Am I Missing Out Not Having Sex?

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This advice is useful if you want to be a provider for some 30+ woman. It is harmful if you want to date and have sex with the young hot ones.

So true, lol. Some of them don't even know how to clean a dish, or operate a dishwasher. I hated cleaning up the kitchen all the time, but it was my serenity to see pristine countertop before debaucherous sex.
 

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No, having a large chin and jaw is a masculine trait considerred handsome in men. When you have an extremely developed chin, like mine, it's considered by women to be very sexy but they will assume you are a bit of an aggressive dbag who likes to sleep around (because of heightened testosterone most likely) My intimidating secondary sex characteristics like thick beard, large chin, angled jaw, broad shoulders, deep voice, coupled with classically pretty features like nice big eyes, good hair, plump lips and straight teeth and a carved nose, is what i believe women find the most attractive. If you take these two broad areas of masculine and feminine beauty, and multiply them together, the highest product will be the movie star/ model looking "gorgeous" types. The problem with being this is that many women, taught by today society to fear men who are very physically handsome because they will make girls "easy prey", so they heighten their defenses around these men, or give them even less attention than normally deserved or will be standoffish around these men. Women are taught by modern feminists in school and media not to be insecure, and to never let a man "boss them around" and never to be dependant on men. So they put up a subconcious barrier against gorgeous, strong men, and they are forced to work even harder to overcome that barrier. Thus many of these men throw in the towel, give up pursuing cold and shallow women with unfairly heightened defenses, and learn become homosexuals. This ensures that they will be able to date relatively simply, as men once did in past centuries before most women became convinced that all handsome men were jerkwads.

Interesting, I always thought that woman were mostly just insecure with dating someone better looking than themselves. You're saying that woman fear "being dominated, being easy prey etc." but I think in most cases it's the girl just wanting to be "good enough" to be with the handsome dude. Or maybe a mixture of both, there is the "I want to be a stronger person than that guy." or "I would never be worthy of that guy."

True, feminism and media are really messing with people, but I don't think that they are really achieving a world with less insecure women. I think it is the exact opposite, making women insecure, wired to compare themselves to others. But, on the other hand like you were saying there are those feminists that want really submissive men, but that's not really the majority (from what i see).
 

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Interesting, I always thought that woman were mostly just insecure with dating someone better looking than themselves. You're saying that woman fear "being dominated, being easy prey etc." but I think in most cases it's the girl just wanting to be "good enough" to be with the handsome dude. Or maybe a mixture of both, there is the "I want to be a stronger person than that guy." or "I would never be worthy of that guy."

True, feminism and media are really messing with people, but I don't think that they are really achieving a world with less insecure women. I think it is the exact opposite, making women insecure, wired to compare themselves to others. But, on the other hand like you were saying there are those feminists that want really submissive men, but that's not really the majority (from what i see).

Well yeah, I suppose I didn't express it correctly, but that is a point I'm making. Modern feminism has made women LESS secure althought it portends to do otherwise. It not only forces women to mentally lie to themselves and constantly say "I don't need a man" or "men are pigs" but also creates objective insecurities in the way it leads to many women achieving gratification through one night stands at bars and clubs and being financially independent. Often times that means taking a job that they don't genuinely care about, or a job telling young men how to behave.
 

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Well yeah, I suppose I didn't express it correctly, but that is a point I'm making. Modern feminism has made women LESS secure althought it portends to do otherwise. It not only forces women to mentally lie to themselves and constantly say "I don't need a man" or "men are pigs" but also creates objective insecurities in the way it leads to many women achieving gratification through one night stands at bars and clubs and being financially independent. Often times that means taking a job that they don't genuinely care about, or a job telling young men how to behave.
Yea I think that's true. Feminism is pretty popular but so is plastic surgery. I think the issue is malnutrition and poor facial development. When I look at people a generation or two older than I am they all seem to have better developed faces. It's hard to be confident when you dont look your best. Also to the point about not getting attention because you are so handsome - I think people who are above average in looks are pretty much an anomoly. It's kind of shocking to see a gorgeous guy on the street. I will look at him but I'll also look away sometimes just because there's a part of me that as a female feels like looking down is more appropriate. And this goes for passing anyone on the street. Eye contact can be very jarring.
 

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It is harmful if you want to date and have sex with the young hot ones.

Depends on how young you're talking. If they are young enough not to have started university, then you have a better chance but if they are attending university or recently graduated then you need to work harder to get their attention. Smart hot females have university debts to repay, so they will be working hard. Many have started their own business well before they get to university and once graduated are ambitious to succeed either in the corporate world or take ther business to the next level. They are not frequenting bars for hot pick ups. They are attending workshops or short courses, networking and staying abreast of the competition. They are not thinking about hot guys. They know hot guys are nice to look at but these girls have no time for time wasters. The are running full steam ahead and do not want to be slowed down with relationships. They are far from insecure. They have a good sense of who they are and what they want in life.
 

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Sex with a woman would be much easier if you learnt to pick up after yourself, can keep a tidy house and life. Have good antennae for not stepping in dog ***t. Are able to fix the roof when there is a leak, renovate and maintain your house, take the rubbish out, not only put the toilet seat down, but clean it and the shower. Do your own washing and hers. Pamper her with a nice wake-up tea or coffee in bed with little kisses and treat her like your queen. Having the ability to earn lots of money can make up for shortfalls in other areas. It means you can afford to hire someone to do the chores. Why would any woman invest in having sex with a male if he can't make her feel secure and treat her like his queen? If she happens to have your children she needs to be sure that you are going to hang around for a very long time.

Sex is overrated; it is nature's con to get you to procreate and strengthen that bond to keep two people together until children are independent. Which these day is a bloody long time. I don't think good sex or a strong chin or big muscles or a big **** is going to soften the burden. Lots of money will make up for unattractivemess. It is not that women are heartless; they need to be smart if they are to attach to a male for a lifetime in nurturing him and his children.



This is not necessarily true of women. Since high school, I hated having to hold hands with boyfriends and could not stand them invading my personal space, My husband is a touchy, feely type of guy which drives me insane because I just don't need so much touching. He saids he can't help it. He needs closeness of touch and my nervous system does not tolerate it. His mother was a cold b**** where I always felt loved by my parents. You give some much of yourself to others that personal space becomes sacred. He calls me a prickly pear and I call him a baby. Still, we love, respect and tolerate each other just like we love, respect and tolerate our children. Sexual chemistry is important from the get go; if it had not been there in the beginning; there would have been no children in my life. It is the love of our children that keeps us together not the sex.

This is odd advice. It gives the impression that you withhold sex from your husband unless he jumps through 100 hoops like some lapdog, whose existence is solely to please you, combined with being an atm. Loving each other should keep you together, what happens when the children move out?
 

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This is odd advice. It gives the impression that you withhold sex from your husband unless he jumps through 100 hoops like some lapdog, whose existence is solely to please you, combined with being an atm. Loving each other should keep you together, what happens when the children move out?

There is a saying that you should never take the advice of a woman on how to have sex with a woman.

I also agree that living with somebody with a mentality like that would be a nightmare. That doesn't sound like an equal relationship, but a woman that wants to be put on a pedestal.
 

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Interesting, I always thought that woman were mostly just insecure with dating someone better looking than themselves. You're saying that woman fear "being dominated, being easy prey etc." but I think in most cases it's the girl just wanting to be "good enough" to be with the handsome dude. Or maybe a mixture of both, there is the "I want to be a stronger person than that guy." or "I would never be worthy of that guy."

True, feminism and media are really messing with people, but I don't think that they are really achieving a world with less insecure women. I think it is the exact opposite, making women insecure, wired to compare themselves to others. But, on the other hand like you were saying there are those feminists that want really submissive men, but that's not really the majority (from what i see).

I learned to play submissive, but at the end of the day, passive aggressiveness
There is a saying that you should never take the advice of a woman on how to have sex with a woman.

I also agree that living with somebody with a mentality like that would be a nightmare. That doesn't sound like an equal relationship, but a woman that wants to be put on a pedestal.

LMAO
 

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It's hard to be confident when you dont look your best

Yes, generational malnutrition is at the route of insecurities. This why food and nourishing the body has been a lifetime passion for me. I started at a very young age (in my teens) helping and empowering street girls out of prostitution, educating them about safe sex, fighting their pimps, trying to get them off the drugs, attending their funerals and finding homes for their drug addicted babies. I never understood how such beautiful girls could allow themselves to be treated so dispicably. Many were enticed into prostitution by their boyfriends who lived off the money they earnt. I cried oceans of tears each time one was pregnant and continued their drug habit throughout the pregnancy. How could I ache so much for the mother and the brand new human that was growing within. Yet, the mother was competely devoided of any empathy or compassion for the new life that was growing within her. Their own mothers had no idea what their daughters were up to. Such a dark and ugly time in witnessing the worst of human nature. This early experience planted the seeds that led me into my research career. These girls had a choice and they were provided with many chances to change their course in life. However, their tiny babies had no choice and so I decided to focus my energy on those innocent children who had no choice; conceived into this world by ignorant and weak humans. We have come a long way from those dark ignorant times. Today there are many vocal advocates that nutrition matters and that healthy robust humans can only be bought about with optimal nutrition. In those early days I was vehemently attacked for having the audacity to advocate that food is powerful and that food matters. It was all about defected genes. Well I still haven't seen the evidence for defective genes. It is all about the every day choices we make. There is plenty of evidence showing foods turn off and turn on genes. Many of those girls did not get to celebrate their 30th birthday. Many died from uterine cancer leaving behind motherless and fatherless children. The choice to have unprotected sex with multiple partners results in uterine cancer at a young age. One such girl was 26 when she died, leaving behind a 4 year son with no father. She broken my heart and it was at this point that I decided, I was not going to help those who were fixated on a death wish. I was no longer going to stand in their way. They had no respect for human life. For me, the human body was the most magnificent in all creation and it was the most precious of gifts. Some experienced horrific deaths and some disappeared off the face of the earth; their bodies never to be found.
 

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Im dealing with college women aged 18-24 but most of the time now Im so jaded with tryign to date them that I give up before anything has even begun.
This is your primary problem. Women are, unfortunately often, [starts with C, rhymes with "HUNTS"] at this age. It will get better.

You also neglect to say what attracts *you*, but if you are looking at a certain above-average attractive subset of women in that age demographic, then you're setting yourself up for failure there, too. It's a pretty well established phenomenon that due to media influence, young men these days are likewise pretty picky about physical appearance. Women are supposed to look like porn stars and behave like June Cleaver (google it if you don't get the reference).

If you want young women to "settle" for you but you're not likewise willing to "settle" for less than your physical ideal, you're going to have a problem.

You further mention a heavy beard. I also will say, from memory, and just from a purely physical attraction standpoint, if you have a beard a la Tormund Giantsbane in "Game of Thrones", and don't need it to protect you from cold weather, you might consider shaving it off for a while. Young women in that demographic often find bushy biker beards scary. When I was in that demographic none of my friends liked bushy beards although many of us dated men with well maintained and trimmed beards. But some women don't like beards, period. Regardless of my age I've never been a huge fan any type of beard...IMO it can basically be a net to catch and harbor food particles, old saliva, various airborne bacteria, etc., thus requiring extra maintenance. Although I will say I find the big ginger who plays Tormund insanely hot and would make an exception to give him those monster babies he so badly wants and referenced in the next-to-last episode of the season. LOL
 

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if you have a beard a la Tormund Giantsbane in "Game of Thrones", you might consider shaving it off for a while. ... Although I will say I find the big ginger who plays Tormund insanely hot and would make an exception to give him those monster babies he so badly wants

This is why you don't take advice from a woman on how to sleep with women.
 

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@raypeatclips, it's called "levity". I was trying to insert a little into my post. Look it up if you don't understand what it is.

But regardless of what I *say* about *FICTIONAL* TV characters, to date, in my entire life (my years are quite a few more than yours, I'm sure) I've NEVER dated a man with that kind of beard.

Been asked out by a good handful of bushy beard and biker types, but never said yes.

Mainly because I couldn't get past the facial hair. Call me shallow, but it was a turn-off IRL. I know many women who feel like this. Kind of like unshaved leg hair on women is a turn-off for many men. And IIRC , unshaved leg hair doesn't have any potential to turn into a big ol' petri dish only a few hours after washing. So there's even less excuse for the prejudice against leg hair than there is for the prejudice against facial hair.

Secondly, I didn't say yes to the bearded guys who asked me out because it wasn't clear to me in their approach or any behavior I saw them perpetrate in my environment that they were rocking that facial hair with the heart, chutzpah, and sheer burl of that (again, FICTIONAL) TV character. :roll:

ALL of those intangibles factor into my [supposed to be] lighthearted statement about being turned on by a big bearded ginger TV character. But I can tell you straight up if he was a whiny twit I wouldn't look twice at him, fictional or not. A resentful, cynical, beta personality with a lot of facial hair would be infinitely worse than the facial hair itself.

So, did I miss out by "being shallow" and not taking some of these bewhiskered gentlemen up on their requests? Possibly. Or maybe not. We'll never know. I will say that now I'm older and wiser, I'd be more inclined to give closer scrutiny to the hairy guy's approach and behavior before turning him down out of hand.

But we're not talking about older and wiser women. We're talking about 18 - 24 y/o women, a notoriously mercurial, shallow, and fickle demographic, as a general rule. When I was in that demographic, facial hair was a HUGE turn off. And many of my friends felt the same.

If those are your targets, then you'd be wise to heed my words. Unless you're really attached to your facial hair and are prepared to take the potential consequences of your choices. That's always good. Not knockin' it. But just sayin'. You can't have it all ways.


Take that for what you think it's worth.
 

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I know, right! He wouldn't look twice at little old me. Although if he every saw me lose my temper real good he might. I could be a little contentious back in the day. :p:
He is more impressed by her fighting abilities than her short temper. He wants huge kids who can form a strong tribe defending their future territories, possibly beyond where the wall used to be.
 

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He is more impressed by her fighting abilities than her short temper. He wants huge kids who can form a strong tribe defending their future territories, possibly beyond where the wall used to be.
I know. I've been in more than a couple of fisticuffs back in the day. I liked to party back then and often frequented dive bars. Always was a little tough. Basically I used to be a Wildling in all but hygiene. :D

I hope at the end he becomes Ser Tormund and gets granted an estate in the North and marries Brienne and has all those monster babies he wants. I don't think he died in the Wall collapse. At least I hope not.
 

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@raypeatclips, it's called "levity". I was trying to insert a little into my post. Look it up if you don't understand what it is.

But regardless of what I *say* about *FICTIONAL* TV characters, to date, in my entire life (my years are quite a few more than yours, I'm sure) I've NEVER dated a man with that kind of beard.

Been asked out by a good handful of bushy beard and biker types, but never said yes.

Mainly because I couldn't get past the facial hair. Call me shallow, but it was a turn-off IRL. I know many women who feel like this. Kind of like unshaved leg hair on women is a turn-off for many men. And IIRC , unshaved leg hair doesn't have any potential to turn into a big ol' petri dish only a few hours after washing. So there's even less excuse for the prejudice against leg hair than there is for the prejudice against facial hair.

Secondly, I didn't say yes to the bearded guys who asked me out because it wasn't clear to me in their approach or any behavior I saw them perpetrate in my environment that they were rocking that facial hair with the heart, chutzpah, and sheer burl of that (again, FICTIONAL) TV character. :roll:

ALL of those intangibles factor into my [supposed to be] lighthearted statement about being turned on by a big bearded ginger TV character. But I can tell you straight up if he was a whiny twit I wouldn't look twice at him, fictional or not. A resentful, cynical, beta personality with a lot of facial hair would be infinitely worse than the facial hair itself.

So, did I miss out by "being shallow" and not taking some of these bewhiskered gentlemen up on their requests? Possibly. Or maybe not. We'll never know. I will say that now I'm older and wiser, I'd be more inclined to give closer scrutiny to the hairy guy's approach and behavior before turning him down out of hand.

But we're not talking about older and wiser women. We're talking about 18 - 24 y/o women, a notoriously mercurial, shallow, and fickle demographic, as a general rule. When I was in that demographic, facial hair was a HUGE turn off. And many of my friends felt the same.

If those are your targets, then you'd be wise to heed my words. Unless you're really attached to your facial hair and are prepared to take the potential consequences of your choices. That's always good. Not knockin' it. But just sayin'. You can't have it all ways.


Take that for what you think it's worth.

You don't have to explain your decisions to me. I just don't want the OP to take bad advice with regards to women and dating, much like I wouldn't like someone to take diet or supplement advice that I know is terrible.
 

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I know. I've been in more than a couple of fisticuffs back in the day. I liked to party back then and often frequented dive bars. Always was a little tough. Basically I used to be a Wildling in all but hygiene. :D

I hope at the end he becomes Ser Tormund and gets granted an estate in the North and marries Brienne and has all those monster babies he wants. I don't think he died in the Wall collapse. At least I hope not.
Yeah I think so too. Dany will die I am pretty sure next season. Jaimie will kill Cersi after she becomes the Night Queen and he will become Azor Ahai and will kill the Night King. Jon Snow/Aegon Targarian will take the throne and his children from Dany will build the Targaryan dynasty again. :)
 

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