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At least 23 (!) Norwegians have died thus far after receiving the first dose of the Pfizer Vaccine.

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Yeah well you can't actually determine the safety of a vaccine in a few months.
 

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My boss was talking about how safe these Covid vaccines are, how they just “tell your body to produce an enzyme, that’s all! It’s really fascinating.” He says his niece is a scientist at NIH, and she is confident these vaccines are safe, especially considering that “they’ve been working on these for 9 years.”

Riiiiight.

Well intentioned, intelligent people are all climbing on board the covid vaccine train. We’re doomed.
 

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True, they have been working on them for years, for Rabies, Ebola, Zika among other things. One of Moderna's founders, an RNA protein research scientist, who later left Moderna, apparently wanted to explore this technology to create stem cells that could be used for treatment research for diseases like Parkinsons, Alzheimers, without using embyonic stem cells. Wanted an alternative for sound, ethical reasons. Lots of info on STATNEWS.com. And reading the history of Moderna I think scientists may possibly have been under a lot of pressure. And competition from Pfizer who was promised the govt would buy it.
The vaccine might be safe for most, short term, but repeated dosages? Every year? I am no antivaxxer but would be reluctant for my child to get this vaccine, who would have longer to live with any long term issues. As scary as Covid is, would rather wait than be first in line. Sorry for people forced to get it.
 

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True, they have been working on them for years, for Rabies, Ebola, Zika among other things. One of Moderna's founders, an RNA protein research scientist, who later left Moderna, apparently wanted to explore this technology to create stem cells that could be used for treatment research for diseases like Parkinsons, Alzheimers, without using embyonic stem cells. Wanted an alternative for sound, ethical reasons. Lots of info on STATNEWS.com. And reading the history of Moderna I think scientists may possibly have been under a lot of pressure. And competition from Pfizer who was promised the govt would buy it.
The vaccine might be safe for most, short term, but repeated dosages? Every year? I am no antivaxxer but would be reluctant for my child to get this vaccine, who would have longer to live with any long term issues. As scary as Covid is, would rather wait than be first in line. Sorry for people forced to get it.
But that’s just it, isn’t it?

How scary is Covid to the average person, especially young person? Not very.

Does this vaccine even reduce transmission rates? Nope. It doesn’t. It claims to reduce the severity of the symptoms, which, for the majority of healthy people, will be mild. So you’re taking an experimental vaccine with no long term testing and hoping that the side effects of this vaccine will be worth the reduction in symptoms from Covid if you ever catch it. Symptoms which, again, are mild for most.

But what about the elderly, who are at greatest risk for severe Covid illness? Well... it looks like Norway is discovering that those who are most at risk of suffering serious complications from Covid are also most at risk of suffering serious complications and even death from the so called vaccine! Hmmm....

And yet we are *all* expected to get this vaccine. We are all expected to be a part of this experiment, which based on what Moderna is suggesting will never end: repeated shots every year, bc covid is now endemic and they will need to alter the vaccine yearly as new strains develop.

Am I missing something here? Because this sounds like madness to me. Taking a novel mRNA vaccine that has only been tested on healthy humans for a short period of time, that does not claim to reduce transmission, only reduce symptoms, unleashing it on the population, likely making it mandatory, telling everyone we must take it to control the spread (even though it doesn’t reduce transmission) and also tacking on at the end, “oh yea, you still have to take precautions not to get covid, and this will probably be a yearly shot.. but just take it!”
 

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Some more cognitive dissonance:
Dr. gets vaccine, then gets Covid. Says it’s an “unfortunate coincidence.”

‘"I have been treating COVID patients for about a year and I didn't get sick. Now, right after getting the vaccine, it is a little ironic and unusual, so I had my self tested and unfortunately, it came back positive," said Toroghi.’

Hmmm... He’s quick to remind us though that even though the vaccine doesn’t prevent illness, we all still need to get it!

 

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IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PFIZER VACCINE.
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FROM THE CDC; 3,150 people vaccinated in ONE DAY are "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work" after vaccination.
This is a massive 2.7% of people who can no longer work after having the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/.../slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

Portuguese health worker, 41, dies two days after getting the Pfizer covid vaccine as her father says he 'wants answers'
https://trib.al/eEWi66p

Mexican doctor hospitalized after receiving COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.reuters.com/.../health-coronavirus-mexico...

Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
https://www.rt.com/.../511332-israel-vaccination.../

Wife of 'perfectly healthy' Miami doctor, 56, who died of a blood disorder 16 days after getting Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is certain it was triggered by the jab, as drug giant investigates first death with a suspected link to shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Miami-doctor-58-dies...

75-year-old Israeli man dies 2 hours after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293865

Death of Swiss man after Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.reuters.com/.../us-health-coronavirus-swiss...

88-year-old collapses and dies several hours after being vaccinated.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293952

Thousands negatively affected after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/thousands-negatively-affected...

Hospital worker with no prior allergies in intensive care with severe reaction after Pfizer Covid vaccine.
https://metro.co.uk/.../hospital-worker-in-intensive.../
 

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IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PFIZER VACCINE.
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FROM THE CDC; 3,150 people vaccinated in ONE DAY are "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work" after vaccination.
This is a massive 2.7% of people who can no longer work after having the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/.../slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

Portuguese health worker, 41, dies two days after getting the Pfizer covid vaccine as her father says he 'wants answers'
https://trib.al/eEWi66p

Mexican doctor hospitalized after receiving COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.reuters.com/.../health-coronavirus-mexico...

Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
https://www.rt.com/.../511332-israel-vaccination.../

Wife of 'perfectly healthy' Miami doctor, 56, who died of a blood disorder 16 days after getting Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is certain it was triggered by the jab, as drug giant investigates first death with a suspected link to shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Miami-doctor-58-dies...

75-year-old Israeli man dies 2 hours after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293865

Death of Swiss man after Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.reuters.com/.../us-health-coronavirus-swiss...

88-year-old collapses and dies several hours after being vaccinated.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293952

Thousands negatively affected after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/thousands-negatively-affected...

Hospital worker with no prior allergies in intensive care with severe reaction after Pfizer Covid vaccine.
https://metro.co.uk/.../hospital-worker-in-intensive.../
thank you for this post!! Maybe we should start a thread to document all the negative reactions as this is rolled out. Would be a good resource for those who want info to counter the endless propaganda pushing these vaccines...
 

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IT'S NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR THE PFIZER VACCINE.
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FROM THE CDC; 3,150 people vaccinated in ONE DAY are "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work" after vaccination.
This is a massive 2.7% of people who can no longer work after having the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/.../slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf

Portuguese health worker, 41, dies two days after getting the Pfizer covid vaccine as her father says he 'wants answers'
https://trib.al/eEWi66p

Mexican doctor hospitalized after receiving COVID-19 vaccine
https://www.reuters.com/.../health-coronavirus-mexico...

Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.
https://www.rt.com/.../511332-israel-vaccination.../

Wife of 'perfectly healthy' Miami doctor, 56, who died of a blood disorder 16 days after getting Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is certain it was triggered by the jab, as drug giant investigates first death with a suspected link to shot.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/.../Miami-doctor-58-dies...

75-year-old Israeli man dies 2 hours after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293865

Death of Swiss man after Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.reuters.com/.../us-health-coronavirus-swiss...

88-year-old collapses and dies several hours after being vaccinated.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/293952

Thousands negatively affected after getting Covid-19 vaccine.
https://m.theepochtimes.com/thousands-negatively-affected...

Hospital worker with no prior allergies in intensive care with severe reaction after Pfizer Covid vaccine.
https://metro.co.uk/.../hospital-worker-in-intensive.../
The first link doesn’t work though?
 

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Some more cognitive dissonance:
Dr. gets vaccine, then gets Covid. Says it’s an “unfortunate coincidence.”

‘"I have been treating COVID patients for about a year and I didn't get sick. Now, right after getting the vaccine, it is a little ironic and unusual, so I had my self tested and unfortunately, it came back positive," said Toroghi.’

Hmmm... He’s quick to remind us though that even though the vaccine doesn’t prevent illness, we all still need to get it!

Its all so sad. Seriously read Damian Garde's articles. The story of RNA research goes back for years. STATNEWS I'm terrible with links, there's a lot of reporting about it pre-Covid. The research goes back to the 90s. Covid appears to have been a fantastic opportunity for at least 2 RNA research BioTech companies to either get huge amounts of funding or a promise the Govt would buy the vaccine once they decided it was ready ( Pfizer). And because of the soaring stock market, the economy is helped, States have more money. I hope long term side effects wont be bad, but then Pfizer has already stated the death of the physician in Fla had nothing to do with the vaccine. I have always gotten vaccines in the past but this one? Noooo
 

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The first link doesn’t work though?
working fine for me...

heres full links again...


FROM THE CDC; 3,150 people vaccinated in ONE DAY are "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work" after vaccination.
This is a massive 2.7% of people who can no longer work after having the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/m...W9MXNATWwDYWK9wssVW6yky3UF2-bFaU7IqaRpsG9rrAk

Portuguese health worker, 41, dies two days after getting the Pfizer covid vaccine as her father says he 'wants answers'

Mexican doctor hospitalized after receiving COVID-19 vaccine
Mexican doctor hospitalized after receiving COVID-19 vaccine

Hundreds of Israelis get infected with Covid-19 after receiving Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine.

Wife of 'perfectly healthy' Miami doctor, 56, who died of a blood disorder 16 days after getting Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine is certain it was triggered by the jab, as drug giant investigates first death with a suspected link to shot.
Wife of 'healthy' doc who died after Covid jab fears it triggered death

75-year-old Israeli man dies 2 hours after getting Covid-19 vaccine.

Death of Swiss man after Pfizer vaccine.

88-year-old collapses and dies several hours after being vaccinated.

Thousands negatively affected after getting Covid-19 vaccine.

Hospital worker with no prior allergies in intensive care with severe reaction after Pfizer Covid vaccine.
 

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FROM THE CDC; 3,150 people vaccinated in ONE DAY are "unable to perform normal daily activities, unable to work" after vaccination.
This is a massive 2.7% of people who can no longer work after having the Pfizer vaccine.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/m...W9MXNATWwDYWK9wssVW6yky3UF2-bFaU7IqaRpsG9rrAk
Thank you for this. The table on page 6 is very useful. Having this info come from official mainstream sources is essential.

Does somebody have a guide for idiots on what we best know that these vaccines actually do? When I tell people that these vaccines operate at a genetic level, a google search brings up mainstream media sources (all very vaguely written) "debunking" of any concerns that this vaccine could cause long term genetic changes. I both want to understand it better myself and I want to be able to present a source that cannot be denied (that document above comes from the CDC, that's the kind of thing we need more of).
 

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Israel starts vaccinating its population like crazy for the past 30 days and 'all of a sudden' it has the HIGHEST amount of positive cases/day and COVID-19 deaths/day.
 

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Ah, figured it out: the cdc website won’t let you access it if you’re using a VPN. I had to disconnect from my VPN for the link to work.

thanks!
 

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Pls move the side effect and casualties collection to a separate thread dedicated to that purpose. No polluting of that thread and if possible, msm links or official statements of authorities and state/health bodies.


@GuyLivingman

These immediate or short term deaths and serious side effects have nothing to do with genetic changes. They’re caused by abberant and deranged immune reactions to either the nano-Lipid component of the vaccine or the mRNA components that are the most bewildering: the modified, synthetic nucleosides (n-methyl-pseudouridine)

There are no feasible mechanisms for DNA alterations caused by the vaccines.

But the synthetic nucleosides might be integrated into endogenous mRNA if they are not degraded in the p-bodies of the cells infected. I can’t find any publications on that.
If endogenous mRNA that are building plans for proteins integrate unususal nucleosides in place of non-synthetic nucleosides that might change the intended synthesis of proteins - that might have severe long term consequences.

Nothing of that is proven though, but it’s the only Potential long term mechanisms That might be harmful
 

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An elderly man held in a French nursing home died two hours after receiving the vaccine​




An 82-year-old Belgian man has died 5 days after being vaccinated against the coronavirus​


Germany investigates the death of 10 people within four days following their vaccination​

 
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UAE: Record positive Covid cases and hospitalizations after UAE started mass mRNA vaccinations last month. Don't give me that Christmas spike bull****, because the UAE doesn't observe it. Same pattern in Israel. Same pattern in the UK. Same pattern in Spain etc etc. These mRNA vaccines are like booster rockets for COVID and it is creating new wave upon new wave upon new wave.
 
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UAE: Record positive Covid cases and hospitalizations after UAE started mass mRNA vaccinations last month. Don't give me that Christmas spike bull****, because the UAE doesn't observe it. Same pattern in Israel. Same pattern in the UK. Same pattern in Spain etc etc. These mRNA vaccines are like booster rockets for COVID and it is creating new wave upon new wave upon new wave.

wow. You are right. This is very disturbing.
 

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