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So, the British/Aussie expression that some group of people are "a bunch of wankers" turned out to be literally true and actually official govt policy. So, what do you say @Drareg - is BoJo a "tosser" or not?Has the UK govt come up with something along those lines as well?
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Australia calling for more Masturbation/Prolactin
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I was just on another thread that claimed masturbation is pro-metabolic and nofap is unnatural...
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Australia is messed up I just found out that they have quarantine camps and that some have been forced to go there even without a positive COVID test. Looking more and more like they never had freedom, they were just a prison island.
that phenomenon is something that occurs in unhealthy people after sex or masturbation (weaker rise in prolactin but stays elevated longer). the fact the ancient greeks and many boxers, athletes completely abstained, not just from masturbation but also sex, proves that it's the ejaculation that causes the physical side effects otherwise they would have just done nofap instead of semen retention. plus, any differences in sex vs masturbation are going to be mental well being. it's like eating a pizza with your own hands vs having someone feed it to you. not to mention, people who are unhealthy to begin with are more likely to masturbate than have sex! there are religions that are anti masturbation but it seems to be based around moral issues similar to how they prohibit sex before marriage, prostitutes, etc! prolactin is what causes the refractory period, so anyone who's capable of masturbating or having sex repeatedly is likely in good health or has very low prolactin at least!
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sex positivity is such a counter-intuitive concept. the whole mystique of sexuality is that it is about 'what goes on behind closed doors' i.e. secrecy. To transform something that is inherently about body language, intuition, signals and impulse and to turn it into verbal communication is so embarrassing and just screams that you've never had good sex or that the author is dead inside. It deadens the whole spectacle of sex to have public discussions about what's normal or what's healthy or furthermore have a government health department use taxpayer money to do that... ******* disgrace tbh.
and i also think as innocent as that vague allegra illustration makes that ad seem that this type of sexual education as well as the debates around verbal consent are real threats to the separation of public and private life.
but on the topic of masturbation, i think in adolescence masturbation is inevitable and a way to familiarise yourself with your body.
Much of the discussion around abstaining from masturbation is marred by people who aren't mentally or physically healthy or who don't have strong libidos in the first place, or exhausted their libidinal energy by over-exposure to sexual materials like pornography and masturbating too much. It just seems like reacting to the shame they carry about the person they used to be, and resolving to become someone new which is actually very admirable and so i respect that. But i think it should go in tandem with actually trying to pursue someone to have sex with or creating a life in which you have other priorities that exhaust you.
In many cases the issue isn't the masturbation or the pornography it's an inherent kind of persona or kind of destructive experience which is characterised by lack of self-discipline and self-control, lack of confidence, lack of assurance about their own sexual ability etc. It seems like many violent sexual behaviours or sexual crimes also begin with these kind of issues of the ego. Most of the guys I know who went to single sex schools are (in their own terms) sexually maladapted as a result of having not been able to regularly platonically interact with women and condition themselves to be able to talk to them. I know this isn't a rule but just an observation that needs to be considered when taking advice from people on the internet is that many of them might be socially retarded.
If there truly is a way to sexually educate people, whether it be 'the talk' or school sex ed i think the central discussion should be around pleasure, feeling and acknowledging the fragility of the sexual ego, which in public discourse is tilted towards the female (consent discourse, lack of female pleasure) but not the male for whom there is actually a lot more riding on sexual performance in my opinion.
I think being in a meaningful, sexually fulfilling relationship is the real transformative experience, or at least finding someone with whom you are able to express that kind of sexual vulnerability that goes beyond your own ego, your own sexual performance, and becomes about a kind of higher consciousness or the loss of ego boundaries. In essence, raising the standards for what sex actually constitutes and increasing its value or currency in society. In and of itself that's a convincing argument to not masturbate, or at least masturbate less frequently. Phones and computers make it quite simple to block pornography, and the type of pleasure masturbation brings seems readily transferrable to other hobbies anyway.
And side note if we have a society in which people are going to actively consent to binge drinking or intoxication, then the issue of sexual consent is impossible. Not a free pass for everyone to take advantage of one another, but certainly in these highly charged discussions around rape culture and sexual assault it seems lost on many people that in university environments women are completely naive as to the motivations of the men they are interacting with under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and that sexual inference is complicated because actually a lot of people do not know what they want but have sex anyway. Such is the danger of refusing to accept differences between men and women especially during youth or young adulthood. Just my opinion
and i also think as innocent as that vague allegra illustration makes that ad seem that this type of sexual education as well as the debates around verbal consent are real threats to the separation of public and private life.
but on the topic of masturbation, i think in adolescence masturbation is inevitable and a way to familiarise yourself with your body.
Much of the discussion around abstaining from masturbation is marred by people who aren't mentally or physically healthy or who don't have strong libidos in the first place, or exhausted their libidinal energy by over-exposure to sexual materials like pornography and masturbating too much. It just seems like reacting to the shame they carry about the person they used to be, and resolving to become someone new which is actually very admirable and so i respect that. But i think it should go in tandem with actually trying to pursue someone to have sex with or creating a life in which you have other priorities that exhaust you.
In many cases the issue isn't the masturbation or the pornography it's an inherent kind of persona or kind of destructive experience which is characterised by lack of self-discipline and self-control, lack of confidence, lack of assurance about their own sexual ability etc. It seems like many violent sexual behaviours or sexual crimes also begin with these kind of issues of the ego. Most of the guys I know who went to single sex schools are (in their own terms) sexually maladapted as a result of having not been able to regularly platonically interact with women and condition themselves to be able to talk to them. I know this isn't a rule but just an observation that needs to be considered when taking advice from people on the internet is that many of them might be socially retarded.
If there truly is a way to sexually educate people, whether it be 'the talk' or school sex ed i think the central discussion should be around pleasure, feeling and acknowledging the fragility of the sexual ego, which in public discourse is tilted towards the female (consent discourse, lack of female pleasure) but not the male for whom there is actually a lot more riding on sexual performance in my opinion.
I think being in a meaningful, sexually fulfilling relationship is the real transformative experience, or at least finding someone with whom you are able to express that kind of sexual vulnerability that goes beyond your own ego, your own sexual performance, and becomes about a kind of higher consciousness or the loss of ego boundaries. In essence, raising the standards for what sex actually constitutes and increasing its value or currency in society. In and of itself that's a convincing argument to not masturbate, or at least masturbate less frequently. Phones and computers make it quite simple to block pornography, and the type of pleasure masturbation brings seems readily transferrable to other hobbies anyway.
And side note if we have a society in which people are going to actively consent to binge drinking or intoxication, then the issue of sexual consent is impossible. Not a free pass for everyone to take advantage of one another, but certainly in these highly charged discussions around rape culture and sexual assault it seems lost on many people that in university environments women are completely naive as to the motivations of the men they are interacting with under the influence of drugs and alcohol, and that sexual inference is complicated because actually a lot of people do not know what they want but have sex anyway. Such is the danger of refusing to accept differences between men and women especially during youth or young adulthood. Just my opinion
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and i forgot to say that in every culture in which men and women or any groups are forced apart based on custom and there is legal or social customs enforced which govern an individual's sexual behaviour and prevent sexual exploration between people, there is nearly always extreme sexual violence and rape. Many examples come to mind, most notably in the modern world India and ethnic conflicts in Africa but also a common practice during the American Civil War.
Perhaps a good counter to the supposed virtues of repression.
Perhaps a good counter to the supposed virtues of repression.
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