Andro And Pansterone Dosage And Effects

[dapar]

Hi all

I just registered but I've been around for a while, I've started to take andro and pansterone so it is time to contribute a bit

3 weeks ago I started with 4 drops of andro and 6 of pansterone (both SFA, applied on the forearm) and I feel literally nothing, well yes, some cystic acne that happened to me before with pregonolone not sure if I must try with a higher dose, keep this for a while and taper off to 2-4 and keep it for a while

I had bloodwork done before and I with get another one after:

pre results:
LH 3.72 mU/mL range 0.8-7.6
FSH 5.31 mU/mL range 0.7-11.1
Testosterone 8.60 ng/ml range 0.47-9.80
Free Test 301 ng/dl range 101-499
Estradiol 25 pg/ml range <56
SHBG 64 nmol/L range 12-75
DHEA-s 1.12 Ug/mL range 0.8-5.6
DHT 0.35 ng/ml range 0.18-1.20

Some extra data:
age 37
76.5 kilos and around 11% bodyfat (I was overweighted until 18-19 years, around 105kg and 30%+ body fat )
gym for 15+ years
historically low blood estradiol level (not sure if in the tissue is the same story)
historically high SHBG (trying to reduce it eating more carbs and adding raisins and more milk to my diet)
currantly taking topical finasteride 1ml/day


Regards

 

[opethfeldt]

The finasteride is probably negating most of the beneficial effects of pansterone. Increasing DHT is the primary mechanism in which it helps. What is your goal in taking it?

 

[dapar]

The finasteride is probably negating most of the beneficial effects of pansterone. Increasing DHT is the primary mechanism in which it helps. What is your goal in taking it?

Finasteride is for hair loss, anyway I just discontinued it this week, let’s see if there’s any change, I’m also taking now 3 drops of andro and 6 of panste

 

[dapar]

Well.....after 1 month with 4:6 A:P and the second month with 2:4 A:P, so 1:1.5 and 1:2 ratio respectively

pre results:
LH 3.72 mU/mL range 0.8-7.6-----------New 5.92
FSH 5.31 mU/mL range 0.7-11.1-----------New 5.77
Testosterone 8.60 ng/ml range 0.47-9.80-----------New 9.77
Free Test 0.0986 ng/dL-----------New 0.115 ng/dL
Estradiol 25 pg/ml range <56-----------New 18.7
SHBG 64 nmol/L range 12-75-----------New 61.5
DHEA-s 1.12 Ug/mL range 0.8-5.6-----------New 0.53
DHT 0.35 ng/ml range 0.18-1.20-----------New N/A

Prolactin-----------New 313mU/L range 86-324

I discontinued Finasteride one week before the blood test (for good)

Thoughts

-It is really weird that there is such a drop in DHEAs, 50% less, should I increase panste ratio to 1:3
-Lower estrogen
-Not sure if the nettle root had something to do with lowering the SHBG from 64 to 61 I will keep using it anyway
-Based on Peat's article about estrogen in the tissues I guess I'm ok having high levels of prolactin, not sure about any downside related to this tho...

Right after the bloodwork, I lowered even more, the paste to 2:2 ml A:P

Regards!