Autism And Stuff Like It

[Blinkyrocket]

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/asperger-syndrome
This is a good description of aspergers.

You might consider aspergers if you feel you lack antennas which most other people have: Is it an intellectual effort to decipher the meaning of fascial expression rather than instinct? If you feel you have more antennas than average this could be a sign of HSP. The latter is usually associated with high cortisol.

I tried to find out more about aspergers a couple of years ago, but gave up at some point. I couldn't find any trustworthy information as to its causes.

PS: There isn't any trustworthy about HSP either.

Well, what do you mean by antennas? And "Individuals with Asperger syndrome tend to develop an intense interest in a particular subject." This I have, "Often they are able to remember enormous amounts of detail on their subject of interest. They may want to share this large amount of information with others and may resist diversion to other topics." And this, "They may also have difficulty tolerating sensory stimuli such as noise or lights." Does panicking when the fireworks go off count for noise? My sister also closes her ears when they shoot the fireworks on the fourth of july and shes got similiar anxiety problems to me and is also very skinny just like me.

I hate making eye contact, "Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like." I used to not talk to anyone I didn't feel comfortable around, when I was in preschool, the teachers thought I couldn't speak at all for who knows how long until they heard me talk to my dad when he came to pick me up. I still don't like talking to many people but I force myself to do it.

You have an introverted personality; you're normal. That may rain on your special-snowflake parade and if you think you have higher than normal serotonin, continue Peating until it's lower.

Actually I care little about being special, I just don't like to think I'm normal cuz if I am than it's more difficult to change.

I also used to pick our dog, Fozzy, up when he was a puppy and continually drop him and it made me angry that he just kept coming up to me as if he wasn't hurt by it.

 

[uuy8778yyi]

I disagree modern technology and lack of socialising cause it,

because it was prevalent in the 1960s and 1970s too

I don't see how that's possible if I've been this way since I was practically a baby.

what does that mean ?

I meant it isn't a modern disease

It was discovered in the 1950s

I'm confused by there not being a comma, are you saying that you disagree with the statement that modern technology causes it?

I disagree modern technology causes it

 

[uuy8778yyi]

I disagree modern technology and lack of socialising cause it,

because it was prevalent in the 1960s and 1970s too

I don't see how that's possible if I've been this way since I was practically a baby.

I have no idea what you are saying.

That aspergers didn't exist in the 1960s, because you had it when you were younger ?

What ? :S

 

[cantstoppeating]

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/asperger-syndrome
This is a good description of aspergers.

You might consider aspergers if you feel you lack antennas which most other people have: Is it an intellectual effort to decipher the meaning of fascial expression rather than instinct? If you feel you have more antennas than average this could be a sign of HSP. The latter is usually associated with high cortisol.

I tried to find out more about aspergers a couple of years ago, but gave up at some point. I couldn't find any trustworthy information as to its causes.

PS: There isn't any trustworthy about HSP either.

Well, what do you mean by antennas? And "Individuals with Asperger syndrome tend to develop an intense interest in a particular subject." This I have, "Often they are able to remember enormous amounts of detail on their subject of interest. They may want to share this large amount of information with others and may resist diversion to other topics." And this, "They may also have difficulty tolerating sensory stimuli such as noise or lights." Does panicking when the fireworks go off count for noise? My sister also closes her ears when they shoot the fireworks on the fourth of july and shes got similiar anxiety problems to me and is also very skinny just like me.

I hate making eye contact, "Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like." I used to not talk to anyone I didn't feel comfortable around, when I was in preschool, the teachers thought I couldn't speak at all for who knows how long until they heard me talk to my dad when he came to pick me up. I still don't like talking to many people but I force myself to do it.

You have an introverted personality; you're normal. That may rain on your special-snowflake parade and if you think you have higher than normal serotonin, continue Peating until it's lower.

Actually I care little about being special, I just don't like to think I'm normal cuz if I am than it's more difficult to change.

I also used to pick our dog, Fozzy, up when he was a puppy and continually drop him and it made me angry that he just kept coming up to me as if he wasn't hurt by it.

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

 

[Blinkyrocket]

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/asperger-syndrome
This is a good description of aspergers.

You might consider aspergers if you feel you lack antennas which most other people have: Is it an intellectual effort to decipher the meaning of fascial expression rather than instinct? If you feel you have more antennas than average this could be a sign of HSP. The latter is usually associated with high cortisol.

I tried to find out more about aspergers a couple of years ago, but gave up at some point. I couldn't find any trustworthy information as to its causes.

PS: There isn't any trustworthy about HSP either.

Well, what do you mean by antennas? And "Individuals with Asperger syndrome tend to develop an intense interest in a particular subject." This I have, "Often they are able to remember enormous amounts of detail on their subject of interest. They may want to share this large amount of information with others and may resist diversion to other topics." And this, "They may also have difficulty tolerating sensory stimuli such as noise or lights." Does panicking when the fireworks go off count for noise? My sister also closes her ears when they shoot the fireworks on the fourth of july and shes got similiar anxiety problems to me and is also very skinny just like me.

I hate making eye contact, "Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like." I used to not talk to anyone I didn't feel comfortable around, when I was in preschool, the teachers thought I couldn't speak at all for who knows how long until they heard me talk to my dad when he came to pick me up. I still don't like talking to many people but I force myself to do it.

You have an introverted personality; you're normal. That may rain on your special-snowflake parade and if you think you have higher than normal serotonin, continue Peating until it's lower.

Actually I care little about being special, I just don't like to think I'm normal cuz if I am than it's more difficult to change.

I also used to pick our dog, Fozzy, up when he was a puppy and continually drop him and it made me angry that he just kept coming up to me as if he wasn't hurt by it.

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

Well, I can and will, if I'm normal than I would feel like I could take that responsibility but the easy way out is always the one I'll take. I assume that you assume I'm normal only because I'm able to say all this stuff on this forum so reasonably, but I assure you I'm just following external rules, holding back.

 

[cantstoppeating]

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/asperger-syndrome
This is a good description of aspergers.

You might consider aspergers if you feel you lack antennas which most other people have: Is it an intellectual effort to decipher the meaning of fascial expression rather than instinct? If you feel you have more antennas than average this could be a sign of HSP. The latter is usually associated with high cortisol.

I tried to find out more about aspergers a couple of years ago, but gave up at some point. I couldn't find any trustworthy information as to its causes.

PS: There isn't any trustworthy about HSP either.

Well, what do you mean by antennas? And "Individuals with Asperger syndrome tend to develop an intense interest in a particular subject." This I have, "Often they are able to remember enormous amounts of detail on their subject of interest. They may want to share this large amount of information with others and may resist diversion to other topics." And this, "They may also have difficulty tolerating sensory stimuli such as noise or lights." Does panicking when the fireworks go off count for noise? My sister also closes her ears when they shoot the fireworks on the fourth of july and shes got similiar anxiety problems to me and is also very skinny just like me.

I hate making eye contact, "Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like." I used to not talk to anyone I didn't feel comfortable around, when I was in preschool, the teachers thought I couldn't speak at all for who knows how long until they heard me talk to my dad when he came to pick me up. I still don't like talking to many people but I force myself to do it.

You have an introverted personality; you're normal. That may rain on your special-snowflake parade and if you think you have higher than normal serotonin, continue Peating until it's lower.

Actually I care little about being special, I just don't like to think I'm normal cuz if I am than it's more difficult to change.

I also used to pick our dog, Fozzy, up when he was a puppy and continually drop him and it made me angry that he just kept coming up to me as if he wasn't hurt by it.

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

Well, I can and will, if I'm normal than I would feel like I could take that responsibility but the easy way out is always the one I'll take.

Good luck.

 

[Blinkyrocket]

http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/asperger-syndrome
This is a good description of aspergers.

You might consider aspergers if you feel you lack antennas which most other people have: Is it an intellectual effort to decipher the meaning of fascial expression rather than instinct? If you feel you have more antennas than average this could be a sign of HSP. The latter is usually associated with high cortisol.

I tried to find out more about aspergers a couple of years ago, but gave up at some point. I couldn't find any trustworthy information as to its causes.

PS: There isn't any trustworthy about HSP either.

Well, what do you mean by antennas? And "Individuals with Asperger syndrome tend to develop an intense interest in a particular subject." This I have, "Often they are able to remember enormous amounts of detail on their subject of interest. They may want to share this large amount of information with others and may resist diversion to other topics." And this, "They may also have difficulty tolerating sensory stimuli such as noise or lights." Does panicking when the fireworks go off count for noise? My sister also closes her ears when they shoot the fireworks on the fourth of july and shes got similiar anxiety problems to me and is also very skinny just like me.

I hate making eye contact, "Some of them may even display selective mutism, speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may choose only to talk to people they like." I used to not talk to anyone I didn't feel comfortable around, when I was in preschool, the teachers thought I couldn't speak at all for who knows how long until they heard me talk to my dad when he came to pick me up. I still don't like talking to many people but I force myself to do it.

You have an introverted personality; you're normal. That may rain on your special-snowflake parade and if you think you have higher than normal serotonin, continue Peating until it's lower.

Actually I care little about being special, I just don't like to think I'm normal cuz if I am than it's more difficult to change.

I also used to pick our dog, Fozzy, up when he was a puppy and continually drop him and it made me angry that he just kept coming up to me as if he wasn't hurt by it.

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

Well, I can and will, if I'm normal than I would feel like I could take that responsibility but the easy way out is always the one I'll take.

Good luck.

Obviously I'm looking for reasons, but a normal person doesn't look for reasons to not be normal, you've gotta consider certain things like the reason somebody says something not just what they're saying. I don't get why people don't understand anything.
At first I denied my diagnosis of Asperger's, now I see it as a way out since I found out it can possibly be treated.

 

[Kasper]

@Blinkyrocket

Through they ears, have you seen differences in your symptoms ? I mean do you feel changing diet etc, changes your symptoms in any way ?

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

?? Feeling incomfortable with eye contact, being overly senstive to stimilu, light, noises etc. I don't hink this is "normal", and I don't think you can judge anyone for that.

 

[Blinkyrocket]

@Blinkyrocket

Through they ears, have you seen differences in your symptoms ? I mean do you feel changing diet etc, changes your symptoms in any way ?

It seems to me that you're looking for reasons to consider yourself autistic or some other diagnosis.

You're normal, which means you can't escape responsibility of your state by blaming some inherent mental disfunction.

?? Feeling incomfortable with eye contact, being overly senstive to stimilu, light, noises etc. I don't hink this is "normal", and I don't think you can judge anyone for that.

Not really, the only thing that felt like it actually changed anything even just a little was Benadryl, I don't think sugar or low PUFA has done anything drastic and different. I have more heart palpitations and my muscles are still rigid and tense. When I took Benadryl its heart rate and feelings didn't matter, I could do whatever I wanted, I overcame agoraphobia that I've had for a year when I took Benadryl. It makes me wanna try cyproheptadine or famotidine.

 

[answersfound]

Stop whining and start Peating.

 

[HDD]

My son recently had the symptoms you describe by taking melatonin, tryptophan and 5htp. Daily he became increasingly worse with light and noise sensitivity and eye contact. I believe his serotonin was already increased from stress and supplementing 5htp put him into an extreme serotonin syndrome.

Cyproheptadine could be very beneficial.

Some info from Ray Peat-
"Autistic children and their relatives have high concentrations of serotonin in their serum and platelets. Members of a family tend to eat the same foods and to share other environmental conditions. Prenatal hypothyroidism and various kinds of imprinting, including hyperestrogenism, could account for this. Some studies have reported that thyroid supplements help autistic children, and anti-serotonin drugs have caused improvement in both children and adults."

"Serotonin tends to cause hypoglycemia, and hypoglycemia inhibits the conversion of thyroxine into the active T3 hormone. Hypoglycemia and hypothyroidism increase noradrenaline, and autistic people have been found to have more noradrenaline than normal. These changes, along with the general hypometabolism caused by excess serotonin, seem to justify the use of a thyroid supplement in autism and other serotonin-excess syndromes."

"Many of the symptoms produced by excess serotonin are also the symptoms of hypothyroidism. Thyroid, progesterone, and high quality protein nutrition are central to protection against the serotonin syndromes."

 

[HDD]

Serotonin removal thread.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=249&hilit=Serotonin+removal

"Carbon dioxide, high altitude, thyroid, progesterone, caffeine, aspirin, and decreased tryptophan consumption protect against excessive serotonin release. When sodium intake is restricted, there is a sharp increase in serotonin secretion. This accounts for some of the antiinflammatory and diuretic effects of increased sodium consumption--increasing sodium lowers both serotonin and adrenalin."

 

[Blinkyrocket]

Serotonin removal thread.
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=249&hilit=Serotonin+removal

"Carbon dioxide, high altitude, thyroid, progesterone, caffeine, aspirin, and decreased tryptophan consumption protect against excessive serotonin release. When sodium intake is restricted, there is a sharp increase in serotonin secretion. This accounts for some of the antiinflammatory and diuretic effects of increased sodium consumption--increasing sodium lowers both serotonin and adrenalin."

Before changing my diet I intuitively ate salty junk food that provided 6000-8000mg of sodium, now I can eat that much and still feel bad and my pee is still relatively clear and I have no appetite, I have to remind myself to eat. I wish I wasn't afraid to take thyroid (pounding heart), and I need to go get it tested for more than just TSH this time. I see everywhere that "so and so may IMPROVE symptoms of autism" has it ever been cured?

 

[Blinkyrocket]

Stop whining and start Peating.

I've been peating for 6 months.

 

[Blinkyrocket]

Obviously PUFA removal takes time and I attributed bad effects to coffee but when I look back I think it was rather the liquid. I need more salt :?

The only time my symptoms subsided a little and I was able to (not forcefully) socialize more and felt good was one summer where I was outside more often than inside. After that summer was over I realized that the entire time I hadn't had a single panic attack. But it wasn't like a miracle, just felt a little better.

 

[sm1693]

A diagnosis of autism won't help because mainstream science is utterly baffled by it. There is no cure and they don't even know what the underlying dysfunction is. I have seen theories by scientists suggesting viral origin, bacterial origin, sulfur deficiency, etc...

Autism is really just a collection of symptoms. There is a whole spectrum of symptoms from extreme (yelling, toe-walking) to mild (lack of eye contact, lack of empathy). There are many anecdotal stories on the web of parents who have taken their child from extreme symptoms to mild symptoms (and often back to extreme) from diet and supplement interventions.

I have geared much of my personal research towards autism because I feel that the collection of symptoms best represents what I want to solve in my own life, and it seems to be what many people on the forum are dealing with, usually on the mild side.

Possibly part of the cure is lowering serotonin, but even that is not the incredibly easy thing some people on here make it out to be. People are coming at this from all different levels of gut dysfunction. There is no single resource of information that includes all methods of lowering "felt" serotonin, and many supplements walk a fine line of helping until they go too far and cause irritation, constipation, etc.

Ray Peat is probably the overall answer to autism (mostly). I have felt more happy this past year and a half then possibly the whole rest of my life combined. Happiness is biological; it is not bestowed on you celestially and does not originate from another human being.

The problem is that Ray Peat has only given us 90% of a solution to health problems. Every person on this forum could possibly help change world history. We can add to that last 10% of understanding it takes to figure it all out. Posts consisting of "stop whining" take the whole group off course, are regressive, and possibly fueled by the estrogen Ray tells us to be rid of.

 

[Blinkyrocket]

A diagnosis of autism won't help because mainstream science is utterly baffled by it. There is no cure and they don't even know what the underlying dysfunction is. I have seen theories by scientists suggesting viral origin, bacterial origin, sulfur deficiency, etc...

Autism is really just a collection of symptoms. There is a whole spectrum of symptoms from extreme (yelling, toe-walking) to mild (lack of eye contact, lack of empathy). There are many anecdotal stories on the web of parents who have taken their child from extreme symptoms to mild symptoms (and often back to extreme) from diet and supplement interventions.

I have geared much of my personal research towards autism because I feel that the collection of symptoms best represents what I want to solve in my own life, and it seems to be what many people on the forum are dealing with, usually on the mild side.

Possibly part of the cure is lowering serotonin, but even that is not the incredibly easy thing some people on here make it out to be. People are coming at this from all different levels of gut dysfunction. There is no single resource of information that includes all methods of lowering "felt" serotonin, and many supplements walk a fine line of helping until they go too far and cause irritation, constipation, etc.

Ray Peat is probably the overall answer to autism (mostly). I have felt more happy this past year and a half then possibly the whole rest of my life combined. Happiness is biological; it is not bestowed on you celestially and does not originate from another human being.

The problem is that Ray Peat has only given us 90% of a solution to health problems. Every person on this forum could possibly help change world history. We can add to that last 10% of understanding it takes to figure it all out. Posts consisting of "stop whining" take the whole group off course, are regressive, and possibly fueled by the estrogen Ray tells us to be rid of.

I just wanna be more outgoing and freaking let out all the jokes or little things I wanna say without fearing embarrassment. And I wanna stop the repetitive behaviors I seem to not be able to stop like now it's sniffing even when there's no reason to sniff.

 

[Kasper]

@Blinkyrocket

Maybe a bit a strange question, but how many pieces of paper do you need when you go the toilet ?

 

[Blinkyrocket]

@Blinkyrocket

Maybe a bit a strange question, but how many pieces of paper do you need when you go the toilet ?

Well, there might be a difference between want and need but I usually use half the roll (exaggeration) or about 20 pieces.

 

[milk]

Blinky, you remind me of myself.

Growing up in Evangelical household, social anxiety, anger, Puritanism ("gosh", "dang"), OCD.

I recently did that online autism test where you look at photographs of people's eyes and have to guess the emotion they're feeling. I did well on it, but to do so I had to pretend I was having a conversation with those people and looking them in the eye, and caring about how they were feeling.

Instead of, you know, sperging on and on about a subject of my interest while a look of panic emerges in my interlocutor's eyes and I just don't care and keep pummeling him with words. I have done that, I have been spergy, it sucks. It's considered autistic, but it comes from self-righteousness, preachiness, not caring about the person's actual feelings. Laziness. And then I realize I don't care about my emotions either, I don't respect them.

You keep saying you're "full of anger", which is a serious problem, but you seem to think the real sin would be using actual swear words instead of "darn" and "eff" when venting that anger. Puritanical inversion of values. Being finicky about irrelevant bull**** and disrespecting your own emotions. I know how that it is, I do the same thing.