Any Supplements/ Dietary Advice To Overcome Long Term Masturbation/porn Addiction?

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I stopped about 5 years ago and never looked back. Went from a habit of once or more per day, to zero, with no problems and never feeling like I wanted to go back to it. Now we have sex for a long, long time, many times a week, even though my wife has a low drive. I avoid coming most of the time, and the pleasure is off the charts. There is no comparison. Every man who does this finds a much better life, immeasurably better, on the other side. What made it possible for me is very frequent and lengthy sexual intercourse. If I was single and didn't have that it would be difficult, but I'd do it. And here's the thing: when you aren't spilling your load, women flock to you. They can tell. I know this is true, I've seen it many times.

And nothing kills your drive like masturbation. You get used to this lower level of existence. But once you stop for awhile and see the other side, you will not want to go back.
 

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It also means that the person has no things to do during the day. It's same with food for example. People are bored so they eat. In this case masturbating.. So doing something productive = be busy = not enough time or even energy for masturbating all day long..
 

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I stopped about 5 years ago and never looked back. Went from a habit of once or more per day, to zero, with no problems and never feeling like I wanted to go back to it. Now we have sex for a long, long time, many times a week, even though my wife has a low drive. I avoid coming most of the time, and the pleasure is off the charts. There is no comparison. Every man who does this finds a much better life, immeasurably better, on the other side. What made it possible for me is very frequent and lengthy sexual intercourse. If I was single and didn't have that it would be difficult, but I'd do it. And here's the thing: when you aren't spilling your load, women flock to you. They can tell. I know this is true, I've seen it many times.

And nothing kills your drive like masturbation. You get used to this lower level of existence. But once you stop for awhile and see the other side, you will not want to go back.

Well I am in the nofap/porn zone since the begining of 2016 and the only real difference I can surely attribute to it is that the feelings between the intercourse are really, really, really unbelivealbly intense... I cannot say I really feel any of the effects outside bedroom others talk about tough (higher energy, clarity etc.).
 

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I stopped about 5 years ago and never looked back. Went from a habit of once or more per day, to zero, with no problems and never feeling like I wanted to go back to it. Now we have sex for a long, long time, many times a week, even though my wife has a low drive. I avoid coming most of the time, and the pleasure is off the charts. There is no comparison. Every man who does this finds a much better life, immeasurably better, on the other side. What made it possible for me is very frequent and lengthy sexual intercourse. If I was single and didn't have that it would be difficult, but I'd do it. And here's the thing: when you aren't spilling your load, women flock to you. They can tell. I know this is true, I've seen it many times.

And nothing kills your drive like masturbation. You get used to this lower level of existence. But once you stop for awhile and see the other side, you will not want to go back.

How often do you actually ejaculate? Also do you have any experience with "dry orgasms". I've always wondered if it would have the same benefits as restricting orgasm, but I've never done the exercises long enough to be able to properly do it (At least not during sex. It's actually relatively easy to do when masturbating)
 
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How often do you actually ejaculate? Also do you have any experience with "dry orgasms". I've always wondered if it would have the same benefits as restricting orgasm, but I've never done the exercises long enough to be able to properly do it (At least not during sex. It's actually relatively easy to do when masturbating)

I try not to at all. Maybe once a month but less often is better. They kill the amazing feelings for awhile and drain me. Sex is so much more pleasurable this way.
 
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I stopped about 5 years ago and never looked back. Went from a habit of once or more per day, to zero, with no problems and never feeling like I wanted to go back to it. Now we have sex for a long, long time, many times a week, even though my wife has a low drive. I avoid coming most of the time, and the pleasure is off the charts. There is no comparison. Every man who does this finds a much better life, immeasurably better, on the other side. What made it possible for me is very frequent and lengthy sexual intercourse. If I was single and didn't have that it would be difficult, but I'd do it. And here's the thing: when you aren't spilling your load, women flock to you. They can tell. I know this is true, I've seen it many times.

Getting women to flock to you isn't difficult. And it's not surprising that someone who stops masturbating discovers that women are hitting on him. When you stop masturbating, you're obviously going to seek out sex more (even at a subconscious level) and do whatever it takes to make women attracted to you.

Why people think this is a good use of their time and energy is beyond me. Just masturbate, and free up your valuable time for more rewarding pursuits. Porn has never been better than it is in the internet era. And yet people are avoiding it? Lol whatever. To each his own.
 

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Hi, I've been addicted to fapping since I was like 12, and am now 20. Has ranged from like 5 times a day to once a week and now back to 5 again and I'm wondering if there is anything I can take to help me quit? LSD in a low dose helps but as some of you may know the tolerance builds too fast to use daily. Any help appreciated

You are on the right track...but it's not that you're addicted. You cannot become addicted to something which is part of human physiology, namely sex in this instance (sex with yourself is still sex). You can use it to lower stress, however, and your frequency is probably related to the hormonal condition going on inside your body. Real addictions occur when a substance is required for normal functioning of a system, because it has been so degraded.

Your physical response to stimulation is probably a bit dulled by elevated serotonin, excessive iron stores, or low blood sugar. Mental stimulation is rarely difficult when it comes to pornography, and so it appears to be an addiction because physical stimulation is difficult. But this is reverse thinking. It's not that you need to stop watching porn but rather need to restore the sensitivity of your physical response. This requires an all over improvement in health. Any behaviors that raise stress hormones like drinking, smoking pot, going many hours without eating will all dull the physical sensitivity. A poor diet and certain medications can do this too. Also the learned behavior of masturbating with the same hand in the same way every time conditions your mind to expect that when engaging in sex, so really the only mental hurdle here is to mastubate with different hands in different ways to break that learned expectation for orgasm conditions. Supplement wise there is no singular remedy, but would be an overall improvement in health, an increase in testosterone and lower serotonin. You must have some other health issues, right? This is probably in tandem and an improvement in those will improve your physical sexual response.

That being said, anything which aids in the regulation of calcium will improve sexual sensation, since it's purely a nerve response function and slow nerve response is caused by the cells inability to move calcium out in the way it should. Vitamin D and K, magnesium applied topically, etc.
 

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You should get a job if you are doing it that frequent. Begin exercising regularly. Take cold showers. Once you go long enough I find aggression can increase severely, sometimes an almost feral estate can ensue of pure rage. It makes for very good work outs. Sometimes temptation will come, but it is almost always linked to idle behaviour.

Realistically I think most can admit there is no profit in doing it, it weakens the resolve, debases yourself and make you less initiated. If you fail get back up and keep busy with something else to fight it.
 

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I don't get this post.

This says he want to stop, and then he says he wants to keep on going.
This thread's only purpose is for people to feel smug about not "uhmm".
I don't like it. I think the answer is simple: no exogenous hormones.
 

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What am I, your librarian? :lol:

Zinc, magnesium and calcium in human seminal fluid: relations to other semen parameters and fertility

or from wikipedia

Semen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A review of 30 studies concluded that the average was around 3.4 milliliters (ml), with some studies finding amounts as high as 5.0 ml or as low as 2.3 ml."

Assuming the 3.4ml standard cited above, and looking at the first link and the chart it provides, someone with their zinc semen levels on the high side (187mg/L) could have 0.6358mg of zinc in 3.4ml of semen. If they had a higher volume of semen @ 5ml as well as a high level of zinc, it could go as high as 0.935mg. That's like 11-12% of the RDA for women! :shock: (I told my wife and she was suspicious of why I was telling her this...)

That wikipedia page lists the average though at 0.561 mg

Men with low zinc levels in their seminal fluid are more likely to be infertile. Also interesting is that lead and cadmium can find its way into semen and men with higher levels of these have been found to be infertile.

hahahaha thanks man, sorry, I thought wikipedia didn't have that info.
 

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hahahaha thanks man, sorry, I thought wikipedia didn't have that info.

I sort of brought the zinc thing up to be a bit funny, but it is still a surprising amount! I found out about it when I was looking up fructose in semen, which is apparently important for health sperm. The fructose level in semen drops after 10-14 days of no ejaculation which could be a bit of a concern if you are going to have kids. I don't know much about the subject but I am under the impression this could have an effect on sperm quality 3 months down the line. Masturbation could be used to keep sperm healthy. You never know, you could accidentally get someone pregnant. You'll want those guys healthy!
 

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I sort of brought the zinc thing up to be a bit funny, but it is still a surprising amount! I found out about it when I was looking up fructose in semen, which is apparently important for health sperm. The fructose level in semen drops after 10-14 days of no ejaculation which could be a bit of a concern if you are going to have kids. I don't know much about the subject but I am under the impression this could have an effect on sperm quality 3 months down the line. Masturbation could be used to keep sperm healthy. You never know, you could accidentally get someone pregnant. You'll want those guys healthy!
My take on the subject is the following :
Unless you are following a path/training/discipline or whatever, it's better to ejaculate every once in a while. As always, some of the best answers for this are found on traditional chinese medicine. There's a safe ammount of ejaculations you can do per week/month depending on your health condition, constitutional type, time of the year, level of physical activity, etc. A Yin type with kidney deficiencies ejaculating 3 times per day on a cold winter is going to be very detrimental. A Yang type with full health and young, retaining for no reason is going to cause problems.

Balance, my friends.
 
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it's pretty draining to ejaculate. I try to avoid it. I don't believe that you have to do it. The less I do it the better I feel. My prostate is super healthy too. I like a ton of sex and no ejaculations. The body knows what it needs, so if it wants me to, it will happen.
 
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it's pretty draining to ejaculate. I try to avoid it. I don't believe that you have to do it. The less I do it the better I feel. My prostate is super healthy too. I like a ton of sex and no ejaculations. The body knows what it needs, so if it wants me to, it will happen.

Draining? Not for me. Could do it all day, every day easily if I had no other interests (and enough money to not have to work for a living).
 

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Getting women to flock to you isn't difficult. And it's not surprising that someone who stops masturbating discovers that women are hitting on him. When you stop masturbating, you're obviously going to seek out sex more (even at a subconscious level) and do whatever it takes to make women attracted to you.

Why people think this is a good use of their time and energy is beyond me. Just masturbate, and free up your valuable time for more rewarding pursuits. Porn has never been better than it is in the internet era. And yet people are avoiding it? Lol whatever. To each his own.

Hahaha, best post in the whole thread. I actually was surprised by the revelation I've seen on other threads in this forum of people being physically drained after ejaculating. I guess it's a person-to-person thing, and I'm lucky in that respect.

Like others said, as long as it isn't an "idle hands" kind of situation where you're wasting time, I don't see the problem. My libido is probably the only consistently gratifying thing in my life, whether it's doing it with the wife or watching porn.
 
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Thanks for all the replies guys, surprised about the number of responses :). For those asking, I have a girlfriend, although for me, porn is very different to sex and more pleasurable, sadly. I am also a university student and have a good group of friends... but for the person that asked, yes I have a lot of health issues, and chronic back pain from a disc bulge. Ill start preg and thyroid today and try to reduce estrogen. again, thanks for the help...
 

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There are hormones in dairy that give me boners.

Stay away from boner food if you are worried about it. Everytime you eat standard cow dairy you are getting the hormones from a pregnant cow since they milk them during unnatural times.

Same.

Id also try to avoid resistant starch.
 

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