Arterial Thoracic Outlet Syndrome And Back Pain

[Thoushant]

Overcoming Chronic Neck Pain: Postural Causes and A Unique Exercise Fix

How's your posture otherwise? Hips, flared ribs, head? Care to share a side and front view?

I have a bunch of muscles I think you should focus on, but probably shooting in the dark without more information.

Do you have a source or progression suggestion for the rotation planks you mentioned? Ive been meaning to start

 

[ebs]

waking and a few daytime temps and heart rate

So you're saying that healthy thyroid blood work is not indicative of healthy thyroid?

So if my TSH came back at 1.3 I might still be hypothroid? If we can't trust these numbers anymore then I don't know...

 

[ecstatichamster]

So you're saying that healthy thyroid blood work is not indicative of healthy thyroid?

So if my TSH came back at 1.3 I might still be hypothroid? If we can't trust these numbers anymore then I don't know...

Yes. You are probably hypo. You test from waking temps and heartrate and throughout the day. Blood tests are not valuable.

 

[ebs]

As for for the OP's issue, I'm wondering what your exact symptoms are and how it was diagnosed?

I've been having issues with pain stemming from the right shoulder blade area with some mild muscle spasm that can go up to my neck and even chest. Coincidentally since this problem started (I've determined that the root cause are probably trigger points) my right hand has been notably colder than my left hand. I found out through my own research and talking with specialists that this is because the muscles in the shoulder girdle are connected to the pectoral muscles in the chest, through which the artery that supplies the arm goes. If there are muscle issues in the shoulder (in my case most likely because of trigger points) this will also effect the pectorals, impairing blood supply. So in a way my symptoms are a bit similar to yours, although the only issue I have is a colder right hand without any loss of strenght or movement.

My hypothesis is that this started with dorsal scapular nerve irritation/entrapment leading to formation of trigger points along its path or visa versa. I state this because I had very sharp pain through my arm when it started which has since resolved while the pain along the shoulder blade remains. The nastiest symptoms I have are the neurological ones such as brain fog, agitation, fatigue and melancholy, notably when there's pressure on the area in certain body positions which is why I suspect it's because of irritation of the nerve. I'm going to find out within two weeks whether this is indeed the case when I'm getting a nerve injection/block by a pain specialist. Through this proces of suffering I've learned a great deal about the anatomy of this area, pain and trigger points and I'm already toying with the latter (lacrosse ball, backnobber, stretches, red light etc.) which seems to be slowly paying off. I'm also starting with dry needling.

These trigger points can be stubborn SOB's and can cause all kinds of issues throughout the body and perhaps yours too, so you might want to look into it. It is now believed that they are an often overlooked cause of many cases of chronic pain. This phenomenon is known as myofascial pain syndrome.

 

[ebs]

Yes. You are probably hypo. You test from waking temps and heartrate and throughout the day. Blood tests are not valuable.

How do you know? I only told you my latest TSH blood work, which is even according to the Ray Peat lecture a decent number.

 

[ecstatichamster]

Symptoms. First thing to check. Dr Peat days he doesn’t trust blood tests for this. Read Broda Barnes. And Dr Peat said nobody he’d ever seen us healthy with TSH over a half.

 

[ebs]

Symptoms. First thing to check. Dr Peat days he doesn’t trust blood tests for this. Read Broda Barnes. And Dr Peat said nobody he’d ever seen us healthy with TSH over a half.

I think that's an extremist view and probably means that 99.9% of the human population is unhealthy. From what I've seen this can only be achieved with thyroid manipulation, which is what RP is doing.

As for the symptoms, you may be right. But at the time of these tests (done twice in July) I've felt better than I ever did (when TSH was much higher) so I believe there is definitely a correlation.