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"Am I The Only One Here Who's Not A Sociopath?" Wonders Nurse Seeing Colleagues Killing Covid Folks

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Health Discussions' started by burtlancast, May 19, 2020.

  1. burtlancast

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    Hospital staff in NY are killing minority Covid patients by the buckets in total impunity, apparently.

    This is an incredible testimony by a Nevada nurse working in New York hospitals.

    "I'm telling you they are murdering these people and nobody will listen to me," she said.

    I've never heard anything like it in my life.



    "A Nevada nurse is blowing the whistle on New York hospitals she has been working at amid the coronavirus pandemic. Nicole Sirotek posted a video claiming that minority patients are being "murdered" due to gross negligence and mismanagement while being treated for the coronavirus in New York-area hospitals. Sirotek explained that she has witnessed everything from an anesthesiologist improperly intubating a patient, a resident using a defibrillator on a patient with a heart rate, and another patient being given the wrong insulin. All three patients in these cases ended up dying from staff negligence. Sirotek says she's tried reaching out to advocacy groups for minorities, but she was either put on hold or hung up on. She also stated that she tried speaking with hospital management to no avail, adding, "They don’t care what is happening to these people. … It’s like going into the f**king Twilight Zone." According to the New York Post, Sirotek was working at Elmhurst Hospital in Queens before being transferred to another facility once the above video surfaced."

    Better think twice about entering hospitals in New York.
     
  2. mrchibbs

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    Avoid hospitals like the plague, in general. And especially so in these times of folly.

    Edit: Her testimony is incredible.
     
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    Thanks for sharing. Sad.
     
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    It sends a message when the word "sociopath", usually reserved to critics of the medical monopoly like are the members here, start being used by the nurses themselves.
     
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    @johnwester130 enough with the crackpot conspiracy theories. Make this place nearly impossible to have a decent discussion.

    Yes, the world isn’t perfect but claiming that only about 10% of the population of the world is human and the rest are androids make this place even less attractive then it already is.
     
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    He's referring to the NPC meme, which bases itself on a study commented on in this article: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...nce/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech
     
  8. Gone Peating

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    The problem is much bigger than race. That's not the reason why.

    It's very unfortunate that such a large proportion of the population has been brainwashed to see things from the perspective of white v black, majority v minority, conservative v liberal

    Thanks to limitless propaganda not many people realize there are other ways of looking at things besides the two options that are given to us for every issue
     
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    Doubt it has much to do with race, and more to do with lack of sleep, overload, and incompetence. But the younger generations are so programed to see racism they can't help themselves
     
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    yes. Quite. Heartbreaking. This stuff goes on all the time.
     
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    Think twice about entering hospitals anywhere.
     
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    True.

    But in places like Germany and others, one can still receive decent hospital health care for emergencies 90% of the time.

    At least, the emergencies aren't going to murder you in plain sight.
     
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    The beast system is entirely dualistic.
     
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    Maybe.

    Frankly, i was more annoyed at her constant unrelenting use of the words "sh.t" and "f..k".

    You don't need any of that to get a message across to the world, which is her first intention. I would hate a place that would use such vocabulary as often as she does.
     
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    It is not just the minorities, everybody is subjected to pretty much the same homicidal procedures, even though I would not be surprised if the minorities have it worse. More than a decade ago, years before I found Peat, I stumbled upon an article on CNN about the actor Evan Handler, who plays the role of Charlotte's (of Sex and the City) husband. For some reason it stuck with me, and I am not sure why. Maybe synchronicity again...
    Apparently, he had leukemia in the 1980s and his experience was so traumatizing that he decided to become an advocate teaching people how to behave (a better word would be "fight back" IMO) if they end up in the hospital. He almost got killed several times while in the hospital due to medical incompetence (or malice??), and despite him doing everything in his power to bring these issues up to higher ups he was ignored and at one point labelled "mentally unstable". That latter part is in the video, not the article itself. So, if this treatment can be bestowed upon the rich and famous, it can be forced down upon anybody, even babies (and sadly, often especially babies who can't fight back).
    The CNN article is aptly named "Being a "bad" patient can save your life". And another piece of advice - NEVER, EVER go to the hospital without a relative or a person who you can trust, because when you are incapacitated somebody needs to be watching out for you. If Mr. Handler is even 10% right of what hospital experience for critically ill people looks like, then going to a hospital without a trusted entourage is suicide!

    'Sex' actor: Being a bad patient can save your life - CNN.com
    "...Actor Evan Handler, currently appearing in "Californication," defied statistics and survived leukemia. In many ways, Handler is the ultimate empowered patient. "I learned that I must always remain in control, double-check everyone's work, and trust no one completely," Handler wrote of his approximately eight months in the hospital. "I must have been sheer hell to be around. But I know that my cantankerousness saved my life on several occasions." In his books "It's Only Temporary," and "Time on Fire," Handler wrote that during his months in the hospital, he was given intravenous drugs that were supposed to go to another patient, that nurses tried to give him medications his doctors had forbidden for him and that staff members refused to follow the hospital's posted hygiene precautions for immunosuppressed patients like himself. Handler survived when statistics said he shouldn't have. He endured round after round of chemotherapy, one infection after another and a bone marrow transplant. In this conversation with CNN Medical Correspondent Elizabeth Cohen, Handler discusses firing your doctor, tattooing medical directives on your stomach and the importance of NOT doing exactly what you're told."

    "...Cohen: You write about how nurses tried to give you drugs to which you'd had "horrendous adverse reactions" even though doctors had explicitly written in your chart you shouldn't have those drugs. A friend of mine had a similar problem, and we decided maybe he should have hung a sign around his neck with a list of the drugs he wasn't supposed to get.

    Handler: That doesn't sound like a bad idea. [A doctor once told me about] a registered nurse who had a "Do Not Resuscitate" order tattooed on her abdomen. She said she felt it was the only way her wishes would be respected.

    Cohen: You write about how you became "a criminal of sorts" by forging your doctor's signature on authorization slips so your bloodwork would be done by a lab that ran the tests more quickly. Were you afraid you'd get caught?

    Handler: Nothing bad is going to happen to you if you don't do exactly as you're told. They weren't going to put me in jail. I worried about getting caught only because then I wouldn't be able to do it any more.

    Cohen: You describe your first doctor as being nasty, hostile and disrespectful. He yelled at your father for calling him on the phone with a question about your care. He yelled at you when you were in the middle of chemotherapy and came to see him with a rash and a fever because the fever was only 100 degrees. Did you wait too long to fire him?

    Handler: Oh, yeah. Doctors had told me that I would be endangering my care if I switched doctors, but that advice was criminal. Look, the only way to change things is through the marketplace. Recently I needed to have something in my mouth looked at. The doctor performed a biopsy without lidocaine -- just put a blade in my mouth and cut without telling me. I never went back, and I wrote him a three-page letter. You should leave a bad doctor, and if you have the energy, tell them why you left.

    Cohen: When you were being treated for leukemia, you were very, very sick. You said sometimes you were barely conscious. How'd you keep up the stamina to keep double-checking everyone's work?

    Handler: I was lucky to be able to maintain my strength and do it as long as I did, and my girlfriend at the time, Jackie, was willing to sit by my side and advocate for me, and she was very skilled at doing it. You wonder, how many people die from illnesses because the strength to keep up vigilance runs out?"

    @ecstatichamster @burtlancast @Regina @DaveFoster @Drareg
     
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    I can't be sure considering my biases, but it feels like this entire event has really put the incompetence and negligence of the medical system that's been increasing for years on full display like it never has been before.

    It's seeping out through the cracks in videos like this one, and the other two from the NY doctor and nurse. Quite amazing, and terrifying.
     
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    Wow, this is a very helpful post, thanks @haidut

    Another thing I learned is that one doctor may go out on a limb, so to speak, and prescribe something a little edgy, or avoid prescribing the drug that is usual for the condition even though harmful.

    But in a hospital setting, with several “specialists” they won’t dare go out on a limb in any way. So you are likely to get the care that is totally standard, and often really harmful, because each doctor doesn’t want to vary the script because he’s being scrutinized by the others.

    I saw this with my mother before she died, 4 specialists in her room. And the care she got, well, suffice to say, they were very insistent (I refused) she get her flu and pneumonia shot a few weeks before she died.

    They simply have boxes to check and they will check those boxes unless you have a family member (as I was to my mother) literally there in the hospital to say “no.”
     
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    Sorry for your loss. At least she had you to be in there with her. Imagine what terror a critically ill experiences when in the hospital surrounded by psychopaths who stream in to examine (and often medically torture) the latest "specimen" who strolled into the hospital. I have actually heard pediatricians refer to children patients like that and it was not an isolated occurrence.
     
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    I wonder if it has to do with insurance payments. I understand you only get paid once per covid patient.
     
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