Androsterone - Liquid Androsterone For Lab/R&D

[golder]

Ray thinks Androsterone is safe in doses similar to DHEA ( 10-15mg/day). I would say that at that amount it could be used indefinitely. Otherwise he would have said differently.

Would you be kind enough to point me in the right direction of the source? Thanks in advance

 

[Cameron]

Anyone try andro orally with good success ?

 

[Stramonium]

Anyone try andro orally with good success ?

Androsterone orally gave my rat a strong body odor which it didn't get before applying it topically. Somebody described it before as plasticky

 

[Cameron]

Androsterone orally gave my rat a strong body odor which it didn't get before applying it topically. Somebody described it before as plasticky

Did you notice that odor as a pheromone effect from women?

 

[Mauritio]

Hey
wanted to give my review on Androsterone. It is my fourth day on Androsterone. It took it for 2 consecutive days without and the next 2 days with 2-4mg Pregnenolone. That's why the review will be split in two parts.
So far I can say this is probably the best supplement combo I have ever tried!
I only am taking 1 drop of the tocopherols per day solvent on my forearms.


FIRST TWO DAYS , 1 drop androsterone per day
First thing I have noticed was increased libido and STRONG relaxation. Libido went up and always stayed on that level the whole 4 days. It wasnt the "porn kind of libido," more the : "I wanna go out and get somwthing" kind of libido.Also some women seem to turn me on instantly , like faster than i can even think about it. They might be the metabolically gifted ones?! Erection quality also increased.
I also noticed my mood was really good: I would describe it as happy, mellow ,also jumpy but relaxed . I could be either one if I wanted.
The smell seems good to me- like dirt mixed with cologne ,which makes it not smell as artificial as real colognes.
One of the first things that I noticed is that music sounds a lot better. I had the same reaction on Metergoline, but this is even more intense.
I peed a lot the first two days and I felt like my face got a little slimmer. No fat loss so far ( at least as far as I can tell)
When I am at work i notice that I am more self confident .-Especially the first 3-4 hours after taking it.
People are beeing nicer , actually women AND men.
I have one got one estrogen dominant coworker to make a comment but i was trying to show her that i am not the "thread" that she thinks I am . Which worked , we got a long the whole day and very good since then. She even was complimenting me for sth in front of other people, which I didnt expect.
There was one patient of me who was sceptical beacuse of sth I said last week , who was rather interested and asked a lot of question this week. He was really nice...
I just have the feeling that people like me more or are simply more interested in me and trust me more. I dont know , cant really put the finger on it exactly.
I do have to say that sympathy towards me increased a little more in women than in men. And some female patients of me really seem to get nervous around me and try to please me . And like others said I feel men are a bit more carefoul but as with my female coworker I try to show them that I am not a "threat" to them and still the same as before... which is not true in a way ,but you know ...
One downside is that i started having nightmares from the first day i took it. The arent classic nightmares ,more like violent dreams . In one dream I was violent towards someone from my family (that I have problems with in real life)
I am not mad thoug. Since I feel Andro did not create those aggressions . It rather just created a way for them to get to the surface I guess.
Sleep was bad on andro alone. I was super relaxed but couldnt get to sleep for some reason . I think haidut mentioned that it had to do with Noradrenaline/ Adrenalin beeing lowered. Which ocould very well be the case, since I am also taking Inosine which lowers it even further.


NEXT 2 DAYS: ANDRO(1 drop/day) + PREGNENOLONE(2-4mg/day)
The reason I added Preg was that I didn't get anything done on Andro. It lowered my stress hormones too much.
It's much better with Preg.... Does that mean Preg raises stress hormones ?! Because I dont get that energy boost from thyroid or red light.

The combination with preg works super good I get all the benefits that I mention above plus a lot of energy and I am able to sleep at night.
I also get symptoms of higher testosterone. Like pumped, fuller looking muscles. I sadly didn't get stronger, though . Was at the gym today and about 10-15 percent weaker than normal. But I definitely look more buff.
The crazy thing was that all the benefits were apparent in a matter of a few minutes! I almost couldn't believe how fast it works.
Also my face looks slimmer and hair looks better :)
I also ordered Pansterone and Gonadin. I might try to add them singularly to Androsterone . Or try Gonadin even first on its own...

 

[Mauritio]

Also @haidut what kind of hormonal profile would I need to have to attract pregnant women. They really seem to have a thing for me...

 

[Steene]

effects:
- higher confidence
- more respect from others
- increased attraction
-WEAKER strength
- bad dreams

orally: too strong too fast absorption (strongly GABA dominant leads to sluggishness)
scrotal: too strong (leads to irritability)
topically: steady slow absorption (best kind of application, downside could be the pheromone activity in some cases)

dosages: 1 mg (noticeable), 2mg (best), 3mg (almost too high), 4mg++ (never tried, because 3mg is already very strong)

Androsterone shouldn't be used on its own, always in conjugation with Pansterone to negate the dominant GABA- and strength weakening effects.

 

[Cameron]

This is all very interesting andro seems best with preg or pansterone low dose how much does a body produce in males of Androsterone a day naturally or we just adding a little extra or a lot possibly too much extra with supplementing?

 

[haidut]

Also @haidut what kind of hormonal profile would I need to have to attract pregnant women. They really seem to have a thing for me...

Lol, I don't know but I have seen this happen in high-androgen males and it baffles evolutionary biologists as pregnant women should not be interested in sex yet they very often are. A male client using androsterone also mentioned pregnant women like him a lot and men want to fight him. I think @Wagner83 experienced the latter too.

 

[Mauritio]

Lol, I don't know but I have seen this happen in high-androgen males and it baffles evolutionary biologists as pregnant women should not be interested in sex yet they very often are. A male client using androsterone also mentioned pregnant women like him a lot and men want to fight him. I think @Wagner83 experienced the latter too.

Okay nothing to worry about then They have somehing to them . I dont mean in a sexual way , but just the glow they have. They seem to radiate some kind of healthiness.
A doctor once told me that a lot of tumors stop during and return after pregnancy and they still dont know why ...

 

[haidut]

a lot of tumors stop during and return after pregnancy and they still dont know why

It is actually well-known why. Progesterone levels skyrocket during pregnancy. Pregnant women can produce 300mg+ proegsterone daily. Estrogen/prolactin levels are really low during pregnancy and skyrocket afterwards.

 

[Mauritio]

It is actually well-known why. Progesterone levels skyrocket during pregnancy. Pregnant women can produce 300mg+ proegsterone daily. Estrogen/prolactin levels are really low during pregnancy and skyrocket afterwards.

Well even if I told him i doubt he would have believed it ...

 

[Cameron]

High progesterone woman are attracted by androgens high estrogen women are aggressive and controlling and perfer low androgen high estrogen men to control and dominate why this world is so sexually confused

 

[haidut]

High progesterone woman are attracted by androgens high estrogen women are aggressive and controlling and perfer low androgen high estrogen men to control and dominate why this world is so sexually confused

Exactly. And since estrogen is a masculinizing hormone in women, the high estrogen levels from BC pills, endocrine disruptors, stress, etc are basically pushing many women closer to the male phenotype and males towards the female phenotype. No wonder inter-sex aggression is at an all-time high.

 

[baccheion]

High progesterone woman are attracted by androgens high estrogen women are aggressive and controlling and perfer low androgen high estrogen men to control and dominate why this world is so sexually confused

I thought it was the opposite: estrogen is attracted to testosterone and progesterone is attracted to a provider (ie, someone to take care of the child).

Exactly. And since estrogen is a masculinizing hormone in women, the high estrogen levels from BC pills, endocrine disruptors, stress, etc are basically pushing many women closer to the male phenotype and males towards the female phenotype. No wonder inter-sex aggression is at an all-time high.

And I thought stress increased testosterone/androgens in women.

 

[Steene]

I thought it was the opposite: estrogen is attracted to testosterone and progesterone is attracted to a provider (ie, someone to take care of the child).


And I thought stress increased testosterone/androgens in women.

No its not oestrogen dominance attracts oestrogen dominance. Several studies confirm that claim. Testosterone in women has a very short life span as it get aromatised very fast.

 

[haidut]

And I thought stress increased testosterone/androgens in women.

It does initially, but the main androgen in females is DHEA since they can't produce much T. So, estrogen irritates the adrenals and they pump out DHEA (while they can) which then contributes to hairiness and deeper voice but ultimately ends up raising estrogen even more and forming a positive feedback loop. Eventually, when the adrenal layer producing DHEA atrophies, only estrogen (estrone from fatty tissue) and cortisol synthesis remain. This can happen even in pre-menopausal women but it becomes a true nightmare after menopause when progesterone synthesis declines.

 

[Steene]

It does initially, but the main androgen in females is DHEA since they can't produce much T. So, estrogen irritates the adrenals and they pump out DHEA (while they can) which then contributes to hairiness and deeper voice but ultimately ends up raising estrogen even more and forming a positive feedback loop. Eventually, when the adrenal layer producing DHEA atrophies, only estrogen (estrone from fatty tissue) and cortisol synthesis remain. This can happen even in pre-menopausal women but it becomes a true nightmare after menopause when progesterone synthesis declines.

So progesterone is the single best thing to give to women after menopause? Pregnenolone should do its job in raising progesterone and some DHEA if I am not wrong.

 

[haidut]

I thought it was the opposite: estrogen is attracted to testosterone and progesterone is attracted to a provider (ie, someone to take care of the child).

Not really, T is not much different than E2 and converts into it easily (albeit less easily than DHEA). If anything, progesterone would be attracted to DHT and estrogen would be driven towards DHT but in an antagonistic and militant way. In William Blakes language, progesterone and DHT are opposites and are crucial for each other, while estrogen is a negation to both progesterone and DHT and clashes with them any chance it gets. I have seen the high-estrogen phenotype in both males and females and they both react violently to high-progesterone women as well as to high-DHT males.

 

[Regina]

Not really, T is not much different than E2 and converts into it easily (albeit less easily than DHEA). If anything, progesterone would be attracted to DHT and estrogen would be driven towards DHT but in an antagonistic and militant way. In William Blakes language, progesterone and DHT are opposites and are crucial for each other, while estrogen is a negation to both progesterone and DHT and clashes with them any chance it gets. I have seen the high-estrogen phenotype in both males and females and they both react violently to high-progesterone women as well as to high-DHT males.

I definitely experience this. I probably need to stay away from dojos. The estrogenic men sneer like mean-girls at me and resist fully when partnering. It's just absurd.