Beetroot is contains fructans, so in the Low-FODMAPs diet, they advise to consume with caution.

 

[johns74]

Well, I just had a shredded carrot with a little shredded beetroot, will see what happens.

Raw beetroot binds 10 times more bile than raw carrot, according to the study.

The numbers in the OP refer to steamed presentations, not raw.

 

[lindsay]

Beets are also really good for the liver. But eating them raw????? Yuck!

Just make borsch or salat vinaigrette :)

 

[johns74]

Beets are also really good for the liver. But eating them raw????? Yuck!

It tasted fairly acceptable. Should've had more.

 

[lindsay]

Beets are also really good for the liver. But eating them raw????? Yuck!

It tasted fairly acceptable. Should've had more.

Every time I've tried to eat raw beets in the past, I felt like I was eating dirt. However, I could imagine pickling them first would make them much more palatable. Cooked beets, however, are delicious!

 

[tara]

Salad made of grated carrot, grated beetroot, and sometimes grated apple was a reasonably common dish in my household and town long before I heard of Peat. It's really good. I can't stand too much cooked beetroot, but raw like this is delicious. I could tell I felt better for it. I probably couldn't eat it every day, though. Maybe rinsing the grated beetroot, like I do with carrot, would make it possible for me to eat more frequently.

 

[johns74]

Salad made of grated carrot, grated beetroot, and sometimes grated apple was a reasonably common dish in my household and town long before I heard of Peat. It's really good. I can't stand too much cooked beetroot, but raw like this is delicious. I could tell I felt better for it. I probably couldn't eat it every day, though. Maybe rinsing the grated beetroot, like I do with carrot, would make it possible for me to eat more frequently.

I saw recipes online. There's your natural PFOA and PFC detox that the internet isn't even aware exists (teflon stays in your body forever, they claim, or half life is 4 years).

My guess that is sort of the perfect combination. Bile contains bicarbonate, so if the beetroot excretes it, maybe the apples there come in and act like a precursor to create bicarbonate or keep the pH high some other way.

 

[tara]

Salad made of grated carrot, grated beetroot, and sometimes grated apple was a reasonably common dish in my household and town long before I heard of Peat. It's really good. I can't stand too much cooked beetroot, but raw like this is delicious. I could tell I felt better for it. I probably couldn't eat it every day, though. Maybe rinsing the grated beetroot, like I do with carrot, would make it possible for me to eat more frequently.

I saw recipes online. There's your natural PFOA and PFC detox that the internet isn't even aware exists (teflon stays in your body forever, they claim, or half life is 4 years).

My guess that is sort of the perfect combination. Bile contains bicarbonate, so if the beetroot excretes it, maybe the apples there come in and act like a precursor to create bicarbonate or keep the pH high some other way.

Wonder if it's any better for dragging out the lead and mercury than just the carrot.

 

[johns74]

Wonder if it's any better for dragging out the lead and mercury than just the carrot.

The paper says more bile binds to the raw beets than to the raw carrot, 10 times more, so I guess it's more effective. Whether it removes heavy metals, it depends I think on whether bile contains them. I think bile contains lead, don't know how much though. But for PFOA and PFCs, bile is the main excretion mechanism.

You can also get rid of heavy metals I believe by sweating. In contrast, PFCs aren't eliminated through sweat.

 

[johns74]

After taking the grated beet and carrot salad for two days, my subjective feeling is that it's more powerful than the carrot alone. But I still have to do a lot of variations of amounts, oils, or added salt to see how I like it best.

I think it might excrete a significant amount of bicarbonate from the bile, so one might want to avoid acidic foods for a few hours, or eat fruits to rebuild the bicarbonate in the blood.

 

[BingDing]

Beets are also really good for the liver. But eating them raw????? Yuck!

Just make borsch or salat vinaigrette :)

Just cause I happen to know this, beets have about the highest level of betaine of any food. Betaine is one of the best compounds for getting fat out of the liver and keeping it out.

 

[Blossom]

Beets are also really good for the liver. But eating them raw????? Yuck!

Just make borsch or salat vinaigrette :)

Just cause I happen to know this, beets have about the highest level of betaine of any food. Betaine is one of the best compounds for getting fat out of the liver and keeping it out.

Great tip BingDing!

 

[johns74]

I think I had too much. After using the grated carrot and beetroot salad 3 times in 5 days, I feel weak and without energy. I think it excreted too much bile, and that includes nutrients, maybe taurine.

 

[Such_Saturation]

Carrots and charcoal aren't enough?

<<[...]the theoretical maximum capacity of activated carbon is about 0.9g bile acid to 1g carbon. [...]

Bile acids are clearly avidly absorbed in vitro by activated carbon, and its capacity is similar to that of cholestyramine. [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7392829] [...]

In other human studies by Neuvonen et al. activated carbon has been dosed at levels from 4 to 32 g a day. They determined that a dose of 32 g a day reduced total cholesterol by 29% and LDL cholesterol by 41%. In addition, the level of HDL cholesterol was increased by an average 27%.>> [http://books.google.it/books?hl=it&lr=&id=Q14e1veUp90C&oi=fnd&pg=PA15&dq=active+carbon+sequestrant&ots=e8XDDccC0v&sig=EHEy8g9AceG6vp29DF2n0G_IAPY#v=onepage&q=active%20carbon%20sequestrant&f=false]

 

[johns74]

Carrots and charcoal aren't enough?

I haven't used charcoal.

 

[johns74]

Now I have a reason to at least suspect that beets are a bad idea to use instead of activated charcoal.

It's because the safety of charcoal is better documented. While there haven't been similar studies with beets, the fact that they contain oxalates makes me more cautious. Oxalates bind to minerals, including magnesium. In one study, charcoal didn't produce magnesium deficiency. Beets potentially could bind more magnesium, which is secreted in bile, and typically reabsorbed in part. The reabsorption is regulated by our need for magnesium at that moment, but the oxalates could theoretically block it. Maybe the same could happen with other minerals.

 

[ddjd]

Raw beetroot binds 10 times more bile than raw carrot, according to the study.

link to study doesnt seem to be working