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When 1000 people die nobody bats an eye
To save 1000 people we will shut down a country
Its obviously not maths
I have family in Nebraska they are definitely staying home. But I don't agree with any lockdown. Quarantine the sick not the healthy.I agree. As of April 22, 8 states had not locked down.
The leaders of Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming have taken steps to limit the size of gatherings, close schools and some nonessential businesses, and prohibit on-site dining at restaurants. But they have stopped short of directing all residents to stay home except for essential business.
These eight states haven't issued stay-at-home orders to fight the coronavirus outbreak
Total Deaths per million population
US average , , , , , , , 146 from Coronavirus Update (Live): 2,695,418 Cases and 188,802 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer and states are from United States Coronavirus: 866,148 Cases and 48,868 Deaths - Worldometer
Arkansas . . . . . . . . . . 15
Iowa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
North Dakota . . . . . . 20
South Dakota . . . . . . 10
Oklahoma . . . . . . . . . 46
Nebraska. . . . . . . . . . 24
Utah . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11
Wyoming . . . . . . . . . 10
These states seem to be doing much better than the national average here in the US both in terms of deaths per million and in terms of keeping their state economies functioning. I wonder if their numbers would have been significantly different if they lockdowned in accordance with feds recommendation.
Do we need another couple weeks of a blanket lockdown in each of the other 48 states? Are these numbers yet another elephant in the room?
What would be the optimal humidity range in the room / house?Modifying Humidity:
There is no evidence that modifying humidity (either increasing humidity in dry climates, or reducing humidity in hot and humid climates) is an effective intervention, and this is not recommended because of concerns about cost, feasibility and safety.
I've used a humidifier before during winter months where indoor heaters dry up the air. It certainly helps. I've even brought my own humidifier into a hospital room when caring for my mom, as the hospital room was simply very dry.
I don't care about WHO's recommendations many times. It just parrots the misguided "NO EVIDENCE" reasoning so often used by cocky medical experts.
There is such a thing about air being too dry that it dries up our nasal passages and mucous linings, making them less effective in doing their job of trapping contaminants and pathogens. If it's too dry, then increasing the humidity. Of course, too much humidity is not good either as it promotes growth of molds.
Awesome, thank you!I remember that range to be 40-70%.
WHO recommendations published 2019-10:
Non-pharmaceutical public health measures for mitigating the risk and impact of epidemic and pandemic influenza
Not recommended in any circumstances:
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- UV light
- Modifying humidity
- Contact tracing
- Quarantine of exposed individuals
- Entry and exit screening
- Border closure
I agree. As of April 22, 8 states had not locked down.
The leaders of Arkansas, Iowa, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming have taken steps to limit the size of gatherings, close schools and some nonessential businesses, and prohibit on-site dining at restaurants. But they have stopped short of directing all residents to stay home except for essential business.
These eight states haven't issued stay-at-home orders to fight the coronavirus outbreak
Total Deaths per million population
US average , , , , , , , 146 from Coronavirus Update (Live): 2,695,418 Cases and 188,802 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer and states are from United States Coronavirus: 866,148 Cases and 48,868 Deaths - Worldometer
Arkansas . . . . . . . . . . 15
Iowa . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 31
North Dakota . . . . . . 20
South Dakota . . . . . . 10
Oklahoma . . . . . . . . . 46
Nebraska. . . . . . . . . . 24
Utah . . . . . . . . . . . . . .11
Wyoming . . . . . . . . . 10
These states seem to be doing much better than the national average here in the US both in terms of deaths per million and in terms of keeping their state economies functioning. I wonder if their numbers would have been significantly different if they lockdowned in accordance with feds recommendation.
Do we need another couple weeks of a blanket lockdown in each of the other 48 states? Are these numbers yet another elephant in the room?
How do you figure deaths per million for Texas? I'm confused what calculation you did.
More people in Germany voicing their concerns (paper in German) ...
Thesenpapier zur Pandemie durch SARS-CoV-2/Covid-19: Datenbasis verbessern, Prävention gezielt weiterentwickeln, Bürgerrechte wahren
This is a statement that was prepared by an interdisciplinary team of six specialists from different universities and other institutions/organizations:
They discuss in detail:
They make suggestions of how to better handle the crisis better, how to protect the vulnerable etc.
- the lack of meaningful data
- the way data a communicated by the authorities (fearmongering)
- the lack of effectiveness of the containment measures
- the risk that is associated with the flattening of the curve (second wave)
- the social injustice of the measures
- that the measures are disproportionality
- that our liberty rights are taken away from us in an unlawful way
- how we are becoming an authoritarian Big Brother state
- ...
Please read!
I performed no calculations. I just reported the data at United States Coronavirus: 1,012,147 Cases and 56,933 Deaths - Worldometer. Currently, Texas is listed as having 24 deaths per million. The data is updated everyday.
It is interesting to sort the death per million column by clicking one of the small arrows in the header (they are in shadow) to see where Texas ranks in the mix. Once you have sorted the data for that column, you have to count how many other states have a lower number. Today, Texas is number 10 from having the lowest count per million. It is right in there with states that had no lockdown.