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I don't think you can be a lying, blaspheming, fornicator and be worthy of eternal life, no.I do understand what you mean. It's our reasonable service to give ourselves wholly to God that He may use us for some good.
The only question remaining is... do you honestly believe that - as the lying, blaspheming, fornicator you are lawfully judged as - you are worthy of a perfect, Holy God's eternal heaven of life? Are you certain that you'll make the cut based on your life's work?
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Isaiah 64:6
[6] But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
Romans 3:10
[10] As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:23-28
[23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
[24] Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
[25] Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
[26] To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
[27] Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
[28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
Thank you. I've been praying for clarity in regards to certain aspects of one's spiritual life recently and this addressed the core of my inquiry.I don't think you can be a lying, blaspheming, fornicator and be worthy of eternal life, no.
I don't think you can let God work through you and still do all those things either. I have committed those sins you mentioned, but I have also repented them because I realized what a filthy person it made me, how out of touch with the creator and creation, and I can say honestly that one cannot commit them unless one is deluded by worldly things and then then lets his heart seek them. Removing the illusion cuts sin at its root, but so does having a a still heart (being intentionless). For one who quiets himself, the tasks of the day are apparent and joy comes readily, and he finds himself repelled by sin as water is repelled by high ground- not really repelled at all, but still never getting there because it is unnattural. To get there, it needs to be taken there by your own will, counter to the will of God. Consider your sin the water pumped to the high ground by none other than yours truly, more than likely energized by the promise of pleasure.
Self control is not equivalent to letting God work through you I don't think, but so often it is done in the pursuit of self-betterment - perhaps you could call it the grey that is turning you from black to white. It requires a mistake in understanding, yes, and that is not ideal, but for many it is a necessary step to learning that you do not need to grapple with yourself to be a good person. You just need to surrender your entire self, even parts that you think belong to you, since the only thing that belongs to you is your divine spirit, uncreated and imperceptible. The best thing you (your spirit) can do is be free and let life follow its natural course, not caught up in the grimy, illusory details of earthly matters. Surrender yourself to the creator.
God is with you, in you, and of you. There is nothing but God. Consider the mystery of your own being and you can find only the divine (eventually). That is how some people have come to this realization. But those same people will tell you that a life without sin, a life where you seek nothing, is both the final step in the path to that realization, and is the path of life after that realization. In doing nothing you will find God, and in finding God you will realize there is nothing to do, nothing to think. He does not need your enthusiasm. Your body and mind are his and your spirit is there to witness it all. When it is time for you to act you will act if you have it together. So it's good to chill and enjoy, easier said than done with all the craziness and our idiotic tendencies.
You are very welcome, but I tell you, my words fall far short of the truth.Thank you. I've been praying for clarity in regards to certain aspects of one's spiritual life recently and this addressed the core of my inquiry.
These notions seem well-intentioned and certainly convey a realization of faith being the only true source of divinity.I don't think you can be a lying, blaspheming, fornicator and be worthy of eternal life, no.
I don't think you can let God work through you and still do all those things either. I have committed those sins you mentioned, but I have also repented them because I realized what a filthy person it made me, how out of touch with the creator and creation, and I can say honestly that one cannot commit them unless one is deluded by worldly things and then then lets his heart seek them. Removing the illusion cuts sin at its root, but so does having a a still heart (being intentionless). For one who quiets himself, the tasks of the day are apparent and joy comes readily, and he finds himself repelled by sin as water is repelled by high ground- not really repelled at all, but still never getting there because it is unnattural. To get there, it needs to be taken there by your own will, counter to the will of God. Consider your sin the water pumped to the high ground by none other than yours truly, more than likely energized by the promise of pleasure.
Self control is not equivalent to letting God work through you I don't think, but so often it is done in the pursuit of self-betterment - perhaps you could call it the grey that is turning you from black to white. It requires a mistake in understanding, yes, and that is not ideal, but for many it is a necessary step to learning that you do not need to grapple with yourself to be a good person. You just need to surrender your entire self, even parts that you think belong to you, since the only thing that belongs to you is your divine spirit, uncreated and imperceptible. The best thing you (your spirit) can do is be free and let life follow its natural course, not caught up in the grimy, illusory details of earthly matters.
God is with you, in you, and of you. There is nothing but God. Consider the mystery of your own being and you can find only the divine (eventually). That is how some people have come to this realization. But those same people will tell you that a life without sin, a life where you seek nothing, is both the final step in the path to that realization, and is the path of life after that realization. In doing nothing you will find God, and in finding God you will realize there is nothing to do, nothing to think. He does not need your enthusiasm. Your body and mind are his and your spirit is there to witness it all. When it is time for you to act you will act if you have it together. So it's good to chill and enjoy, easier said than done with all the craziness and our idiotic tendencies.
So then... you're saying that the only true God is the one that we receive of ourselves(?)I don't call the divine by any name personally. Seeing as creation and the creator are one and the same, there is only one. Those who worship false gods are worshipping gods that they have received from others.
I haven't written to you all about notions, and when explaining what I mean, I try not to speak about anything that I have not noticed myself. I think it immoral to guess about these things and then speak of them as if they are the truth.
I am saying that anyone can perceive the true God, and that is the one God we all share. Anything else is imagined. There is a true God whether or not one understands that this is the case. He is both the perceiving and that which is perceived. He is the awake-ness and that which we are awake to. I have heard God described as the lightless light.So then... you're saying that the only true God is the one that we receive of ourselves(?)
Yet we ourselves are born of the same spirit, hence why we have the same inherent moral propensities towards life. We understand that where death is, life cannot also be. It seems obvious that that selfsame Spirit which enjoins the collective soul of men is one in the same for all of us, as I have read that you have, in your words, "noticed," but why would this spiritual glue be any different for me or you or anyone if it's all the same God? Are there 7 billion gods on the planet or is there One that we all share?
As it is written that our moral compass makes us "as gods:"
Genesis 3:5
[5] For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
John 10:34-38
[34] Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
[35] If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
[36] Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
[37] If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
[38] But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.
Thus I ask, are we all as individuals God unto ourselves? Because if we were, we'd be able to create something out of nothing, yet we cannot. If I show a periodic table of the elements, of the which are the Lego blocks that the creation is constructed by - including our flesh - I cannot create any new element to add to this table... I'm only able to rearrange the ones that already exist. It is God who created the elements. Therefore we falter when we rearrange these elements to proclaim our own individual, personal creation.
Ecclesiastes 1:9
[9] The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
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In Webster's 1828 dictionary, a "notion" is defined as a conception, sentiment, opinion, sense, understanding, and/or inclination.
What you have repeatedly conveyed are things that you have noticed yourself. You're not guessing about the things that you've noticed, yet you are guessing when your highest authority is yourself because you're the wayfinder, the creator, and your final word is absolutely the finality of your intent towards living a spiritual life... and alas, it is but a guess.
1 Corinthians 14:33
[33] For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Matthew 7:21-27
[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
[23] And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
[24] Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
[25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
[26] And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
[27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
Even the faintest candle17 year old disciple of Christ here. I have been hearing of the decline of religion especially in britain/us where apparently 3% of 18-24 year olds are religious that may or not be true, but if one were to approach finding a female mate, a believer in Christ, in this drought how should one go about it
17 year old disciple of Christ here. I have been hearing of the decline of religion especially in britain/us where apparently 3% of 18-24 year olds are religious that may or not be true, but if one were to approach finding a female mate, a believer in Christ, in this drought how should one go about
Interestingly, in my country (finland) Christianity is gaining popularity among young men, whereas women are becoming less religious than ever before: Here is a recent survey on the Christian importance of Easter by age group, with yellow being women and teal being men:17 year old disciple of Christ here. I have been hearing of the decline of religion especially in britain/us where apparently 3% of 18-24 year olds are religious that may or not be true, but if one were to approach finding a female mate, a believer in Christ, in this drought how should one go about it
You answered the question with the first sentence. A Christian, under any title that they are given, whether it's soldier or servant, is merely tasked with obeying God. If I'm to obey God, I would have to first receive a command from Him. Thus, we have the many commandments that are written throughout the Bible. I remember there's something like 613 in the OT and over a thousand in the NT, but Jesus Christ Himself summarizes all of them as such:Isn't proper charity, then, only that to which God himself guides us, by living through us? There is a saying that even those who wait do God's will. If you go out on our way to do great works before God has given you a command to do them, is this not just a case of following your own will, rather than God's? Do you not then become very much the work of iniquity mentioned in Mathew 7:23?
Psalms 148:13Would insisting calling God by a specific name not be an attempt to limit his infinite nature (hence why God merely said "I am that I am").
By default, we are always in God's presence:When you raise beyond your thoughts, ideas, beliefs and feelings, are you no longer in God's presence? If you are, what name is there left to utter, as you are fully immersed in the Spirit of God? Even Jesus Christ has different pronunciations depending on the language in question. How do the metaphysical linguistics/semantics of Christ account for this? What is and is not a valid language, a valid pronunciation of Jesus? Isn't it thus more about the intent of your presence, than the semantics of your linguistics, that determines whether or not you're connected to God?
A saved believer sees the Holy Spirit work in their life the same way that the wind blows things around:hence the difficulty of answering the question "how do you know you are worshipping the right one?" The premise is lacks any basis in reality.
What I hear you to say is that God is everything that ever was and ever will be.I have heard God described as the lightless light.
It will only be God who offers this luxury to you. Consult Him, keep His commandments & thereby abide in His grace, and enjoy the peace of God until He delivers that God-fearing woman to you.17 year old disciple of Christ here. I have been hearing of the decline of religion especially in britain/us where apparently 3% of 18-24 year olds are religious that may or not be true, but if one were to approach finding a female mate, a believer in Christ, in this drought how should one go about it
I agree with you that the Holy spirit moves us as well as that which is around us.A saved believer sees the Holy Spirit work in their life the same way that the wind blows things around:
John 3:8
[8] The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Besides that, there's been a couple dozen times that I've asked God to guide my hand in opening His book, to which I was immediately humbled, brought to my knees, and instructed by His word. He has never failed to give me the knowledge that I don't know that I'm lacking which exactly solves the current problems in my life. Likewise, I have been precisely rebuked for my recent actions upon having faith in God's word upon opening His book. It's as real as it gets, but to the natural man it is foolishness and imaginary.
1 Corinthians 2:14
[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1 Corinthians 1:21-24
[21] For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
[22] For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
[23] But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
[24] But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
Romans 10:17
[17] So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Also, the number of times that I've witnessed the Holy Spirit present the knowledge of God in relation to what I see in the world is innumerable. The more you ask Jesus Christ in, the simplicity of the working of the world being antagonistic to Him becomes increasingly more simple and apparent.
What I hear you to say is that God is everything that ever was and ever will be.
When I was unsaved, this was a conversational starter that I used many times. I would ask, "Do you think that God is everything that ever was and ever will be?" Admittedly, some people didn't understand the question, but many said yes.
I would then ask, "if God is everything that ever was and ever will be, that means that God is also nothing, right? Because if God is ALL of the things, then God must also be NONE of the things. This is the only equal justification I can think of... yet here we are as SOMEthing that came from nothing. Clearly, since we came from nothing, God is also nothing."
I thank God that I was counted worthy to suffer His justified wrath upon my head during those days, that I could finally be humbled and delivered unto a knowledge of the truth, my soul being spared from an eternity in the place where the fire is never quenched.
Colossians 3:5-7
[5] Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
[6] For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
[7] In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.