Any Suggestions For Helping To Quit Marijuana?

[Inaut]

So i've been a user for over 10 years.....Daily.....Mostly at night during the week as I work a job and want to be coherent and effective at my day to day.....but i am addicted to it.... I don't overly enjoy the effects of the high and find that it is rather limiting my ability to develop as a hu-man....but i still keep doing it.... Even when I was younger, I hated it.....but still kept smoking like cheech and chong. Now, I can stop it for a period of time and have no issues with cold turkey but still eventually come back to it. Why? I guess it's a crutch as I'm missing something inside or some deficiency of some sort? (filling a void maybe?) . .... I know that I need to replace the void with something else---I do it by working out and socializing but any suggestions for dropping it for good? I am quite introspective and prefer being alone or being around small groups of very close friends. Not into hob nobbing or crowded settings (ie bars, clubs and the likes)

Question is---How do i move past the repeated desire (i will say that I like the action of smoking but don't want to pick up cigarettes)? I know what I need to do but just looking for advice/ experience from past users who gave it up for good.....

 

[rei]

You simply need to know that you truly want to quit it. It is another thing entirely to convince yourself of it on a fundamental level, while fooling the ego is easy.

 

[Makrosky]

Daily weed smoker for 4-5 years here. I never gave it up, it gave up to me so to speak. These 4-5 years were the ones I was on Prozac so when I stopped Prozac I couldn't tolerate weed anymore. Anxiety, paranoia, you know... So no more weed for me.

But if I could tolerate it, I would still smoke ocasionally. It is a good recreational substance.

Now, I can stop it for a period of time and have no issues with cold turkey but still eventually come back to it. Why? I guess it's a crutch as I'm missing something inside

You mean that every time you use it ocasionally after a period of not using it, go get "addicted" again ?

Because if that is not the case, why not keep an ocasional use ? Looks like you like it but some part of your brain is telling you shouldn't like it.

 

[milk_lover]

Usually when I get addicted to something, my dopamine is either low, or my metabolism/thyroid is compromised. Oral pregnenolone and topical vitamin D are two helpful tools I used when I was addicted to porn masturbation.

 

[Inaut]

You mean that every time you use it ocasionally after a period of not using it, go get "addicted" again ?

Because if that is not the case, why not keep an ocasional use ? Looks like you like it but some part of your brain is telling you shouldn't like it.

If i did it once or twice a month I probably wouldn't have much issues with it... but if i have it at my disposal I need to smoke(vape) it.... I guess I should just stop buying it

Usually when I get addicted to something, my dopamine is either low, or my metabolism/thyroid is compromised. Oral pregnenolone and topical vitamin D are two helpful tools I used when I was addicted to porn masturbation.

I think it has to do with low dopamine to some extent.....I am focusing on increasing it. Most times, I find that MJ makes me depressed afterwards and it lingers... A couple weeks ago I felt on top of the world (even while using)...

 

[Makrosky]

If i did it once or twice a month I probably wouldn't have much issues with it... but if i have it at my disposal I need to smoke(vape) it.... I guess I should just stop buying it

Oh I know the feeling. If you have it at home, you can't not smoke it.

 

[milk_lover]

If i did it once or twice a month I probably wouldn't have much issues with it... but if i have it at my disposal I need to smoke(vape) it.... I guess I should just stop buying it




I think it has to do with low dopamine to some extent.....I am focusing on increasing it. Most times, I find that MJ makes me depressed afterwards and it lingers... A couple weeks ago I felt on top of the world (even while using)...

Joe Rogan smokes a lot of weed. Maybe because of the stress he puts himself under, he likes to smoke it to calm his self down. It helps him relax and be in the moment which helps with the lengthy conversations he's having with his guests in podcasts.

 

[Terma]

Already posted the links elsewhere: indeed THC increases pregnenolone synthesis so I take 100mg/week if I have it. Maybe at an extreme it could temporarily deplete cellular cholesterol? I get good effects from B3 on THC such that I wonder if NAD doesn't play a role in acute but maybe longer effects.

THC in experiments increased the HPA axis and dynorphin which slaughters dopamine (do yourself a favor and read the wikipedia article on dynorphin, it's short and sweet). I don't know how sensitive this is to energy availability, but it would easily explain the dysphoric experiences effects people get.

(If I consume THC with or without CBD alone I feel like complete garbage, it's only good with supplements; that was a clue for me)

 

[johnsmith]

Usually when I get addicted to something, my dopamine is either low, or my metabolism/thyroid is compromised. Oral pregnenolone and topical vitamin D are two helpful tools I used when I was addicted to porn masturbation.

Is there any reason you took or prefer pregnenolone orally rather then topically?

 

[ecstatichamster]

quit for just one day.

The next day, quit for just one day.

Realize there will be a huge period of several months when the world will be gray and boring.

Just quit for the day.

That is what really works. And realizing that things will be shitty for awhile.

 

[TheSir]

quit for just one day.

The next day, quit for just one day.

Realize there will be a huge period of several months when the world will be gray and boring.

Just quit for the day.

That is what really works. And realizing that things will be shitty for awhile.

This. On the internet there is an abundance of people who say "Yeah I quit weed it sucked for a week then I was over it." There is less mention of those who need months to recover from it. Some may quit, then month later go back to smoking because they think that reality just sucks ****, when in reality their endocannabinoid system is still deep in withdrawal. For me it took over half a year to feel normal after quittin a two year long habit of daily smoking.

 

[Inaut]

This. On the internet there is an abundance of people who say "Yeah I quit weed it sucked for a week then I was over it." There is less mention of those who need months to recover from it. Some may quit, then month later go back to smoking because they think that reality just sucks ****, when in reality their endocannabinoid system is still deep in withdrawal. For me it took over half a year to feel normal after quittin a two year long habit of daily smoking.

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quit for just one day.

The next day, quit for just one day.

Realize there will be a huge period of several months when the world will be gray and boring.

Just quit for the day.

That is what really works. And realizing that things will be shitty for awhile.

That

Really made sense to me. Sitting with some weed beside me right now and I said no :)

I think sometimes things need to be packaged in a specific way for it to be absorbed. Thanks so much everybody for all your posts :)

 

[Douglas Ek]

So i've been a user for over 10 years.....Daily.....Mostly at night during the week as I work a job and want to be coherent and effective at my day to day.....but i am addicted to it.... I don't overly enjoy the effects of the high and find that it is rather limiting my ability to develop as a hu-man....but i still keep doing it.... Even when I was younger, I hated it.....but still kept smoking like cheech and chong. Now, I can stop it for a period of time and have no issues with cold turkey but still eventually come back to it. Why? I guess it's a crutch as I'm missing something inside or some deficiency of some sort? (filling a void maybe?) . .... I know that I need to replace the void with something else---I do it by working out and socializing but any suggestions for dropping it for good? I am quite introspective and prefer being alone or being around small groups of very close friends. Not into hob nobbing or crowded settings (ie bars, clubs and the likes)

Question is---How do i move past the repeated desire (i will say that I like the action of smoking but don't want to pick up cigarettes)? I know what I need to do but just looking for advice/ experience from past users who gave it up for good.....

Well there has to be a reason if you hate it you still do it? Is it for comfort does it give you relief or make you calm?
I also think that when your high more than your sober reality feels like the boring and gray thing. And in fact life aint that fun all the time. But that constant need that you need it to be fun all the time was what got me into doing drugs. When I grew up I realized that life cant always be fun and you have to work hard sometimes live in a boring routine or what ever to slowly accomplish your goals. But there are mental ways to make the routine boring. Usually you do something in your life because you have a plan or a goal. And thats the thrill of the game. I just had a bad trip at one point on weed and since then I just cant smoke because it just brings that back to me.

 

[ecstatichamster]

This. On the internet there is an abundance of people who say "Yeah I quit weed it sucked for a week then I was over it." There is less mention of those who need months to recover from it. Some may quit, then month later go back to smoking because they think that reality just sucks ****, when in reality their endocannabinoid system is still deep in withdrawal. For me it took over half a year to feel normal after quittin a two year long habit of daily smoking.

I needed months. It was really shitty. Same when I quit drinking.

 

[Whichway?]

Your just ahead of the times. Marijuana is undergoing a revolution as more and more research reveals the amazing effects of the endo cannabinoid system in our bodies. The thing that you are probably “addicted” to is the activation of the endo cannabinoid system each day. Try to find a natural way to do this which includes exercise, massage, leafy green veggies, omega 3s, or at least try to get some CBD oil that has a low THC content.

In the future I think about 1/3 of the population will take low THC marijuana products for their health benefits, and it will make a big resurgence into medicines for everyday ailments.

 

[milk_lover]

Is there any reason you took or prefer pregnenolone orally rather then topically?

Pregnenolone can be found in food like brains of animals, so taking it orally is similar to eating brains minus the disgust element. Topically, it's also effective. I read somewhere here on the skin, it can be more androgenic than orally.

 

[Anders86]

I like the effects from Diamant. It seem ta make the "period" after quiting dissaper quickly.

I don't really know how I quited. But for some months ago I just didn't want to smoke anymore. I guess after I started with a regime with topical Diamant and others. Just very comfortable in my own skin. I have company over that smokes alot and I like the wierd conversations we have.

I have smoked almost daily since I was 17-18, so about 14 years now.. Currently in my biggest period off. I also started to appreciate mornings and being much more social.

I guess there is something in my gut making me crave weed. Chronic innflammation or something. Topical did a big difference for me.

I remember I had a big period off when I started peating, but the "urge" came back after a while.

 

[Makrosky]

It is very common for people to start suspecting something is wrong with them either mentally or metabolically when they crave something like weed.

I like much more the idea that when you crave it is so simple, so basic, so self respecting that it is hard to spot it right in front of your nose (like Poe's tale) : You crave it because you just like it.

 

[ilikecats]

@Wichway? this guy... marijuana sucks hard... it’s anti-androgenic, it raises cortisol. I cant see any good effects from it. It reliably decreases intelligence, promotes over analysis serotonergic thinking, and paranoia. I think that the idea that it promotes creative thinking is a myth, it only promotes states akin to mental illness which often masquerade as (and pass off as) creativity. There’s never any insight only an illusion of insight. Can reliably produce schizophrenic esque states. I speak from personal experience too, I used to think it was great, I was like the Michael Jordan of smoking weed in high school. And obviously this is anecdotal/generalized observations but almost all of my friends still smoke weed and it certainly doesn’t seem to be doing them any favors. I think the fact that pregnenolone can block its effects should be a huge red flag for anyone following peats work but you don’t do you @Wichway? Weeds becoming the darling of mainstream media and medicine as the push for it to become completely legalized is becoming more intense and its full legalization in the US is becoming a very real possibility. Follow the money, there’s so much money to be made in that industry it’s insane. Legal marajuana sales are already approaching 10 billion a year. I’m all for it’s legalization by the way, that’s fine with me.

In a world where statins, ssri’s, and NO enhancers are your best selling pharmaceuticals something that’s relativtly ineffective and only kind of harmful can seem extremely beneficial.

Potentially hepatotoxic too (as peat pointed out I believe) although this study isn’t super definitive and has some flaws
Possible hepatotoxicity of chronic marijuana usage

 

[Makrosky]

I think that the idea that it promotes creative thinking is a myth, it only promotes states akin to mental illness which often masquerade as (and pass off as) creativity. There’s never any insight only an illusion of insight.

While I get the idea of your post, I STRONGLY disagree with this part, it is just not true. I have experienced first hand weed helping me to solve problems I couldn't find a solution for them. Explicitly, when developing software. You are stuck with something that doesn't work, you smoke some weed, and sometimes it helps seeing things in a different perspective so you get the insight and can solve the problem. It happened to me many times.

It is like if you are trying to cross a door that is closed, boucing your head against it again and again... and then the weed helps you see there's an open door next to it you weren't seeing.

If it is chronic use, then that is a very different thing and I agree with other stuff you said.