Am I Missing Out Not Having Sex?

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Do you mean if you are the queen he is the king? I'm pretty sure that's what you mean to. Being the queen wth a prince sounds very Oedipal.

Exactly what I thought when I wrote it. He was my prince from the very first I met him. He has always been my prince. To call him my king implies that we that we have aged. However, time and space is irrelevant because we feel eternally youthful. He doesn't see that I have aged. He still sees me as the youthful girl he first met and constantly reminds me that my face has not lined through the passage of the years. He always greets me with "how's my sexy wife going?" To me he is still a boy - Peter Pan and I am his Wendy.


"Seduction" where feminism is stripping women of any real power because in some contexts subtle power is more effective than explicit power. Being the voice in your husbands ear about the future value of properties is one example. It's somehow steering the reins while someone else holds them.

@seraphim you captured it perfectly. Yes subtle power is more effective than explicit power. You are so intuitive and describe it so succinctly "steering the reins while someone else holds them." I have learnt to do this with my children. Not always easy with head strong individuals. No need to bash them over the head. You always make them think that they are fully in control of their decision making while gently coaxing them in the direction that you know is best for them.
 

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Read The Red Pill subreddit. Alpha *****, beta bucks, and everyday that pass is more obvius. The liberation of women has show their true colours. Women are not monogamous or polygamous, they are hypergamous. Sick, but efficient. Enjoy the decline or rott, there is no middle term.
 
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This is not necessarily true of women. Since high school, I hated having to hold hands with boyfriends and could not stand them invading my personal space, My husband is a touchy, feely type of guy which drives me insane because I just don't need so much touching. He saids he can't help it. He needs closeness of touch and my nervous system does not tolerate it. His mother was a cold b**** where I always felt loved by my parents. You give some much of yourself to others that personal space becomes sacred. He calls me a prickly pear and I call him a baby. Still, we love, respect and tolerate each other just like we love, respect and tolerate our children. Sexual chemistry is important from the get go; if it had not been there in the beginning; there would have been no children in my life. It is the love of our children that keeps us together not the sex.

Ella there's this little thing called selection bias. If you're posting on an online forum that's not facebook or instagram you're not the average woman by a long shot.
 

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The fact that I cook all his meals from scratch, look after the garden so he can have delicious meals not a sign of love? I have born him three beautiful children (yes they have left home) which he absolutely adores and they adore him. I raised them on my own because he was always travelling. I ring him everyday to make sure he is OK. I have fought many battles for him legally. I have written tonnes of research papers for him plus reports and correspondences for his work. I entertained and cooked for his colleagues and relatives and looked after his invalid mother with mobility issues. Many would have left her to rot in age-care. I took her off all meds and rehabilitated her. She was not even my mum. It is a big asked to care for someone elses mother, especially when she had been a very neglectful mother to her only son. I nursed him through his ulcerative colitis when he was skin and bones and they wanted to remove his bowels and I rehabilitated him without surgery. His mother didn't even visit him. He eats everything now even milk and dairy, gluten with absolutely no issues. He is the envy of all his mates because he can run like a kid, has no belly and still has all his hair. Meanwhile, his friends have to watch and be careful of what they eat. He eats like a horse and has the body of a thoroughbred.

As for the atm. He came into the marriage with little wealth and I made him a rich man. I definately did not marry him for his money because there wasn't any. His mother squandered the family wealth. He was shocked to find out how much I had accumulated before I came into the marriage. He never suspected that I started investing my money from a young age. He castigated me for taking $30,000 from his savings for a deposit on an investment property, while we were still building our house. He scolded me for bidding too high. I told him one day this house will make you a rich man This property is now worth 1.2million and today we can build apartments on it. I told him that one day we would buy the property next door and I did. I showed him how to make money. He had no idea how too if I didn't push him. I had many opportunities to marry wealthy men but what was the fun in that. I wanted to create my own wealth and I was looking for someone special to help me achieve my dreams. If I had married a wealthy man I probably would have needed to be submissive to his dictates. It would never have worked for me. I understood this from a young age. I needed complete freedom to be who I am. My husband gave me complete freedom and has always been my biggest supporter. I made the right choice because he had all the right traits of being faithful, good values, hardworking and the potential to be a good father. Besides, what is the chance of finding your soulmate. So glad I waited for him after all the those derelict ones. Yes, he was very fertile and so was I. I think with my last one we didn't even have sex. So his sperm must have been, not only good swimmers but pretty good jumpers and I was still breastfeeding.

I wish you luck in finding your soulmate.

If he treats me like his queen, then I treat him as my prince. Our relationship goes beyond the physical - there does not have to be sex involved for us to still be excited to please each other even after > 35 years.

Yes, I enjoy having my feet kissed very much :)
So now we see you did in your life exavtly the opposite of the advice you gave to the OP. I don't really get your point.
 

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So now we see you did in your life exavtly the opposite of the advice you gave to the OP. I don't really get your point.

A lot of women "know" what kind of man they want, and are happy to tell you, and can tell men how to "get" women. The thing is they vary from their ideals constantly (How many times have you heard, Oh he's so not my type but... Men do this varying from ideals as well, but are less rigid about it) They also have no idea how to pick up and have sex with a heterosexual woman, having never done it themselves. As I said before, you wouldn't take advice on how to get a six pack from a 400 lb man. Why would you take advice on picking up chicks from middle aged women? Why would a young man take pick up advice from basically his mum?

It is more about who you are as a man rather than the boxes you tick. People should aim to improve themselves as themselves, rather than improve themselves in order to tick a box (For example, going to the gym to improve themselves, compared to shaving their beard to please a specific sort of woman)
 

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Pff, if the question is to pick up, a lot of threads are about having the right face, or the right hair etc, showing that this is a common preocupation: how you look like.
In that case, some might ask themselves if this is right or not to keep the beard. If you ask about how to pick, how to "get", you get answers about how to please, of course!
Girls who want to please and pick up will also try things.

Then this is just something else if you talk about getting along with someone +35 years and keep the link etc.

Then if you talk about just sex, and about it being great when you are a long time with someone, or even great for 1 night or not even the night, this is something else. What makes it work goes beyond word to explain it. And it has to do with having space at subtle level and not only physical level, so that you can invite and dance with the other person. And if you get too close, the other cannot move. There is a build up like when you make a fire starting from a little chip: put the 2 stick too close, fire dies asfixated, and too far away, no heat and die as well. Also 1 stick alone never burns well!
 
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This is your primary problem. Women are, unfortunately often, [starts with C, rhymes with "HUNTS"] at this age. It will get better.

You also neglect to say what attracts *you*, but if you are looking at a certain above-average attractive subset of women in that age demographic, then you're setting yourself up for failure there, too. It's a pretty well established phenomenon that due to media influence, young men these days are likewise pretty picky about physical appearance. Women are supposed to look like porn stars and behave like June Cleaver (google it if you don't get the reference).

If you want young women to "settle" for you but you're not likewise willing to "settle" for less than your physical ideal, you're going to have a problem.

You further mention a heavy beard. I also will say, from memory, and just from a purely physical attraction standpoint, if you have a beard a la Tormund Giantsbane in "Game of Thrones", and don't need it to protect you from cold weather, you might consider shaving it off for a while. Young women in that demographic often find bushy biker beards scary. When I was in that demographic none of my friends liked bushy beards although many of us dated men with well maintained and trimmed beards. But some women don't like beards, period. Regardless of my age I've never been a huge fan any type of beard...IMO it can basically be a net to catch and harbor food particles, old saliva, various airborne bacteria, etc., thus requiring extra maintenance. Although I will say I find the big ginger who plays Tormund insanely hot and would make an exception to give him those monster babies he so badly wants and referenced in the next-to-last episode of the season. LOL


I[ve never seen that show and I don't have a heavy beard, just the ability to grow a very thick one. I shave every morning, and get a 5 o'clock shadow by 1 or 2 pm. I'm pointing this out because its a characteristic of high androgens, just like a chiselled jaw, large shoulders, muscularity, deep voice, etc. These are all traits that women find sexy. But yeah, Im clean shaven with medium sideburns and medium length hair.

But you make a good point, women in the 18-24 age group tend to be particularly self centerred and mean, I think that's probably true. I think I should have an easier time getting dates, especially because I am considerred so physically attractive. What I am saying is that my abnormal physical attractiveness tends to be more of a curse than a blessing, because it seems like girls assume I'm not into them at all, and they make me work extra hard for them. Does that make sense?

I think women generally like dating guys who are less physically attractive than them, because the old stereotypical dynamic of a tough hardworking man and a pretty, dainty feminine girl is what the mass of simpletons instinctively believe in. I always see these beautiful girls with such bland, looking, borring guys, and it drives me mad. Of course I think the only difference is these dorky unattractive guys simply play into the female trap, and say all the obiedient, unoriginal lines.

Often times I'll talk to a girl and never make any romantic/sexual moves on them, and then they will somehow think Im not into them. The times I have made it painfully obvious that I was interested, told them they were "cute as hell" and hit on them in a jackassey way, were actually almost all succesful. It's like Im totally overestimating them or something.
 

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@sladerunner69 The autism is strong here...too strong to explain that if you possessed the alleged 'abnormal physical attractiveness' which you claim, women would most certainly make it easy for you. You'd have to, as they say, swat them off like flies. This is not the case for you, because women, at most, prefer to pique your interest (a fuel women run off of, and men just enjoy) and keep you as an option. Women making men 'work extra hard' for them is a politically correct measure to keep men like you interested and at a distance. When a women is actually attracted (and wants to have sex with you) they won't go about it surreptitiously. In my line of work I am around models, actors, and genetically blessed (aesthetically, at least) people. I see how it unfolds, and you are mistaken on almost every point. If it's any consolation, your armchair theories on how women work are common folly and self-soothing in a way. Before experiencing through my social network the actualities of social dynamics, I shared some of your rationale.

I saw you post your pics in another thread, and I mean no offense, just clearing a few things up.

To the OP, yes, you are missing out by not having sex.
 

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Meaningless sex is not much of a loss, but if you are not putting yourself out there, I think you are missing out on connecting with a woman who you might fall in love with.
 
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@sladerunner69 The autism is strong here...too strong to explain that if you possessed the alleged 'abnormal physical attractiveness' which you claim, women would most certainly make it easy for you. You'd have to, as they say, swat them off like flies. This is not the case for you, because women, at most, prefer to pique your interest (a fuel women run off of, and men just enjoy) and keep you as an option. Women making men 'work extra hard' for them is a politically correct measure to keep men like you interested and at a distance. When a women is actually attracted (and wants to have sex with you) they won't go about it surreptitiously. In my line of work I am around models, actors, and genetically blessed (aesthetically, at least) people. I see how it unfolds, and you are mistaken on almost every point. If it's any consolation, your armchair theories on how women work are common folly and self-soothing in a way. Before experiencing through my social network the actualities of social dynamics, I shared some of your rationale.

I saw you post your pics in another thread, and I mean no offense, just clearing a few things up.

To the OP, yes, you are missing out by not having sex.
My thoughts exactly. If I looked like a model I wouldn't be on RPF trying to make my cheekbones grow.
 

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@sladerunner69 The autism is strong here...too strong to explain that if you possessed the alleged 'abnormal physical attractiveness' which you claim, women would most certainly make it easy for you. You'd have to, as they say, swat them off like flies. This is not the case for you, because women, at most, prefer to pique your interest (a fuel women run off of, and men just enjoy) and keep you as an option. Women making men 'work extra hard' for them is a politically correct measure to keep men like you interested and at a distance. When a women is actually attracted (and wants to have sex with you) they won't go about it surreptitiously. In my line of work I am around models, actors, and genetically blessed (aesthetically, at least) people. I see how it unfolds, and you are mistaken on almost every point. If it's any consolation, your armchair theories on how women work are common folly and self-soothing in a way. Before experiencing through my social network the actualities of social dynamics, I shared some of your rationale.

I saw you post your pics in another thread, and I mean no offense, just clearing a few things up.

To the OP, yes, you are missing out by not having sex.

Thanks for clearing that up, you undoubtedly being the allmighty authority on the dyamics of sex. No need to draft an argument or expand on any of the points of disagreement; you work with REAL models! So I can just take you right at your word!

Oh wait, did you say you work in the entertainment industry? AKA the fakest industry in the known universe full of depressed simpletons seeking fake relationships for the sake of social status and wealth? Sorry but it doesn't sound like your credentials fit the bill here. What you know of women and what they seek in a man is nothing close to the reality. Attractive models and actresses will generally have the ambition and wherewithall (and ceaseless recognition from beta males of her goddliness) to make themselves available to man, actively.

The other 99% of the population of females are significantly more shy and insecure. I have taken a few acting classes (often recommended to me by acquaintances due to my striking looks and voice) and it is true these type of women tend to be much more outgoing and fun, although they usually come with their own types of problems. They sleep around a lot, are often even more unduely full of themselves then average women, and can be even more completely vapid beneath the surface (treating men as a means to an end)

If you don't consider my photos attractive, that's inconsequential to me. I'm already confirmed in my perception of myself whenever I leave the house. It is funny how the people making money in the entertainment industry are often so dismally clueless and dishonest, I mean look at the actors that land roles in hollywood nowadays-the majority are a total joke.
 

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Women making men 'work extra hard' for them is a politically correct measure to keep men like you interested and at a distance.
Nop!
When you keep somebody at distance, it means you feel or fear the person is or might be too invading.
A lot of people are nice when they "advertize" for themselves, and when they think the other is hooked, they stop this fake behaviour and make too fast and irrespectful contact.

Staying at the border of somebody isan art of feeling: not pushy and not too distant, just the right contact... Be too close, and the other steps back....
 

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Depends on how young you're talking. If they are young enough not to have started university, then you have a better chance but if they are attending university or recently graduated then you need to work harder to get their attention. Smart hot females have university debts to repay, so they will be working hard. Many have started their own business well before they get to university and once graduated are ambitious to succeed either in the corporate world or take ther business to the next level. They are not frequenting bars for hot pick ups. They are attending workshops or short courses, networking and staying abreast of the competition. They are not thinking about hot guys. They know hot guys are nice to look at but these girls have no time for time wasters. The are running full steam ahead and do not want to be slowed down with relationships. They are far from insecure. They have a good sense of who they are and what they want in life.

I don't know "many" let alone any females that have started their own businesses before or during university. I study biology which attracts more women than the other sciences and the majority of them over-dress to go to uni
and waste a lot of money. They certainly are thinking about hot guys and certainly aren't going to conferences and networking. Honestly, I can't think of a single girl that I've met at university that has all or even half of those
behaviours that you've listed.
My fiancee has a normal job and holds many more of those traits than the average university girl. It's my experience that university students aren't particularly ambitious.
 

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@seraphim absolutely gorgeous. Thanking you for posting. This is living the sensual life and such loving families. The food looks absolutely devine. You take the simplest of ingredients and turn it into a dish that excites the tastes, strengthens the bonds and makes the fatigue of hard work a distant memory. People say that I go to great efforts to feed my family well. However, I know the secret of keeping the family bonds strong. When they have been working hard and stress out of their brains, they know they can come home have their bellies fed, recouperate then return to the cold hard world to fight another day.

These simple people work extremely hard for such simple pleasures in life and the young men on this forum complain they have to work too hard to have sex with young hot chicks. :smack

Perhaps if they could climb those dangerously tall trees to collect that golden honey and mix it with yak milk, those young chicks may be more receptive to their advances. If young females are insecure it is because they lack nourishment at every level.

I know what young females want and they are never going to tell you. Its secret women's business. I never stopped working with young females or females at any age. They can't looked to their girlfriends because they are as confused as them. So they seek the counsel of either their mother (if the relationship is strong and the mother is not derelict herself) or an older women they trust and is non-judgemental. I teach them to harness and funnel their sexual energy into achieving their life goals. Sexual energy is an extremely powerful energy. Best you learn to control it, than it control you. Giving your sexuality away freely to strangers, is a sign of weakness, not strength. Remember, the key word here is, and always is, ENERGY. If she gives it away freely, then she is looking to draw energy from you; as she is lacking it in herself. The relationship fizzles out because she can not give any more. She has had her fix and moves on until the next time. It is the same with men who are promiscuous. Healthy, strong, smart women sense this weakness in men and want no bar of them. They will settle for someone who is faithful and reliable and yes if he is too attractive, there is the risk she may have to fend off other females. It all needs to be weighed up to ensure the risk is worth taking. The problem is that there are too many defective people out there and some choose to be on their own, rather than risk a disastrous future.

Surprisingly, how many ugly men have the gift of charming women. Study the women they attract. If ugly men are successful then it should not be too hard for a decent looking young man. My youngest son says, the trick is to treat them mean, keep them keen. Those girls though, were a disaster, emotionally. Good thing he has now matured and has learnt to channel his sexual energy into more worthwhile pursuits. He was too young to understand that the sex on tap was a means to an end for these young girls - entrapment. When he broke the relationship, one slashed her wrists and ended up in hospital and the mother blamed my son and not the daughter for being stupid for opening a bank account with him to put a deposit on a house, buying him clothes and luxuries and then arrangement of their engagement. Fully backed with the help of her mother. He was only 19 for crying out loud. :hairpullThe mother should have known better, but she was a basket-case herself with the father in jail. His wise mother though told him from the begining that this girl was a disaster case. She was not the only one.
Why does he have all these girls throwing themselves at him? His friends can't understand why he is such a chick magnet. The ones that throw themselves at him, are not right for him. The world is his oyster and he simply does not need insecure young hot chick's emotional garbage to get in his way. He says to me "MUUMM" "I would have been married now. I can't image how close I came" "Yes, my son," Good thing mum's looking out for you :therethere

I am sure your mum has plenty advise to give her young son about picking up hot young chicks for one night stands. She was one herself not too long ago. I am sure that even if she is 90 years old; she can remember the sexual force coursing through her veins.

Perhaps in her youth it wasn't so much in your face as it is today.
 

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I don't know "many" let alone any females that have started their own businesses before or during university. I study biology which attracts more women than the other sciences and the majority of them over-dress to go to uni
and waste a lot of money. They certainly are thinking about hot guys and certainly aren't going to conferences and networking. Honestly, I can't think of a single girl that I've met at university that has all or even half of those behaviours that you've listed.
My fiancee has a normal job and holds many more of those traits than the average university girl. It's my experience that university students aren't particularly ambitious.

Maybe it is the country you live in and perhaps it is the economical situation of my country. I work empowering young females to make them strong physically, emotionally & financially. I want them to be business smart and not dependant on a man for financial security. In my country there will be no jobs for many of the university graduates. They have huge debts and no stable employement to repay their debt. They are locked out of the housing market. Many industries have closed down and parents are left without employment, thus the children have a strong sense of responsibility to help the family's financial situation. I help them with their business plan and steer them in the direction for success. Not only are they doing an undergraduate degree like your fiancee but they are doing diploma courses and short course to get their skills up. So even if they are studying the sciences, they will be also developing sales and marketing skills to promote their business start up. They are working at an advanced level than most young females. These a very smart and astute young women and don't care for dressing up and high heels. They are out to impress with their smarts and not their bodies. Yes they can certainly dress up and look stunning and it certainly helps them to promote themselves and win customers. Best time is when you are young and beautiful. This time should not be squandered. University takes a big chunk of your time and opportunities pass you by. However, they know never to cross the line between business and relationships. They are learning to be professional to the nth degree. There are plenty of males that have the hots for these young hot chicks. Their only insecurities they harbour; is their inexperience in dealing with the big world of business and this is where I help them. Showing them the ropes and negotiating the pathway to where they need to get to. Staying on track, not losing focus and to keep pushing no matter the challenges or obstacles. Hard work - you bet. These girls are up for the challenge.

Many have started their own fashion label or food product. One young girl is breeding organic pigs which she sells at the farmer's market. Making $20/kg. Run from home in a small area. Very profitable. Another, has started her own organic pet food brand. She now has investors come on board - very exciting. This girl run her own farm and doggy day care. One girl wholesale nail polish and makeup. She started this little business in her second year in high school. One gorgeous lass works as a plasterer and breeds and sells cattle. Her father was instumental in sowing the seeds. If she never marries, she has done well financially. It depends where the passion lies and I help them in acquiring the skills, networking etc. By time they finish the university course, they will be earning more than any employer is able to offer them. If they are not able to find a position they continue growing their business. I teach them how to invest their money wisely, introducing them to property and share investing and other investment instruments. You will not catch them at a pickup joint on a Saturday night. You will likely find them in the university library not working on their assignments but working on their research for their business.

This for me is more rewarding than when I was working with street girls. Still empowering young women - backing winners and not losers. These women will be running their own corporations in the future. The humbling thing about them. There friends and peers have no idea that they have this second life. They don't boast or brag about how much money they are making. They don't care for fancy cars, clothes etc. because all their money is plouged back into growing the business. So their friends may be working as a checkout chick, financing their nice cars and hanging off the arm of some male bozo. The attitude from these stupid girlfriends. "You poor thing, you don't have a job and you can't afford a car. Look at all the clothes I bought. We really must find you a boyfriend"

We just need to find them suitable partners and remember to make time for babies. Will the men be able to keep up with them? Remains to be seen.
 
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