Am I Missing Out Not Having Sex?

[Lucenzo01]

LMAO at women giving advice on how to get a girl. Do the opposite of what they say is right and you will be fine boyos.

 

[Makrosky]

A lot of women "know" what kind of man they want, and are happy to tell you, and can tell men how to "get" women. The thing is they vary from their ideals constantly (How many times have you heard, Oh he's so not my type but... Men do this varying from ideals as well, but are less rigid about it) They also have no idea how to pick up and have sex with a heterosexual woman, having never done it themselves. As I said before, you wouldn't take advice on how to get a six pack from a 400 lb man. Why would you take advice on picking up chicks from middle aged women? Why would a young man take pick up advice from basically his mum?

It is more about who you are as a man rather than the boxes you tick. People should aim to improve themselves as themselves, rather than improve themselves in order to tick a box (For example, going to the gym to improve themselves, compared to shaving their beard to please a specific sort of woman)

Definitely. I agree with you 100%. Better to be true to yourself than modify yourself to beg for sex. I would spend the rest of my life with hookers rather than following Ella's advice.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Depends on how young you're talking. If they are young enough not to have started university, then you have a better chance but if they are attending university or recently graduated then you need to work harder to get their attention. Smart hot females have university debts to repay, so they will be working hard. Many have started their own business well before they get to university and once graduated are ambitious to succeed either in the corporate world or take ther business to the next level. They are not frequenting bars for hot pick ups. They are attending workshops or short courses, networking and staying abreast of the competition. They are not thinking about hot guys. They know hot guys are nice to look at but these girls have no time for time wasters. The are running full steam ahead and do not want to be slowed down with relationships. They are far from insecure. They have a good sense of who they are and what they want in life.

Having read your posts I quite admire you. However, in your post you are representing a very difficult target demographic for men. These women are busy, and most of them are not making all that much money, which would make them a financial burden. Those that are making a lot of money are hard targets because women still require men to make as much of more money. A hot waitress will have a lot more time to hang out with a guy, lower requirements for income and won't be burdened with debt. For having fun or starting a family, a blue collar woman seems preferable.

 

[ReSTART]

People who have had sex are missing out on virginity.

 

[FredSonoma]

Thanks for clearing that up, you undoubtedly being the allmighty authority on the dyamics of sex. No need to draft an argument or expand on any of the points of disagreement; you work with REAL models! So I can just take you right at your word!

Oh wait, did you say you work in the entertainment industry? AKA the fakest industry in the known universe full of depressed simpletons seeking fake relationships for the sake of social status and wealth? Sorry but it doesn't sound like your credentials fit the bill here. What you know of women and what they seek in a man is nothing close to the reality. Attractive models and actresses will generally have the ambition and wherewithall (and ceaseless recognition from beta males of her goddliness) to make themselves available to man, actively.

The other 99% of the population of females are significantly more shy and insecure. I have taken a few acting classes (often recommended to me by acquaintances due to my striking looks and voice) and it is true these type of women tend to be much more outgoing and fun, although they usually come with their own types of problems. They sleep around a lot, are often even more unduely full of themselves then average women, and can be even more completely vapid beneath the surface (treating men as a means to an end)

If you don't consider my photos attractive, that's inconsequential to me. I'm already confirmed in my perception of myself whenever I leave the house. It is funny how the people making money in the entertainment industry are often so dismally clueless and dishonest, I mean look at the actors that land roles in hollywood nowadays-the majority are a total joke.

brotherman just out of curiosity we neeeeeeeed to see your pics hahah, the ones you posted in the other thread it's hard to really get an idea of how your skull is shaped, if you could get a picture that's facing straight on, so we can see cheekbone width, that's taken from at least like 5-6 ft. away, we could tell so much better :)

 

[Prosper]

When you have an extremely developed chin, like mine, it's considered by women to be very sexy

I have taken a few acting classes (often recommended to me by acquaintances due to my striking looks and voice)

I think I should have an easier time getting dates, especially because I am considerred so physically attractive.

What I am saying is that my abnormal physical attractiveness tends to be more of a curse than a blessing

My intimidating secondary sex characteristics like thick beard, large chin, angled jaw, broad shoulders, deep voice, coupled with classically pretty features like nice big eyes, good hair, plump lips and straight teeth and a carved nose, is what i believe women find the most attractive.

Fukin lol

 

[Kate]

Well yeah, I suppose I didn't express it correctly, but that is a point I'm making. Modern feminism has made women LESS secure althought it portends to do otherwise. It not only forces women to mentally lie to themselves and constantly say "I don't need a man" or "men are pigs" but also creates objective insecurities in the way it leads to many women achieving gratification through one night stands at bars and clubs and being financially independent. Often times that means taking a job that they don't genuinely care about, or a job telling young men how to behave.

Well yeah, I suppose I didn't express it correctly, but that is a point I'm making. Modern feminism has made women LESS secure althought it portends to do otherwise. It not only forces women to mentally lie to themselves and constantly say "I don't need a man" or "men are pigs" but also creates objective insecurities in the way it leads to many women achieving gratification through one night stands at bars and clubs and being financially independent. Often times that means taking a job that they don't genuinely care about, or a job telling young men how to behave.

Media and modern feminism has definitely messed some people up. But, it is definitely not the majority, only a few women think that men are pigs, and they wouldn't be worth concerning yourself with because they aren't girlfriend material (& prob lesbian too). This is the first time I have ever heard someone claim to be handsome and also claim that it puts him at a disadvantage with women because society teaches them to fear them. Blaming personal problems on the society makes you sound like a feminist. If you are having trouble with woman maybe it's because you are not as gorgeous as you think, or you don't have a good personality, or job. But, I am sure you will find a women who really appreciates you and "thick beard, large chin, angled jaw". Good Luck

 

[sladerunner69]

Media and modern feminism has definitely messed some people up. But, it is definitely not the majority, only a few women think that men are pigs, and they wouldn't be worth concerning yourself with because they aren't girlfriend material (& prob lesbian too). This is the first time I have ever heard someone claim to be handsome and also claim that it puts him at a disadvantage with women because society teaches them to fear them. Blaming personal problems on the society makes you sound like a feminist. If you are having trouble with woman maybe it's because you are not as gorgeous as you think, or you don't have a good personality, or job. But, I am sure you will find a women who really appreciates you and "thick beard, large chin, angled jaw". Good Luck

Hmm I feel like your mincing and parlaying words here. Modern feminism has done more than totally mess up a few "lesbians", it has totally shifted the status quo, the paradigm has changed, etc. Ideas are extremely powerful, and remember that the biggest influence on someone IS NOT genetics, as Dr. Peat would attest, but it is their environment. How do you think Nazi germany happened? There are plenty of examples of whole populations completely absorbing and believing in twisted ideas, even if these ideas seem to lack any sort of morale underpinning.

For example, modern feminism has altered the viewpoint of the average girl so much, that millennials today are engaging in sex at a rate of 25% of their parents a few decades ago... If you think about that for a minute you can see how drastic and insane that rate change is. There are probably other factors such as widespread internet pornography and video-games (two staples in the modern man-child's diet) but from the female side of the equation I blaim well-intentionned but careless teachings of modern feminism.

Yeah maybe I am complaining a bit too much about being attractive, and I don't mean to do that. I mean to complain about the dynamic of sex, and why I think it has become so difficult. Certainly, I can get dates, Ive gottten several fo them in the past. But the process of getting one was tedious as hell, and I'm not the dbag type who relentlessly pursues girls until they submit to my sexual advances. Which is quite contradictory fi you think about it, because that's the type of men that feminism is trying to warn young women against, but when women don't have a comprehensive understanding or experience dating, they put up they stack their defenses and ignore handsome men from the moment they sense one is in the vaccinity, that the only types of men who will ever pick up these silly "prudent" "stuck up" girls are the ones who DGAF and are willing to completely disregard the girls emotions! It's a total connundrum, and I've observed it all over the place. The other option is that a women finds an extremely passive, boring boy who has no intimidation factor, sort of liek the polar opposite of the dbag I just described. When there is a guy who is somewhere in the middle, being very fun and cool and goodlooking, but also possessing some of the positive traits of the latter because he loves and cares for the other but doesn't want to push her around too hard or "creep" on her, then this is the kind of guy that seems to always be caught in the middle. I know plenty of guys like this and they are all deeply frusturated to the point of alcoholism or heavy marijuana usage.

But I still beleive the core problem is that girls ARE TOO DAMN FULL OF THEMSELVES

 

[Kate]

Fukin lol

with that confidence and good looks he should have girls flocking to him
but, that damn feminist society makes them all scared of him

 

[evo21]

But I still believe the core problem is that girls ARE TOO DAMN FULL OF THEMSELVES

I agree with that.

I don't think feminism is the main problem here. I believe the main problem of this generation is social media and smartphones.
Almost any minimally attractive young woman has an army of beta orbiters and white knights available to them in the palm of their hand. They are constantly being pampered with texts, images, videos, comments, likes on Facebook, Instagram, Tinder, etc, from thirsty men. How can they not be full of themselves?
That's why men need to inflict psychological trauma to these women to keep them around (in other words, treat them like crap). It's the only way to keep their inflated egos in check and maintain the polarity of the relationship.
The big problem with all of this is it tends to create or worsen mental illness in those women, which will feed their addictions even more.

To the older women commenting on this issue, your suggestions might have worked in your time, but with this generation of young women the game has been skewed in their favor. Even women of average beauty have a high value in the sexual market due to the constant attention and positive reinforcement they get. The chances of an average man to get an attractive woman for a monogamous long term relationship today are very slim.

 

[Kate]

Hmm I feel like your mincing and parlaying words here. Modern feminism has done more than totally mess up a few "lesbians", it has totally shifted the status quo, the paradigm has changed, etc. Ideas are extremely powerful, and remember that the biggest influence on someone IS NOT genetics, as Dr. Peat would attest, but it is their environment. How do you think Nazi germany happened? There are plenty of examples of whole populations completely absorbing and believing in twisted ideas, even if these ideas seem to lack any sort of morale underpinning.

For example, modern feminism has altered the viewpoint of the average girl so much, that millennials today are engaging in sex at a rate of 25% of their parents a few decades ago... If you think about that for a minute you can see how drastic and insane that rate change is. There are probably other factors such as widespread internet pornography and video-games (two staples in the modern man-child's diet) but from the female side of the equation I blaim well-intentionned but careless teachings of modern feminism.

Yeah maybe I am complaining a bit too much about being attractive, and I don't mean to do that. I mean to complain about the dynamic of sex, and why I think it has become so difficult. Certainly, I can get dates, Ive gottten several fo them in the past. But the process of getting one was tedious as hell, and I'm not the dbag type who relentlessly pursues girls until they submit to my sexual advances. Which is quite contradictory fi you think about it, because that's the type of men that feminism is trying to warn young women against, but when women don't have a comprehensive understanding or experience dating, they put up they stack their defenses and ignore handsome men from the moment they sense one is in the vaccinity, that the only types of men who will ever pick up these silly "prudent" "stuck up" girls are the ones who DGAF and are willing to completely disregard the girls emotions! It's a total connundrum, and I've observed it all over the place. The other option is that a women finds an extremely passive, boring boy who has no intimidation factor, sort of liek the polar opposite of the dbag I just described. When there is a guy who is somewhere in the middle, being very fun and cool and goodlooking, but also possessing some of the positive traits of the latter because he loves and cares for the other but doesn't want to push her around too hard or "creep" on her, then this is the kind of guy that seems to always be caught in the middle. I know plenty of guys like this and they are all deeply frusturated to the point of alcoholism or heavy marijuana usage.

But I still beleive the core problem is that girls ARE TOO DAMN FULL OF THEMSELVES

then you should consider yourself blessed that these girls that are so full of themselves never try to date you.

 

[Amazoniac]

girls ARE TOO DAMN FULL OF THEMSELVES

Consider that girls can be reflecting your behavior, which in turn is a reflect of all of these thoughts that you shared..

What's up with the constant reaffirmation thing?

I agree with that.

I don't think feminism is the main problem here. I believe the main problem of this generation is social media and smartphones.
Almost any minimally attractive young woman has an army of beta orbiters and white knights available to them in the palm of their hand. They are constantly being pampered with texts, images, videos, voices, likes on Facebook, Instagram, Tinder, etc, from thirsty men. How can they not be full of themselves?
That's why men need to inflict psychological trauma to these women to keep them around (in other words, treat them like crap). It's the only way to keep their inflated egos in check and maintain the polarity of the relationship.
The big problem with all of this is it tends to create or worsen mental illness in those women, which will feed their addictions even more.

To the older women commenting on this, your suggestions might have worked in your time, but with this generation of young women the game has been skewed in their favor. Even women of average beauty have a high value in the sexual market due to the constant attention and positive reinforcement they get. The chances of an average man to get an attractive woman for a monogamous long term relationship today are very slim.

It's quite likely that if you were in their position you would behave the same way. They aren't seeking disdain, it's just a trait that cannot appear on needy man. A kind guru is more attractive than someone that's not, both being autonomous.
burtlan, pboy and Travis aren't complaining.

 

[pisser]

Consider that girls can be reflecting your behavior, which in turn is a reflect of all of these thoughts that you shared..

I was about to mention that.

if you're able to achieve true passion without sex, more power to you. Just make sure you maintain good relationships with people of the opposite sex cause you'll eventually need love in your life.

 

[Amazoniac]

I was about to mention that.

if you're able to achieve true passion without sex, more power to you. Just make sure you maintain good relationships with people of the opposite sex.

The healthiest people that I know don't overestimate sex. Seems enjoyable but no more yet no less than playing a game, being in wild nature, around friends, etc.

 

[pisser]

The healthiest people that I know don't overestimate sex. Seems enjoyable but no more yet no less than playing a game, being in wild nature, around friends, etc.

Exactly. Letting go of your inhibitions is a huge part of truly connecting with people, and if you can't do that during sex, God help you.

 

[evo21]

It's quite likely that if you were in their position you would behave the same way. They aren't seeking disdain, it's just a trait that cannot appear on needy man. A kind guru is more attractive than someone that's not, both being autonomous.
burtlan, pboy and Travis aren't complaining.

Yeah i probably would. I'm not saying what they are doing is wrong, they're just taking advantage of the situation like any smart person would. But it will mess with their minds if they're not careful.
I'm not complaining, i accept that's the reality we live in and try to navigate around it.

 

[Kate]

I agree with that.

I don't think feminism is the main problem here. I believe the main problem of this generation is social media and smartphones.
Almost any minimally attractive young woman has an army of beta orbiters and white knights available to them in the palm of their hand. They are constantly being pampered with texts, images, videos, comments, likes on Facebook, Instagram, Tinder, etc, from thirsty men. How can they not be full of themselves?
That's why men need to inflict psychological trauma to these women to keep them around (in other words, treat them like crap). It's the only way to keep their inflated egos in check and maintain the polarity of the relationship.
The big problem with all of this is it tends to create or worsen mental illness in those women, which will feed their addictions even more.

To the older women commenting on this, your suggestions might have worked in your time, but with this generation of young women the game has been skewed in their favor. Even women of average beauty have a high value in the sexual market due to the constant attention and positive reinforcement they get. The chances of an average man to get an attractive woman for a monogamous long term relationship today are very slim.

I don't think feminism is the problem either. But, I think there are tones of girls who are gorgeous going out with super average guys. However, this has to do with other qualities, personality, money and if they make the women more confident or less self conscious of themselves. Sure there are girls who think that they are too good for anyone, for me that is so rare to see! Females are genetically more inclined to care what people think, (might make them more active on social media, but in the end just makes them more self conscious)

I get where you are coming from, but honestly who cares about that percentage of woman who are so "damn full of themselves"
ignore them and spend your time searching for a girl who is right for you.

I don't think blaming society for the lack of interested girls like sladerunner is doing, is useful, just sounds like how feminists blame the patriarchy for there unsuccessful sad lives.

 

[Hugh Johnson]

I don't think feminism is the problem either. But, I think there are tones of girls who are gorgeous going out with super average guys. However, this has to do with other qualities, personality, money and if they make the women more confident or less self conscious of themselves. Sure there are girls who think that they are too good for anyone, for me that is so rare to see! Females are genetically more inclined to care what people think, (might make them more active on social media, but in the end just makes them more self conscious)

I get where you are coming from, but honestly who cares about that percentage of woman who are so "damn full of themselves"
ignore them and spend your time searching for a girl who is right for you.

I don't think blaming society for the lack of interested girls like sladerunner is doing, is useful, just sounds like how feminists blame the patriarchy for there unsuccessful sad lives.

I mostly agree, but feminism does share a small portion of blame. Young women are told they can have it all career, an attractive successful man will appear and marry them, kids, travel etc. It's a lie, most people will never have a career, they have an unfulfilling job to make ends meet, and starting a family is not easy, finding a man who will actually stand by you is not a given, and there really is a time limit on having kids and even more so on finding a good man.

Feminists can be blamed for telling women that their biology does not matter. It does. Women lose attractiveness fast after 30 so finding a good man is not something you can delay. Women and men are also not in the same position with kids. In practice, men can leave but women's biology compels them to stay. Ignore that and becoming a single mother or destroying the protections patriarchy built for women and children (alimony, child support, requiring men to be responsible and get jobs etc.) are a real danger.

Anyway, most young women are good people navigating a world where everyone wants something from them and lies constantly to manipulate them. It's a tough game.

 

[Kate]

I mostly agree, but feminism does share a small portion of blame. Young women are told they can have it all career, an attractive successful man will appear and marry them, kids, travel etc. It's a lie, most people will never have a career, they have an unfulfilling job to make ends meet, and starting a family is not easy, finding a man who will actually stand by you is not a given, and there really is a time limit on having kids and even more so on finding a good man.

Feminists can be blamed for telling women that their biology does not matter. It does. Women lose attractiveness fast after 30 so finding a good man is not something you can delay. Women and men are also not in the same position with kids. In practice, men can leave but women's biology compels them to stay. Ignore that and becoming a single mother or destroying the protections patriarchy built for women and children (alimony, child support, requiring men to be responsible and get jobs etc.) are a real danger.

Anyway, most young women are good people navigating a world where everyone wants something from them and lies constantly to manipulate them. It's a tough game.

Agreed, feminism can be blamed for telling people garbage that will not help them. But, from my point of view not many people are "modern feminists"
and it is definitely not to blame for their personal problems XD

 

[evo21]

I don't think feminism is the problem either. But, I think there are tones of girls who are gorgeous going out with super average guys. However, this has to do with other qualities, personality, money and if they make the women more confident or less self conscious of themselves. Sure there are girls who think that they are too good for anyone, for me that is so rare to see! Females are genetically more inclined to care what people think, (might make them more active on social media, but in the end just makes them more self conscious)

I get where you are coming from, but honestly who cares about that percentage of woman who are so "damn full of themselves"
ignore them and spend your time searching for a girl who is right for you.

I don't think blaming society for the lack of interested girls like sladerunner is doing, is useful, just sounds like how feminists blame the patriarchy for there unsuccessful sad lives.

Yeah i see cute girls with average guys as well. But then i hear stories all the time, from people i know and from the internet, that they often have multiple partners (polygamy) or are constantly trying to jump to a new relationship (serial monogamy). And the ones that don't give in to their urges will run out of willpower very quickly and become sick and depressed. It's not their fault though. Imagine an alcohol addict being exposed to drinks all the time. I'm not blaming society. Female hypergamy is natural and always been there. But the technology we have access to today makes it hard to contain and control it.

Not all women are full of themselves, but all of them are affected by social media, tv and smartphone use to some degree.

Oh and by the way, there's no such thing as a personality. When a guy makes you laugh, it's not because he's funny. It's because you're nervous around him and you need to relieve the tension. Same thing with charm, confidence, niceness or any other adjective you can think of. It depends how you perceive that person.