Are There Any Peat-friendly Probiotics?

[DaveFoster]

So here's my protocol taken from funk:

14 days:
- Rifaximin 550 mg x3/day
- Neomycin 500mg x2/day
- Activated charcoal 1 g before bed
- Supplement that destroys biofilm formation
- Morning carrot salad

BAM. Sterile gut achieved.

 

[DaveFoster]

I don't always do probiotics. But when I do, they produce antibiotics

 

[beachbum]

Hi all,

Been off this site for a while. Just wanted to say that I found out after all these years of trying probiotics thinking it would help my me but found out im highly allergic to them. Been doing soooooooo much better without them.

 

[Nstocks]

So, Biosporin for SIBO, IBS and perhaps H.pylori?

(to help with pain and discomfort when eating anything)

 

[Dayman]

Has anyone used this website?
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[beachbum]

Hello everyone,

I just wanted to let you all know I don't take probiotics and yogurt or Kiefer and anything like it. I am extremely allergic to them.

Thank you for your replies.

 

[Rivka]

So here's my protocol taken from funk:

14 days:
- Rifaximin 550 mg x3/day
- Neomycin 500mg x2/day
- Activated charcoal 1 g before bed
- Supplement that destroys biofilm formation
- Morning carrot salad

BAM. Sterile gut achieved.

Did you feel better after this protocol or did you need to repeat it?

 

[DaveFoster]

Did you feel better after this protocol or did you need to repeat it?

I ended up doing Flagyl and Keflex (metronizdazole and cephalexin). The run through was okay; I think it helped. Keeping the bowels moving is important (cascara and coffee help for this).

 

[LeeLemonoil]

A fairly well written, easy to undertan primer about the assumed/evidenced action of some strains on affective disorders and mental health in general:
Psychobiotics: Probiotics for Better Mental Health

also, same blog, somewhat older:

The Real Benefits of Probiotics for Your Brain

with mention of endotoxins and how to mitigate them with some cultures

 

[tomisonbottom]

Apparently Peat used Biosporin cultured in milk (or possibly something else). Biosporin contains the B. Subtilis and B. Licheniformis he mentioned.

Here's a warning about B. Subtilis that could be particularly relevant to Peat-peeps that might also use antibiotics.

Do you remember where you heard this (him using biosporin) ? From peat himself?

 

[Kyle M]

So here's my protocol taken from funk:

14 days:
- Rifaximin 550 mg x3/day
- Neomycin 500mg x2/day
- Activated charcoal 1 g before bed
- Supplement that destroys biofilm formation
- Morning carrot salad

BAM. Sterile gut achieved.

Where did you get neomycin? I'm currently on a Rifaximin protocol, about halfway through a 20 day 400 mg 4x/day treatment, mixed with NAC (for biofilm disruption) and FC Cidal/Biocide herbal antibiotics

 

[EIRE24]

Where did you get neomycin? I'm currently on a Rifaximin protocol, about halfway through a 20 day 400 mg 4x/day treatment, mixed with NAC (for biofilm disruption) and FC Cidal/Biocide herbal antibiotics

What are you eating?

 

[Kyle M]

What are you eating?

A mixed diet, I cut down on sugar a little as this was giving me bloating symptoms especially when mixed with slower-digesting foods.

 

[DaveFoster]

Where did you get neomycin? I'm currently on a Rifaximin protocol, about halfway through a 20 day 400 mg 4x/day treatment, mixed with NAC (for biofilm disruption) and FC Cidal/Biocide herbal antibiotics

I ended up doing metronidazole and cephalexin. Neomycin and rifaximin would be the nuclear option, and paired with activated charcoal, "Bye, bye." bugs.

 

[EIRE24]

I ended up doing metronidazole and cephalexin. Neomycin and rifaximin would be the nuclear option, and paired with activated charcoal, "Bye, bye." bugs.

All bugs? You think this would work like an antibiotic? Trying to get my hands on antibiotics is impossible.

 

[walker_in_aus]

All bugs? You think this would work like an antibiotic? Trying to get my hands on antibiotics is impossible.

Don't dismiss raw garlic as an "antibiotic". It's pretty effective but has to be raw. I actually worked in a lab who were testing bacteriophages, antibiotics and raw garlic. The raw garlic had VERY significant effects on culture growth.

I have also had h. pylori and did a week of raw garlic juice twice a day and it had significant effects. I'm doing it again a year later and adding in carrot salad as well to kill em and move em. So far I've had the metallic taste of them dying for two days, and then a rapid improvement in stool types. It's been the least unpleasant gut cleansing I've tried. Charcoal hurts haha!

 

[DaveFoster]

All bugs? You think this would work like an antibiotic? Trying to get my hands on antibiotics is impossible.

Certain things disrupt biolfilms (like allicin in raw garlic), but activated charcoal can help reduce the overgrowth of bacteria.

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[Lucenzo01]

Endotoxin by definition are from gram-negative bacteria. Most probiotics are gram-positive lactic acid bacteria, so they do not produce endotoxin. Many antibiotics like penicillin are actually more effective against gram-positive bacteria and would be counter productive in some circumstances in my opinion. I think Peat simplifies the gut flora question and is one short coming of his approach.

hoppimike - I would reccomend florastor (S. Boulardii). There are a number of studies that show it is as effective as antibiotics in getting rid of some parasitic organisms. It stimulates the gut to produce sIga antibodies, so ensure you are consuming adequate zinc and vitamin a. (eat liver), and rotate on/off. Otherwise most lactic acid bacteria (LAB) are probably OK as long as the source doesn't contain too much lactic acid. It is much more economical though to use pre-biotics to increase LAB. From my research Galactooligosaccharides are the safest; prebiotics like inulin and FOS are not selective enough and actually can feed pathogenic bacteria. I had good success with a product called Galactomune by klaire labs. It included beta glucan which has strong anti-cancer and anti-inflammatory effects on the body and stimulates the immune system. I think S. Boulardii + Galactomune and maybe a LAB probiotic is a decent approach if you have digestive problems that are resistant to diet-modification alone. Ideally you should get stool tests and more targeted antibiotics to treat any infection you may have. This was my focus for a while on my blog - recomposition.blogspot.com

I would add lactulose as it's used to clear ammonia.

 

[EIRE24]

Don't dismiss raw garlic as an "antibiotic". It's pretty effective but has to be raw. I actually worked in a lab who were testing bacteriophages, antibiotics and raw garlic. The raw garlic had VERY significant effects on culture growth.

I have also had h. pylori and did a week of raw garlic juice twice a day and it had significant effects. I'm doing it again a year later and adding in carrot salad as well to kill em and move em. So far I've had the metallic taste of them dying for two days, and then a rapid improvement in stool types. It's been the least unpleasant gut cleansing I've tried. Charcoal hurts haha!

Thanks for the info. Would this be effective if I still ate food while doing this? It isnt one of those fasting things?

 

[EIRE24]

Certain things disrupt biolfilms (like allicin in raw garlic), but activated charcoal can help reduce the overgrowth of bacteria.

Free Shipping on Fish Cycline & Fish Cycline Forte - Tetracycline 250 mg and 500 mg Fish Antibiotic

Fish antibiotic?