Androsterone - Liquid Androsterone For Lab/R&D

[Steven Bussinger]

I saw another post from Georgi saying a direct cause of the joint pain could be low cortisol

Perhaps the pool of pregnenolone is depleted. Maybe the androsterone upregulates the usage of pregnenolone, so there is none left to make cortisol.

 

[jtoro]

How much is your rat taking? H0w old is he?

Thoughts on androsterone taken sublingually as opposed to topically?

 

[Markus]

Thoughts on androsterone taken sublingually as opposed to topically?

From my own experience, oral seems to yield a more transient effect.

 

[CalmAmygdala]

Has anyone ever used this as an AI on TRT or even higher supraphysiogical doses of testosterone? If so, what dosage did you find worked well?

 

[BrianF]

From my own experience, oral seems to yield a more transient effect.

Used to drop one or two drops into the space between by bottom lip and the gums of my front teeth. - This gave me the best all round effects.

I also used to drop a drop on my penis under my foreskin, again, this would result in a lower hanging and more swollen member.

 

[Frankdee20]

Used to drop one or two drops into the space between by bottom lip and the gums of my front teeth. - This gave me the best all round effects.

I also used to drop a drop on my penis under my foreskin, again, this would result in a lower hanging and more swollen member.

Sublingual seems to have its own effects, but short lived

 

[CalmAmygdala]

How long do the effects of topical last? I read Haidut say 8 hours towards the beginning of the thread but I’m curious to hear other’s experiences

 

[Experienced]

I also used to drop a drop on my penis under my foreskin, again, this would result in a lower hanging and more swollen member.

What would this do? Is it even effective.

 

[Frankdee20]

How long do the effects of topical last? I read Haidut say 8 hours towards the beginning of the thread but I’m curious to hear other’s experiences

At this point, I feel as though I grew accustomed to the effects, even at 1-3 drops topically.... For me, I can’t tell anymore... In the beginning, pretty pronounced effects

 

[CalmAmygdala]

What effects? And I'm mainly talking about AI effects personally, although I've noticed the others (thyroid mimetic effects, GABA agonism, etc.)

 

[shine]

What effects? And I'm mainly talking about AI effects personally, although I've noticed the others (thyroid mimetic effects, GABA agonism, etc.)

It is definitely a drying compound. 4 drops daily after a while caused cracking joints, hurting back, no interest in the other sex, no libido, loss of fat/water in the chest area.
Adding in aromatizable compounds helped deal with the libido and joint/back issues. In my experience it is a strong AI at 3-4 drops daily.

If you're on supraphysiological doses of T or have high E you can probably tolerate more.

 

[jtoro]

It is definitely a drying compound. 4 drops daily after a while caused cracking joints, hurting back, no interest in the other sex, no libido, loss of fat/water in the chest area.
Adding in aromatizable compounds helped deal with the libido and joint/back issues. In my experience it is a strong AI at 3-4 drops daily.

If you're on supraphysiological doses of T or have high E you can probably tolerate more.

How long did it take for your libido to return?

 

[Frankdee20]

It is definitely a drying compound. 4 drops daily after a while caused cracking joints, hurting back, no interest in the other sex, no libido, loss of fat/water in the chest area.
Adding in aromatizable compounds helped deal with the libido and joint/back issues. In my experience it is a strong AI at 3-4 drops daily.

If you're on supraphysiological doses of T or have high E you can probably tolerate more.

That could be from possible GABA enhancement effects as well...

 

[BrianF]

What would this do? Is it even effective.

Thinner skin with more blood vessles for transdermal doseage. Yes I feel it got into the system quite effectively though could cause a little irritation at times.

I also experimented with the belly button.

 

[Momado965]

Does anyone know what the metabolic effects of androsteNone are?

 

[Markus]

Does anyone know what the metabolic effects of androsteNone are?

From my own experience, they are thyromimetic (increased glucose utilization etc.).

 

[Momado965]

Would taking 150mg - 1000mg androsterone cause fat loss?

 

[jtoro]

Would taking 150mg - 1000mg androsterone cause fat loss?

oh man. I would not do that. i took a few mg and I regret it. low libido as a result.

 

[jtoro]

I know exactly what's goin on with ya. Look at all those supplements, man.

Your estrogen levels are in the basement. Too low. 50k-100kiu vit A is a HEAVY dose, and that alone could cause joint pain/ low libido/irritability I bet. We know that vitamnin A at <10k iu per day is an effective estrogen inhibitor. So is just 325mg of aspirin. Niacinimide too has some anti-estrogenic effects. Thyroid would be opposing estrogen as well.

Then- Androsterone plus pansterone is a HIGHLY effective estrogen+aromatase blocker. Haiduit posted a study on that. So your estrogen was already low or maybe lower than it should be.

I made the same mistake for a couple months this fall... stacking too many supplements and research chemicals thinking that if I could only lower my estrogen a little more and boost my androgens a bit more I would finally find that awesome libido surge. Nope, sorry me, doesn't work that easy pal, especially not with post-finasteride. Joints hurt like hell, hated my life and annoyed with the people around me. So finally I started dropping things one by one and noticing I actually felt better mentally. Started just pansterone/androsterone on its own, only other supplement is beef gelatin, and felt way more comfortable and with decent libido, and "decent" is a big step up from having terrible negative libido .

Now Im taking 5a-dhp and sometimes energin and gelatin and that's all. Never felt better. I know now to only take 1 or two supplements at a time, or take very small doses if I am going to use multiple.

Low estrogen can feel awful, just as bad as low androgens in my opinion. That's not a popular opinion on this forum because estrogen IS dangerous and causes all sorts of problemos, but too low is too low

How long did it take you to recover from the low estrogen?

 

[sladerunner69]

How long did it take you to recover from the low estrogen?

Not long, it can increase very quickly on its own. I don't think there is a mechanism by which the body will stop producing estrogen, because it is so ubiquitious throughout the body and is produced everywhere.