Are Solid, Regular Errections Actually A Good Marker Of Health?

[ddjd]

Similar situation here. Recently I've had some improvement with long term problems like anxiety and poor sleep but my sex drive is all but gone. It doesn't really bother me, in fact I rather like it that way. However loss of libido is a symptom in anorexia, probably due to lowered sex steroids. This makes me concerned that I'm undereating or not getting some essential nutrients.
Not sure whether this is due to lower estrogen or not. My libido was never high but it was relatively "healthiest" when I was running on stress: low carb, IF, exercise. Physically I was in good shape then, leaner and more muscular than I am now.

Interesting Mipp. I went for a big night out the other night after two weeks off pretty much zero errections/ zero libido.

I drunk about 10-15 beers so highly Estrogenic.

Hangover day, my libido through the roof, had sex twice with girlfriend after two weeks of nothing.

It's undoubtedly the estrogen

 

[ddjd]

Libido is 90% what happens in your brain, and here the most important are neurosteroids and things like dopamine. If you have substandard thyroid output you can compensate for that partially even just by sleeping in really warm clothes to maintain your neurosteroids at close to 18-year old levels. It's the difference between feeling asexual and wanting to fxxx everything in sight.

Needing porn and unable to get aroused by 'basic' things is indicative of a screwed dopamine system (in that case stop watching porn) or screwed hormones/neurosteroids which you need to fix your health for.
By basic I mean you should be able to get an erection just from standing next to an attractive female or even using your imagination for very basic things like kissing. If you don't get hard from that you have some problems going on most likely.

I've been through all ends of the libido spectrum as my health changed and in my experience the states where my libido was the highest were usually the healthiest overall.

Erection quality itself is a bit of a different subject where some other factors are involved, but usually you need to have first and foremost enough stimulation from the brain. Only after that can you say, yeah I feel extremely aroused but my erections aren't what they should be. Otherwise, tackle the libido first.

I hope when you say very low estrogen you're actually measuring this on a lab test and not just going by intuition of what you think you feel is low estrogen. What did you do to lower it that much anyway? I can't imagine lowering it to the level of pharmaceuticals just with food and basic supplements.

I'd have to disagree with your assertion that high libido = good health

Also e2 tests are notoriously inaccurate. So I got prolactin instead and it was at 4. So I think that's a good indicator of my lowered estrogenic state. I was 11 prior to starting.

 

[MyUsernameHere]

I'd have to disagree with your assertion that high libido = good health

Also e2 tests are notoriously inaccurate. So I got prolactin instead and it was at 4. So I think that's a good indicator of my lowered estrogenic state. I was 11 prior to starting.

Depends what is causing your high libido, something like hyperandrogenism is probably not good. But it should naturally be high when you are young. That was just my observation. Mine is crap these days unless I bio-hack a ton of things and it has me worried because I can't support a relationship with this kind of dodgy libido. I'd rather it be high all day at least then I'd know I could perform whenever. It's hard to 'give it all' in the bedroom when you just don't feel like it, and nothing's worse than having your partner being super into making love and you're just being 'meh'. Wish I could find a permanent way to keep it high for good but it seems to be too tied to general health to be able to just take a supplement and patch it up for the time being.

 

[mipp]

Interesting Mipp. I went for a big night out the other night after two weeks off pretty much zero errections/ zero libido.

I drunk about 10-15 beers so highly Estrogenic.

Hangover day, my libido through the roof, had sex twice with girlfriend after two weeks of nothing.

It's undoubtedly the estrogen

I wrote about it before in another thread that alcohol (vodka) increases my libido and often makes me feel really good in general the following day. I dont know why it has this effect but my guess would be that it speeds up bowel movement and clears out the gut lowering endotoxin. Or maybe there is rebound effect and steroids, including test and estrogens, actually rise when alcohol is fully metabolised and out of the system.

 

[raypeatclips]

I wrote about it before in another thread that alcohol (vodka) increases my libido and often makes me feel really good in general the following day. I dont know why it has this effect but my guess would be that it speeds up bowel movement and clears out the gut lowering endotoxin. Or maybe there is rebound effect and steroids, including test and estrogens, actually rise when alcohol is fully metabolised and out of the system.

Maybe you might find this post of haidut's interesting I saw the other day. Vodka seems probably one of the "best" alcohols to drink, so any benefits you could get from it you'll probably get from vodka, and any negatives are diminished (compared to beer, wines, dark whiskey etc)

Palmitic Acid Is Androgen Agonist, Increases Androgen Synthesis, Decreases Cortisol

 

[A.R]

Hey so this is my anti estrogen list and typically I only use 2-3 different things any one day. I think it's good to rotate things.

- Androsterone
- iodine lugols
- vitamin E
- vitamin A
- Progesterone
- Pregnenolone
- 5adhp
- 11KetoDht
- zinc
- b2r5p
- b1
- k2mk4
- activated charcoal
- carrots/ bamboo
- antibiotics
- phytol
- methionine
- selenium
- calcium d glucarate
- caffeine
- Aspirin
- vit d
- gonadin
- pau D'arco
- white button mushrooms
- Niacinamide

Do you use a separate phytol supplement, or is that just the Gonadin?

Thanks

 

[HealthisWealth]

Libido is 90% what happens in your brain, and here the most important are neurosteroids and things like dopamine. If you have substandard thyroid output you can compensate for that partially even just by sleeping in really warm clothes to maintain your neurosteroids at close to 18-year old levels. It's the difference between feeling asexual and wanting to fxxx everything in sight.

Needing porn and unable to get aroused by 'basic' things is indicative of a screwed dopamine system (in that case stop watching porn) or screwed hormones/neurosteroids which you need to fix your health for.
By basic I mean you should be able to get an erection just from standing next to an attractive female or even using your imagination for very basic things like kissing. If you don't get hard from that you have some problems going on most likely.

I've been through all ends of the libido spectrum as my health changed and in my experience the states where my libido was the highest were usually the healthiest overall.

Erection quality itself is a bit of a different subject where some other factors are involved, but usually you need to have first and foremost enough stimulation from the brain. Only after that can you say, yeah I feel extremely aroused but my erections aren't what they should be. Otherwise, tackle the libido first.

I hope when you say very low estrogen you're actually measuring this on a lab test and not just going by intuition of what you think you feel is low estrogen. What did you do to lower it that much anyway? I can't imagine lowering it to the level of pharmaceuticals just with food and basic supplements.

I remember when i was still in my puberty stages..... im always "erect"....

 

[theLaw]

The only time I can recall being maybe a little sexually dysfunctional was when I was dieting through a summer to compete in the fall. It probably only happened a couple of times but then again couldve been a disinterest but my bodyfat levels were so insanely low that I imagine my androgens and thyroid were probably seriously affected.

It was as if I had a mental interest but my physical interest was just kinda like "eh..nah"

Someone once posted that the most androgenic substance on the planet was food.

 

[Aleeri]

Interesting Mipp. I went for a big night out the other night after two weeks off pretty much zero errections/ zero libido.

I drunk about 10-15 beers so highly Estrogenic.

Hangover day, my libido through the roof, had sex twice with girlfriend after two weeks of nothing.

It's undoubtedly the estrogen

It is not estrogen, it has to do with the negative feedback loop of neurotransmitters, I get the same on any type of alcohol, plain vodka for example.

I suspect it has to do with the dopamine system, hangover people always tend to seek out pleasurable rewards that work on this such as sex, junk food, and television, while not having enough focus/drive for dopamine reliant tasks that require good cognition.

Alcohol in itself lowers testosterone if overdone. I think in a hangover state you are suppressed and the body overcompensates which is where the libido increase comes from.

If it was only a question of estrogen then anything estrogenic such as raw soy when consumed would increase libido, which is not the case.

 

[ddjd]

If it was only a question of estrogen then anything estrogenic such as raw soy when consumed would increase libido, which is not the case.

give me a few days, i will do this exact test and get back to you

 

[Aleeri]

give me a few days, i will do this exact test and get back to you

Cool, curious to hear how it goes!

 

[Andman]

have seen similar experiences a few times over the years, especially on places like reddit and longecity

quite a few people report that the only time they have any kind of cest for life/socializing/libido etc is when hungover

 

[Braveheart]

have seen similar experieHnces a few times over the years, especially on places like reddit and longecity

quite a few people report that the only time they have any kind of cest for life/socializing/libido etc is when hungover

have seen similar experiences a few times over the years, especially on places like reddit and longecity

quite a few people report that the only time they have any kind of cest for life/socializing/libido etc is when hungover

I asked Haidut about this once...his reply:
"Alcohol is a very potent stimulator of the enzyme 17,20-lyase which is the limiting step in synthesizing androgens from pregnenolone. So, its acute effects are to stimulate libido but if done chronically it eventually suppresses gonadal function. This probably explains why people having up to 3 drink a night enjoy better health and robust sex life while drinking more than that leads to sexual dysfunction."

 

[B-styles]

What if you are now experiencing "normal" libido? But compared to estrogen-induced libido, this seems almost "asexual." I guess this is completely wrong, because you would know if your libido is good or not, it just reminds me of the estrogen Peat quote.

"High estrogen does sometimes cause insatiable sexual interest, partly because it increases adrenal androgens, and partly by inhibiting satisfying orgasms. Too much progesterone can suppress or neutralize the androgens. Thyroid is the best way to regulate the system, keeping libido up, making orgasms satisfying"

What if modern day people think high estrogen sexual interest is normal, when it isn't? You know your body best though.

Interesting and good point.

 

[ddjd]

I asked Haidut about this once...his reply:
"Alcohol is a very potent stimulator of the enzyme 17,20-lyase which is the limiting step in synthesizing androgens from pregnenolone. So, its acute effects are to stimulate libido but if done chronically it eventually suppresses gonadal function. This probably explains why people having up to 3 drink a night enjoy better health and robust sex life while drinking more than that leads to sexual dysfunction."

I still think it's an estrogen issue. I don't agree with the above. The only way for me to test is to try something else that will significantly raise my estrogen and see if it causes a lift in libido or not.

I'm not that keen on soy but could do it. Any other ideas for estrogen raisers as part of this experiment??

 

[Andman]

I still think it's an estrogen issue. I don't agree with the above. The only way for me to test is to try something else that will significantly raise my estrogen and see if it causes a lift in libido or not.

I'm not that keen on soy but could do it. Any other ideas for estrogen raisers as part of this experiment??

how about some dhea?

 

[Ron J]

I asked Haidut about this once...his reply:
"Alcohol is a very potent stimulator of the enzyme 17,20-lyase which is the limiting step in synthesizing androgens from pregnenolone. So, its acute effects are to stimulate libido but if done chronically it eventually suppresses gonadal function. This probably explains why people having up to 3 drink a night enjoy better health and robust sex life while drinking more than that leads to sexual dysfunction."

Is there anything else that can achieve the same as alcohol with less/no drawbacks?

 

[ddjd]

how about some dhea?

yeah true, in high amounts it might have that effect. it usually keeps estrogen down for me in low amounts, but i could try that

 

[ddjd]

Do you use a separate phytol supplement, or is that just the Gonadin?

Thanks

just saw this online, not sure if its the same thing haidut puts in his gonadin but looks interesting
Buy Phytol | Organic Food Grade Terpenes For Sale

 

[Steene]

I still think it's an estrogen issue. I don't agree with the above. The only way for me to test is to try something else that will significantly raise my estrogen and see if it causes a lift in libido or not.

I'm not that keen on soy but could do it. Any other ideas for estrogen raisers as part of this experiment??

Thats also my opinion. After some months of low estrogen (not borderline low) I am finally in balance sexually wise. No intrusive sexual thoughts, no 'I have to orgasm at least one more time or I am not satisfied feeling', no need for masturbation or porn and of course not horny like a teenager because of every semi attractive woman I see.

If there is something like a healthy libido then it is controlled by DHT and DHT itself lowers estrogen significantly. It's a 'feeling in control libido' which feels like you can chose whenever you want to have intercourse or simply drop the thought of it within a glimpse. I raised DHT simply by taking it or optimising it via regular supplements (5AR1/2 up-regulation, etc.) which can be tricky because of occasional lack of sleep it can be lower temporally.