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Bitters work extremely well with the innate system!Just a heads up, I’d try to increase stomach acid before a meal, rather than fix the post meal reflux.
So taurine, enzymes, ACV with or without freshly squeezed lemon... will all increase stomach acid which may change your life
Adding in some B5 may help as well. I use it with my Cystic Acne folks with great success. Thins the sebum, and with bodybuilders it really works wonders!I should maybe mention I am a 28-year-old female in case that's relevant. My skin is still clearing up, on my face, shoulders, even places where I don't get clogged pores it's just getting really extra clear, and I have no eczema on my hands as I'm usually prone. I've never ever had anything work to help my skin like this. My hand joints also look healthy, a lot of times they look swollen.
@tara @yerrag Urinary pH seems like something good to be aware of. I have had a UTI before and it's not fun, and from my understanding acidic pH is part of how they're prevented. If I get any symptoms of anything like that I will be honest about that.
@EIRE24 I'm not really being that precise about when I dose. Definitely once in the morning before I eat. Then I just try to space the other two doses at least four or so hours apart.
Urinary pH seems like something good to be aware of. I have had a UTI before and it's not fun, and from my understanding acidic pH is part of how they're prevented. If I get any symptoms of anything like that I will be honest about that.
Thanks. someone referenced Nathan's protocol vaguely on here and it was one of the things that inspired me to try this idea, glad to have the source material now. I wonder what gave him the idea in the first place but I don't know if the answer will be worth the $30 for his book@artist Here's a thread on sodium acetate that could shed more light on your experience: Has Anyone Tried Sodium Acetate ? (for SIBO?)
you're thinking of baking powderDoes baking soda contain aluminum tho?
I already get b5 most days from an energy drink I favor but that is good to know. I don't get cystic acne myself (unless I eat soy or certain forms of dairy), it's just all-over congested, dull, textured skin.Adding in some B5 may help as well. I use it with my Cystic Acne folks with great success. Thins the sebum, and with bodybuilders it really works wonders!
How does acidic pH prevent UTI?
I don't think acidic pH prevents UTI as much as it indicates the absence of a bacteria (in a form of UTI) that breaks down urea into ammonia, which causes the urine to be alkaline.
I find that when I drink a lot of fruit juice, my urine pH ends up being alkaline as well. But I don't think this makes me more susceptible to UTI on account of the higher pH reading.
Not really. There's a thread on RBTI and Reams, but it doesn't go into that level of detail. I think he found that range to be empirically useful, as well as having his own chemical explanations for it. For people battling cancer, I think he tended to favour the higher end of the range. He had a detailed understanding of chemistry, biochemistry, horticulture, soil, etc. I think he said it was the range needed for healing to take place (along with the other parameters he measured). Some people need support to bring it more acid, some to more alkaline, depending on their state. I think he said it tends to reflect the extra-cellular pH. Peat has talked about intra- and extra-cellular pH being different. I don't see why UpH would be the same as intracellular pH. But I still struggle with this area.Do you have references as to how they arrive at these values?
This is why I think it's good to have some DIY way of checking whether one is getting too far out of range pH-wise, and not going over the top, especially longer term.Admittedly, the world is not going to be filled with people who can practice caution. There are many gotchas to deal with. It is always necessary to keep reminding people to be careful. People should really not touch baking soda by themselves, if they can help it. But they can't help it. There are no doctors out there who understand the use of baking soda, and so one is left with two choices: self-experiment with baking soda, or just stay away from baking soda.
I've had them too. Never want another one! I'd not heard that acid UpH prevents. urinary alkalinisers are often used as part of treatment. Cranberry juice can apparently be helpful (I've heard it's served in some elder care facilities fr this reason, and it seemed to work for me.) Others have recommended lemon juice. Some here swear by D-mannose.I have had a UTI before and it's not fun, and from my understanding acidic pH is part of how they're prevented.
Baking powder apparently often does. Baking soda ought to be pstraight sodium bicarbonate. Baking powder is a mixture ofDoes baking soda contain aluminum tho?
I've had them too. Never want another one! I'd not heard that acid UpH prevents. urinary alkalinisers are often used as part of treatment. Cranberry juice can apparently be helpful (I've heard it's served in some elder care facilities fr this reason, and it seemed to work for me.) Others have recommended lemon juice. Some here swear by D-mannose.
You may be right! A person’s diet, acidity of urine may affect susceptibility to UTIs | The Source | Washington University in St. Louis
"Conventional wisdom in medicine favors the idea that acidic urine is better for restricting bacterial growth. But their results were surprising because samples that were less acidic, closer to the neutral pH of pure water, showed higher activity of the protein siderocalin and were better at restricting bacterial growth than the more acidic samples."
I had been going off that conventional wisdom but this article is the first thing that came up when I Googled UTI and pH. More food for thought.
HiThanks. someone referenced Nathan's protocol vaguely on here and it was one of the things that inspired me to try this idea, glad to have the source material now. I wonder what gave him the idea in the first place but I don't know if the answer will be worth the $30 for his book
you're thinking of baking powder
I already get b5 most days from an energy drink I favor but that is good to know. I don't get cystic acne myself (unless I eat soy or certain forms of dairy), it's just all-over congested, dull, textured skin.
I'm still going strong by the way. Yesterday I used fragranced hair product with no reaction, drank wine and felt fine, had milky coffee, no immediately apparent reaction. I do think the milk (and/or wine?) made me feel a little more groggy and blah for a bit this morning but nothing serious, no full-blown reactions, and my skin's still getting better by the day. I probably should try not to get crazy with my diet (eating the riskiest things that I know I usually react to) until I can run an elimination diet in the new paradigm (of not having SIBO or not lacking sodium or whatever is happening.) I'm a little dazed by the whole thing. Scared to get attached to not being sick and also having some survivor's guilt at the prospect. I also feel so different psychologically that it's a little disorienting and scary because I am not used to not being anxious and depressed lol
I just started baking soda (1/2 t) with ACV (1 T). If you get the proportions right, it is a weak base after it reacts, not acidic. Just combine them and wait 5 minutes (probably 30 seconds is enough though).Hi @artist , have you come around to trying baking soda with water (no vinegar?). The reason I ask is that I started using baking soda with water upon waking and clearly see benefits, however it feels counterintuitive because I normally wake up craving acids... however, I am somewhat afraid of chugging 2 Tsp of vinegar on an empty stomach because I have a history of real bad gastritis. So I’d love to hear your experience and if you’ve seen differences in benefits of the baking soda between with and without the vinegar. Thanks!!!
Hi
I just started baking soda (1/2 t) with ACV (1 T). If you get the proportions right, it is a weak base after it reacts, not acidic. Just combine them and wait 5 minutes (probably 30 seconds is enough though).
Its made a HUGE difference to me. Its only been a week but its dramatically reduced my asthma/allergy symptoms. It gave me mild flu symptoms for a few days and has sped up transit time while overall reducing bloating and gas.
Its a good question.@managing , many thanks for sharing your experience. I’m still in doubt though, why do you think having the baking soda with an acid is superior to having it with just water? According to the research that Haidut recently posted on the benefits of sodium bicarbonate as an anti-inflammatory substance, the subjects were ingesting it with water only, that’s why I ask.
(Tagging @Evandrojr as well)artist
Have you tried the baking soda without vinegar? Are you still experiencing benefits from this therapy?
Thanks for the update.(Tagging @Evandrojr as well)
I haven't tried the baking soda by itself as I want enough time to observe before changing things around. I had a hiccup caused by various life circumstances, including being too excited to eat/expose myself to every single thing Im usually sensitive to and eventually tipping the scales back to inflammation (dumb), as well as (Sry tmi) constipation seemingly induced by this protocol. I always get this issue from anything that has an antibiotic effect for some reason. In this case I considered that maybe it's partly induced by increased usage of magnesium as I have heard sodium can have that effect, so I increased magnesium and that pretty much squared that away. Still I have a ways to go to figure out a new equilibrium with the baking soda+vinegar in the mix so that transit time doesn't slow down too much. I'm curious if this problem is just my own as I see @managing saw digestion speed up instead. The positive effects on my joints and skin are holding the most steady but my skin did get worse for a bit while the constipation was at its worst, and it's getting back to being glowy and nice again now. Will let you all know in another few weeks if I'm still getting good effects.
(Tagging @Evandrojr as well)
I haven't tried the baking soda by itself as I want enough time to observe before changing things around. I had a hiccup caused by various life circumstances, including being too excited to eat/expose myself to every single thing Im usually sensitive to and eventually tipping the scales back to inflammation (dumb), as well as (Sry tmi) constipation seemingly induced by this protocol. I always get this issue from anything that has an antibiotic effect for some reason. In this case I considered that maybe it's partly induced by increased usage of magnesium as I have heard sodium can have that effect, so I increased magnesium and that pretty much squared that away. Still I have a ways to go to figure out a new equilibrium with the baking soda+vinegar in the mix so that transit time doesn't slow down too much. I'm curious if this problem is just my own as I see @managing saw digestion speed up instead. The positive effects on my joints and skin are holding the most steady but my skin did get worse for a bit while the constipation was at its worst, and it's getting back to being glowy and nice again now. Will let you all know in another few weeks if I'm still getting good effects.
Mark Sircus's book "Sodium Bicarbonate: Nature's Unique First Aid Remedy" gives a solid explanation for why baking soda works. https://www.amazon.com/Sodium-Bicarbonate-Natures-Unique-Remedy/dp/075700394X
Two key quotes from the book: 1) "Baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) immediately reacts when it mixes with stomach acid. NaHCO3 + HCl → NaCl + H20 + CO2. That is: Sodium bicarbonate + stomach acid yields salt + water + carbon dioxide." 2) "According to Henderson, carbon dioxide exerts at least three well-defined influences: 1.It is one of the prime factors in the acid-base balance of the blood. 2.It is the principal control of respiration. 3.It exerts an essential tonic influence upon the heart and peripheral circulation."