Becoming A Man With Peat And Haidut

[Dino D]

No nothing like that. Here's like an example of my fat intake

5-6 eggs with 15-20g butter for breakfast or when ever you like
scrambling your eggs in a lot of butter is a really good way of incorporating a lot of butter without making it too oily

then dinner i can eat like a steak 300-400 gram. I choose cuts with more fat like rib eye or a cheaper alternative chuck roll. You can make really tasty meat just frying a piece of chuck roll it's the same part of the cow they grind to make burger meat. It's quite fatty and again 15-20g butter fried with that.

then if i have potatoes or rice i also dump a bit off butter into that

on top of this I can have a coffee with a considerable amount of honey and coconut oil.

I eat when I'm hungry and there's nothing like I have to eat certain amounts at certain times or what ever. I tend to eat twice a day and bigger meals.

typing in this in cronometer covers both fat and protein intake for the day in the amounts of 40/40/20
On top of this I just eat sugars and carbs as much as I want and can

Are your diet and macros still the same :)

 

[invictus]

Yeah Nofap is a challenge sometimes lol. Honestly I think a 1.5 hour workout is too long especially if your already very active. I keep mine at 45 min as I feel very catabolic after this point. But everyone is different and those who workout a certain way for a while adapt to the training program and it becomes less catabolic. Sprints feel great but its a hassle to do in the gym.

Regarding Nofap, I'm 69, began when I was 12. As I got into my middle and late teens and onward, couple of times a day. Never had a problem with erections or functioning when there was an opportunity. Even had prostatitis on and off and a urologist I saw told me to do it, more, if I couldn't find a woman. NOW, maybe chronic fapping to porn might induce functional problems. That's still being debated, but perhaps visual/physical overstimulation from porn might lead to erectile problems and testosterone/hormonal/neurotransmitter issues. Since the Internet didn't exist when I was young, I was just driven by imagination, fantasies & hormones. Nofap, no way.

 

[dq139]

Regarding Nofap, I'm 69, began when I was 12. As I got into my middle and late teens and onward, couple of times a day. Never had a problem with erections or functioning when there was an opportunity. Even had prostatitis on and off and a urologist I saw told me to do it, more, if I couldn't find a woman. NOW, maybe chronic fapping to porn might induce functional problems. That's still being debated, but perhaps visual/physical overstimulation from porn might lead to erectile problems and testosterone/hormonal/neurotransmitter issues. Since the Internet didn't exist when I was young, I was just driven by imagination, fantasies & hormones. Nofap, no way.

You don't think nofap is good for you?..I personally feel better when retaining my semen. I still think sexual arousing thoughts but I try to control my urges...I don't believe humans where meant to waste they're sperm so frequently as we do now. We evolved only ejaculating to make baby's when we could find a mate.

 

[GreekDemiGod]

Trying to keep both at 40% of my calories. My calori needs if i don't workout is around 2500 give or take 300 calories. But I'm quite ***t at keeping my carbs at 40% would guess im actually more doing 50fat/30carb/20protein.

I am curios. This whole forum is about optimising glucose metabolism. How does a 40% fat intake play into that? Is it possible to keep high temps on such high fat intake? One is likely tapping into fat oxidation at night for sure.
I did a 40-40-20 macro split for a while.

 

[Hgreen56]

Can someone explain to me what happens to testosterone / DHT levels when you go PUFA depletion diet (very low / 0 fat)? Im taking Preg / DHEA mby few times a week.

nothing really, dietary fat have little low to no effect on hormones.
Its excess kcal, eating healthy and some exercise that's stimulate it.

 

[golder]

Is tyler still around? Would love to hear his progress...

 

[AndrogenicJB]

I am curios. This whole forum is about optimising glucose metabolism. How does a 40% fat intake play into that? Is it possible to keep high temps on such high fat intake? One is likely tapping into fat oxidation at night for sure.
I did a 40-40-20 macro split for a while.

How was it?

 

[Sefton10]

I am curios. This whole forum is about optimising glucose metabolism. How does a 40% fat intake play into that? Is it possible to keep high temps on such high fat intake? One is likely tapping into fat oxidation at night for sure.
I did a 40-40-20 macro split for a while.

I was thinking about something similar earlier. I'm asleep for 9pm usually and like to be up at 5am. No issues getting to sleep but I often wake up hot and alert with racing heart around 3.30am. My hands are never warmer than at this point and then they typically will be cold the rest of the day. It's obviously adrenaline/cortisol, probably when liver glycogen runs out in the night. Digestion always seems very active at this time too as there will lots of gurgling and I invariably have my one and only BM of the day pretty soon after getting up and before eating, so maybe an underlying gut issue too.

I got to thinking that liver and muscle is most sensitive to insulin in the morning, so that would seem to be the best time for carbs with regards to refilling glycogen stores. However, if stress hormones are highest at that time too, there is likely some lipolysis/fatty acid oxidation going on. As such, are lots of carbs a bad idea at breakfast as oxidising them is difficult when they are competing with the fat in the bloodstream? Yet how can you reduce the stress hormones without carbs? Likewise, fat is said to be more insulin sensitive later in the day so you would think lots of carbs are worse at night as they are more likely to be stored as fat than oxidised (unless you'd worked out, which is then another issue for sleep), but then how can you ensure adequate liver glycogen to get through until morning?

Georgi's recent podcast where he outlined a day of eating interested me as he specifically mentions front loading his protein in the first part of the day then eating much lower protein later in the day and focussing on sweet foods in order to avoid triggering the insulin/cortisol response in the middle of the night. Overall his diet seems pretty low fat.

 

[tyler]

What’s up dawgs.

Long time no post.. its been about 6 years since my last post here. About time for an update.

I’m 29 now, and a completely different man than the sad boy who originally created this thread 7 years ago.

Sorry to all the people who have messaged me and asked questions. If you’re still around and looking to chat, feel free to hit me up.

Anyway, I’m sitting very comfortably under my bioenergetic umbrella amidst the shitstorm that is the state of the world. Every day is the new greatest I’ve ever felt (which is not to say I don’t still have setbacks). I’ve been lucky enough to have the opportunity to help some other people with Ray’s research and philosophies the past few years too. Full circle.

I’ve since completely recovered my health - especially hormonally. I’ve been using many of the same principles I originally shared. To this day I’ve continued my own research independently and haven’t stopped experimenting. Various foods, ways of eating, eating windows, supplements, compounds, lifestyle practices, training regimens, etc. I’ll tell you what - maintenance is far easier and way more fun than recovery. Sending power to all of you in a dark place. Hope my experience can serve as some light to you.

My current total testosterone sits between 930-1200, and has been up in this range since 2018. Wild to consider I was once at 130, especially as a 21 year old. Stoked to be on the other side. My most recent test reading below.

My thyroid status, estrogen, prolactin, vitamin D, and all other markers remain in good standing also. I get blood work twice per year, but symptoms are far more important to me.

Beyond the dietary measures, addressing my lifestyle was a huge turning point for me. Changing my job to something much less stressful and time consuming was what took my wellbeing to the next level. Moving to a place with more sun and maximizing sun exposure was also a massive step forward. Reading Hans Selye and releasing the burden of other stress in my life (relationships, environments, etc) was as important, if not more, than diet. I wish I focused on this sooner.

I currently sit at 180 lbs and am slowly increasing in weight. My body composition is fairy lean and has pretty much stayed this way throughout my journey. I continue to put on muscle without doing much, if any, hypertrophy training. My facial structure has shifted dramatically along with the size and shape of my muscle bellies.

Most of my physical activity comes in the form of sports - surfing, BJJ, skating, and snowboarding. Outside of that my training is primarily mobility/parts focused with some maximal strength work. (FRC anyone?) Avoiding over-training was also huge in my recovery and still is to this day- my main setbacks come from very large bouts of physical activity. My focus as of recently has been nutrition in regards to athletic performance so I can avoid these setbacks whilst continuing to improve and push myself in my athletics.

My macros and caloric intake are largely intuitive at this point. I haven’t tracked in awhile but if I was to guess, I would say its 50% carbs, 35% fat, and 15% protein. I pretty much eat whatever I *feel* like eating in regards to amounts and macros, and feel best doing it this way. (I think achieving this level of intuition is wildly important) For me, it tends to be high carb, high-ish fat, and relatively low/moderate protein. I can lean out super drastically if I lower fat, but I feel best on a higher fat diet from all other standpoints (sleep, libido, stamina, athletic performance, strength, mood, confidence, digestion, skin health, etc) so I usually stay there.

My diet revolves around milk, cheese, maple syrup, cane sugar, espresso, fruits, coconut water, juice (orange and grape), mushrooms, eggs, connective tissue, oysters, and occasional muscle meat. Sugar benefits me more than starches, but I will eat a serving of starches daily. Potatoes, rice, coconut oil potato chips, and traditional corn tortillas. I eat most in the morning, and less and less throughout the day.

Daily supplements are thyroid, vitamin K, and progesterone. Frequently use aspirin, cyproheptadine, B1, magnesium, vit E, vit D, glycine, and taurine. But I’m always experimenting with others too.

Anyway, that’s all. sending love and power to you all.

 

[youngsinatra]

What’s up dawgs.

Long time no post.. its been about 6 years since my last post here. About time for an update.

I’m 29 now, and a completely different man than the sad boy who originally created this thread 7 years ago.

Sorry to all the people who have messaged me and asked questions. If you’re still around and looking to chat, feel free to hit me up.

Anyway, I’m sitting very comfortably under my bioenergetic umbrella amidst the shitstorm that is the state of the world. Every day is the new greatest I’ve ever felt (which is not to say I don’t still have setbacks). I’ve been lucky enough to have the opportunity to help some other people with Ray’s research and philosophies the past few years too. Full circle.

I’ve since completely recovered my health - especially hormonally. I’ve been using many of the same principles I originally shared. To this day I’ve continued my own research independently and haven’t stopped experimenting. Various foods, ways of eating, eating windows, supplements, compounds, lifestyle practices, training regimens, etc. I’ll tell you what - maintenance is far easier and way more fun than recovery. Sending power to all of you in a dark place. Hope my experience can serve as some light to you.

My current total testosterone sits between 930-1200, and has been up in this range since 2018. Wild to consider I was once at 130, especially as a 21 year old. Stoked to be on the other side. My most recent test reading below.

View attachment 55681

My thyroid status, estrogen, prolactin, vitamin D, and all other markers remain in good standing also. I get blood work twice per year, but symptoms are far more important to me.

Beyond the dietary measures, addressing my lifestyle was a huge turning point for me. Changing my job to something much less stressful and time consuming was what took my wellbeing to the next level. Moving to a place with more sun and maximizing sun exposure was also a massive step forward. Reading Hans Selye and releasing the burden of other stress in my life (relationships, environments, etc) was as important, if not more, than diet. I wish I focused on this sooner.

I currently sit at 180 lbs and am slowly increasing in weight. My body composition is fairy lean and has pretty much stayed this way throughout my journey. I continue to put on muscle without doing much, if any, hypertrophy training. My facial structure has shifted dramatically along with the size and shape of my muscle bellies.

View attachment 55682

Most of my physical activity comes in the form of sports - surfing, BJJ, skating, and snowboarding. Outside of that my training is primarily mobility/parts focused with some maximal strength work. (FRC anyone?) Avoiding over-training was also huge in my recovery and still is to this day- my main setbacks come from very large bouts of physical activity. My focus as of recently has been nutrition in regards to athletic performance so I can avoid these setbacks whilst continuing to improve and push myself in my athletics.

My macros and caloric intake are largely intuitive at this point. I haven’t tracked in awhile but if I was to guess, I would say its 50% carbs, 35% fat, and 15% protein. I pretty much eat whatever I *feel* like eating in regards to amounts and macros, and feel best doing it this way. (I think achieving this level of intuition is wildly important) For me, it tends to be high carb, high-ish fat, and relatively low/moderate protein. I can lean out super drastically if I lower fat, but I feel best on a higher fat diet from all other standpoints (sleep, libido, stamina, athletic performance, strength, mood, confidence, digestion, skin health, etc) so I usually stay there.

My diet revolves around milk, cheese, maple syrup, cane sugar, espresso, fruits, coconut water, juice (orange and grape), mushrooms, eggs, connective tissue, oysters, and occasional muscle meat. Sugar benefits me more than starches, but I will eat a serving of starches daily. Potatoes, rice, coconut oil potato chips, and traditional corn tortillas. I eat most in the morning, and less and less throughout the day.

Daily supplements are thyroid, vitamin K, and progesterone. Frequently use aspirin, cyproheptadine, B1, magnesium, vit E, vit D, glycine, and taurine. But I’m always experimenting with others too.

Anyway, that’s all. sending love and power to you all.

Thanks for the update. Sounds amazing! What type of thyroid are you using?

 

[Alex Jaramillo]

Awesome transformation man! What would you say are the top three things that got your T high and kept it high?

 

[Roni123@]

What’s up dawgs.

Long time no post.. its been about 6 years since my last post here. About time for an update.

I’m 29 now, and a completely different man than the sad boy who originally created this thread 7 years ago.

Sorry to all the people who have messaged me and asked questions. If you’re still around and looking to chat, feel free to hit me up.

Anyway, I’m sitting very comfortably under my bioenergetic umbrella amidst the shitstorm that is the state of the world. Every day is the new greatest I’ve ever felt (which is not to say I don’t still have setbacks). I’ve been lucky enough to have the opportunity to help some other people with Ray’s research and philosophies the past few years too. Full circle.

I’ve since completely recovered my health - especially hormonally. I’ve been using many of the same principles I originally shared. To this day I’ve continued my own research independently and haven’t stopped experimenting. Various foods, ways of eating, eating windows, supplements, compounds, lifestyle practices, training regimens, etc. I’ll tell you what - maintenance is far easier and way more fun than recovery. Sending power to all of you in a dark place. Hope my experience can serve as some light to you.

My current total testosterone sits between 930-1200, and has been up in this range since 2018. Wild to consider I was once at 130, especially as a 21 year old. Stoked to be on the other side. My most recent test reading below.

View attachment 55681

My thyroid status, estrogen, prolactin, vitamin D, and all other markers remain in good standing also. I get blood work twice per year, but symptoms are far more important to me.

Beyond the dietary measures, addressing my lifestyle was a huge turning point for me. Changing my job to something much less stressful and time consuming was what took my wellbeing to the next level. Moving to a place with more sun and maximizing sun exposure was also a massive step forward. Reading Hans Selye and releasing the burden of other stress in my life (relationships, environments, etc) was as important, if not more, than diet. I wish I focused on this sooner.

I currently sit at 180 lbs and am slowly increasing in weight. My body composition is fairy lean and has pretty much stayed this way throughout my journey. I continue to put on muscle without doing much, if any, hypertrophy training. My facial structure has shifted dramatically along with the size and shape of my muscle bellies.

View attachment 55682

Most of my physical activity comes in the form of sports - surfing, BJJ, skating, and snowboarding. Outside of that my training is primarily mobility/parts focused with some maximal strength work. (FRC anyone?) Avoiding over-training was also huge in my recovery and still is to this day- my main setbacks come from very large bouts of physical activity. My focus as of recently has been nutrition in regards to athletic performance so I can avoid these setbacks whilst continuing to improve and push myself in my athletics.

My macros and caloric intake are largely intuitive at this point. I haven’t tracked in awhile but if I was to guess, I would say its 50% carbs, 35% fat, and 15% protein. I pretty much eat whatever I *feel* like eating in regards to amounts and macros, and feel best doing it this way. (I think achieving this level of intuition is wildly important) For me, it tends to be high carb, high-ish fat, and relatively low/moderate protein. I can lean out super drastically if I lower fat, but I feel best on a higher fat diet from all other standpoints (sleep, libido, stamina, athletic performance, strength, mood, confidence, digestion, skin health, etc) so I usually stay there.

My diet revolves around milk, cheese, maple syrup, cane sugar, espresso, fruits, coconut water, juice (orange and grape), mushrooms, eggs, connective tissue, oysters, and occasional muscle meat. Sugar benefits me more than starches, but I will eat a serving of starches daily. Potatoes, rice, coconut oil potato chips, and traditional corn tortillas. I eat most in the morning, and less and less throughout the day.

Daily supplements are thyroid, vitamin K, and progesterone. Frequently use aspirin, cyproheptadine, B1, magnesium, vit E, vit D, glycine, and taurine. But I’m always experimenting with others too.

Anyway, that’s all. sending love and power to you all.

Hello brother, your story is incredible, do you choose a lot of carbohydrates and less protein because of methionine cysteine and tryptophan? What are your calories and can you get all the micros?

 

[tyler]

Thanks for the update. Sounds amazing! What type of thyroid are you using?

I use Cynoplus.

Awesome transformation man! What would you say are the top three things that got your T high and kept it high?

Outside of the standard bioenergetic way of eating, I think some important things for me were front-loading my calories (big breakfast upon waking and smaller meals throughout the day). Avoiding over-training. And eating intuitively - I go by how I feel for almost everything I eat. From how much salt I want, to how sweet I want things, whether I want starch or fruit, milk or meat, etc. I eat whatever sounds best in that moment. I tried to force macro ratios, calorie intakes, and food types for a long time. But once I dropped that and started going by feel, all biomarkers increased dramatically.

Hello brother, your story is incredible, do you choose a lot of carbohydrates and less protein because of methionine cysteine and tryptophan? What are your calories and can you get all the micros?

Thanks brotha. I ended up with that macro ratio just going by intuition, it seems to be my standard but it flexes with the days and how I feel like eating. The stress effects of those amino acids could very well influence how little I crave foods with them.

I get most micros, typically low in vit k (which I supp) and vitamin e (which I also supp).

Not too sure on calories but probably 3k+

 

[Roni123@]

I use Cynoplus.

Outside of the standard bioenergetic way of eating, I think some important things for me were front-loading my calories (big breakfast upon waking and smaller meals throughout the day). Avoiding over-training. And eating intuitively - I go by how I feel for almost everything I eat. From how much salt I want, to how sweet I want things, whether I want starch or fruit, milk or meat, etc. I eat whatever sounds best in that moment. I tried to force macro ratios, calorie intakes, and food types for a long time. But once I dropped that and started going by feel, all biomarkers increased dramatically.

Thanks brotha. I ended up with that macro ratio just going by intuition, it seems to be my standard but it flexes with the days and how I feel like eating. The stress effects of those amino acids could very well influence how little I crave foods with them.

I get most micros, typically low in vit k (which I supp) and vitamin e (which I also supp).

Not too sure on calories but probably 3k+

I'm focusing on high carbohydrates and low fat and protein, sometimes more fat, and a lot of sugar, unfortunately today I couldn't beat the micros.... my problem is digestion, sometimes I get discomfort, bad stools, but the high carbohydrates seem correct my intestine due to co2 I learned that methionine inflames the intestine a lot and can cause cancer

 

[Regina]

What’s up dawgs.

Long time no post.. its been about 6 years since my last post here. About time for an update.

I’m 29 now, and a completely different man than the sad boy who originally created this thread 7 years ago.

Sorry to all the people who have messaged me and asked questions. If you’re still around and looking to chat, feel free to hit me up.

Anyway, I’m sitting very comfortably under my bioenergetic umbrella amidst the shitstorm that is the state of the world. Every day is the new greatest I’ve ever felt (which is not to say I don’t still have setbacks). I’ve been lucky enough to have the opportunity to help some other people with Ray’s research and philosophies the past few years too. Full circle.

I’ve since completely recovered my health - especially hormonally. I’ve been using many of the same principles I originally shared. To this day I’ve continued my own research independently and haven’t stopped experimenting. Various foods, ways of eating, eating windows, supplements, compounds, lifestyle practices, training regimens, etc. I’ll tell you what - maintenance is far easier and way more fun than recovery. Sending power to all of you in a dark place. Hope my experience can serve as some light to you.

My current total testosterone sits between 930-1200, and has been up in this range since 2018. Wild to consider I was once at 130, especially as a 21 year old. Stoked to be on the other side. My most recent test reading below.

View attachment 55681

My thyroid status, estrogen, prolactin, vitamin D, and all other markers remain in good standing also. I get blood work twice per year, but symptoms are far more important to me.

Beyond the dietary measures, addressing my lifestyle was a huge turning point for me. Changing my job to something much less stressful and time consuming was what took my wellbeing to the next level. Moving to a place with more sun and maximizing sun exposure was also a massive step forward. Reading Hans Selye and releasing the burden of other stress in my life (relationships, environments, etc) was as important, if not more, than diet. I wish I focused on this sooner.

I currently sit at 180 lbs and am slowly increasing in weight. My body composition is fairy lean and has pretty much stayed this way throughout my journey. I continue to put on muscle without doing much, if any, hypertrophy training. My facial structure has shifted dramatically along with the size and shape of my muscle bellies.

View attachment 55682

Most of my physical activity comes in the form of sports - surfing, BJJ, skating, and snowboarding. Outside of that my training is primarily mobility/parts focused with some maximal strength work. (FRC anyone?) Avoiding over-training was also huge in my recovery and still is to this day- my main setbacks come from very large bouts of physical activity. My focus as of recently has been nutrition in regards to athletic performance so I can avoid these setbacks whilst continuing to improve and push myself in my athletics.

My macros and caloric intake are largely intuitive at this point. I haven’t tracked in awhile but if I was to guess, I would say its 50% carbs, 35% fat, and 15% protein. I pretty much eat whatever I *feel* like eating in regards to amounts and macros, and feel best doing it this way. (I think achieving this level of intuition is wildly important) For me, it tends to be high carb, high-ish fat, and relatively low/moderate protein. I can lean out super drastically if I lower fat, but I feel best on a higher fat diet from all other standpoints (sleep, libido, stamina, athletic performance, strength, mood, confidence, digestion, skin health, etc) so I usually stay there.

My diet revolves around milk, cheese, maple syrup, cane sugar, espresso, fruits, coconut water, juice (orange and grape), mushrooms, eggs, connective tissue, oysters, and occasional muscle meat. Sugar benefits me more than starches, but I will eat a serving of starches daily. Potatoes, rice, coconut oil potato chips, and traditional corn tortillas. I eat most in the morning, and less and less throughout the day.

Daily supplements are thyroid, vitamin K, and progesterone. Frequently use aspirin, cyproheptadine, B1, magnesium, vit E, vit D, glycine, and taurine. But I’m always experimenting with others too.

Anyway, that’s all. sending love and power to you all.

Congrats tyler!

Nice to hear from you. You look fabulous!!

 

[youngsinatra]

I use Cynoplus.

Have you been able to reduce your thyroid dose over the years or has it been pretty steady?

How much of cynoplus are you using nowadays?

Do you contribute taking thyroid as a significant factor in your recovery and raising your testosterone or were there other factors that had a bigger impact?

 

[blackface]

@tyler Awesome progress. I can I just ask you whats your height? Plus do you still take DHEA/panesterone?

 

[Runenight201]

The 2016 before and 2023 after look like 2 different people, that’s how impressive this transformation is!

In 2016 you mentioning pansterone and kuinone being the driving changes in your health. Why did you change out pregnenelone/DHEA for progesterone?

I agree with your notion that work/environment to be as important/more important than diet. What job did you used to have and what did you change it too?

 

[tyler]

Congrats tyler!

Nice to hear from you. You look fabulous!!

Yo Regina likewise! Thank you. Stoked to see you around still.

Have you been able to reduce your thyroid dose over the years or has it been pretty steady?

How much of cynoplus are you using nowadays?

Do you contribute taking thyroid as a significant factor in your recovery and raising your testosterone or were there other factors that had a bigger impact?

It's been pretty steady for the last few years. In my first few years of recovering, I had a really hard time gauging an effect from it, and was never consistent with it as a result. And I couldn't keep my cholesterol up on it (thyroid will convert cholesterol into the downstream hormones). So I dropped it and reintroduced it much later in my journey to good results (practical and consistent increase in temp and pulse, cholesterol levels consistently high even while taking). I'm guessing my ability to uptake T3 was low, I wish I tested this. I think improving my liver health with diet and other supplements fixed the cholesterol issue- and so had much better results using thyroid . I use a quarter to a half tablet (.5 to 1 grain), depending on the season. It's hard to say how much influence it has over my test levels now, it's certainly a helpful kick, but I don't think it's the most important thing. I was feeling really good symptomatically at the point before I started taking it again.

@tyler Awesome progress. I can I just ask you whats your height? Plus do you still take DHEA/panesterone?

Hey dawg, thank you. I'm 5' 11" - and I'm not taking DHEA/pansterone anymore. Haven't since my early days.

The 2016 before and 2023 after look like 2 different people, that’s how impressive this transformation is!

In 2016 you mentioning pansterone and kuinone being the driving changes in your health. Why did you change out pregnenelone/DHEA for progesterone?

I agree with your notion that work/environment to be as important/more important than diet. What job did you used to have and what did you change it too?

Thanks dude, yeah I totally agree. Whenever I visit my hometown no one recognizes me.

It's hard to remember why I dropped it - I was constantly cycling different compounds to see their effect. Progesterone improved the quality of my sleep dramatically, also notice reduced water retention, and a pro-libido effect. It continues to be a very powerful anti-stress agent for me. So I kept it in my routine. I use it 3-5 times per week, 5mg and under, before bed.

I worked as a commercial fisherman, long days and very intense physical labor. I now work as a freelancer in a few industries, and built my own business. Biggest benefits being in control of my schedule and time, and reporting to no authority figures (bosses) lol. Not to mention the obvious reduction in physical stress.

 

[Runenight201]

Yo Regina likewise! Thank you. Stoked to see you around still.

It's been pretty steady for the last few years. In my first few years of recovering, I had a really hard time gauging an effect from it, and was never consistent with it as a result. And I couldn't keep my cholesterol up on it (thyroid will convert cholesterol into the downstream hormones). So I dropped it and reintroduced it much later in my journey to good results (practical and consistent increase in temp and pulse, cholesterol levels consistently high even while taking). I'm guessing my ability to uptake T3 was low, I wish I tested this. I think improving my liver health with diet and other supplements fixed the cholesterol issue- and so had much better results using thyroid . I use a quarter to a half tablet (.5 to 1 grain), depending on the season. It's hard to say how much influence it has over my test levels now, it's certainly a helpful kick, but I don't think it's the most important thing. I was feeling really good symptomatically at the point before I started taking it again.

Hey dawg, thank you. I'm 5' 11" - and I'm not taking DHEA/pansterone anymore. Haven't since my early days.

Thanks dude, yeah I totally agree. Whenever I visit my hometown no one recognizes me.

It's hard to remember why I dropped it - I was constantly cycling different compounds to see their effect. Progesterone improved the quality of my sleep dramatically, also notice reduced water retention, and a pro-libido effect. It continues to be a very powerful anti-stress agent for me. So I kept it in my routine. I use it 3-5 times per week, 5mg and under, before bed.

I worked as a commercial fisherman, long days and very intense physical labor. I now work as a freelancer in a few industries, and built my own business. Biggest benefits being in control of my schedule and time, and reporting to no authority figures (bosses) lol. Not to mention the obvious reduction in physical stress.

Nice. The control aspect of your time is probably huge. Being able to eat/drink/rest/work when appropriate keeps stress low and energy high.

Sleep has been an ongoing issue for me for years now, progressively getting worse. For sure going to try progesterone now after seeing this. Also will be emphasizing sun exposure (typing this currently bathing in the sun ) , as I can get into a low energy rut of just laying indoors in my bed all day.

Thanks for positive influence, always good to see people doing well