Aluminum Chelation - How To Do It?

[lollipop]

We bought a Cell Spa. Go slow as it is powerful.

Thank you @achillea

 

[Steven Bussinger]

My understanding is that the body uses aluminum in place of silica, similar to how it uses bromine in place of iodine. So getting an adequate supply of silica should help. Some people recommend drinking Fiji water.

 

[Waynish]

Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt in the Heavy Metals Summit

But my preferred method from biophysics right now is the ionic foot bath. A friend of mine in Germany did a beautiful study that was. I have to say, never published but shows that on day three after a 30 minute footbath, the aluminum excretion in 20 patients went up 600%. That is absolutely huge and actually astonishing. And she showed also by giving the patient oral cilantro, she could increase the number further. So the ionic footbath is an absolute winner.
There are a lot of false websites up right now that poo-poo it. Obviously somebody is not happy that this has come out.

Is there a DIY method your researcher friend has verified effective? If so, then can you post the DIY instructions? Thanks :)

 

[TreasureVibe]

Thank you for all of your replies! I have a question though, wouldn't taking malic acid be a bad idea considering it could bind to any mineral including the beneficial ones? Same goes for succinic acid and other chelators.

 

[Lilac]

I'm curious about why a foot bath as opposed to some other body parts? Is the reason physics or convenience or something else?

 

[mmb82]

Thank you for all of your replies! I have a question though, wouldn't taking malic acid be a bad idea considering it could bind to any mineral including the beneficial ones? Same goes for succinic acid and other chelators.

In general, all chelators have a preference in terms of what they bind to (aluminum vs mercury, etc.), but they will always pull out some of the "good" minerals with the "bad" ones.

Also, since no one mentioned it, trying to get rid of accumulated aluminum won't do you any good if you do not remove the source of aluminum that is causing the accumulation. If anything, using a chelator will make you feel worse if you are trying to get rid of aluminum without removing the source.

Some people mentioned using silica...the BioSil supplement is expensive and drinking a liter of Fiji or Volvic water daily can get expensive as well. The cheapest source of silica is actually food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). You can make your own "silica water" by mixing in 1 teaspoon of DE, letting it settle for 15-30 minutes, and then drinking the liquid (not the sediment at the bottom). Aiming for 1 liter of that daily should be enough silica.

 

[achillea]

The bottom of the foot is ready to absorb and excrete.

An old herbal practice is that if someone has a bad persistent cough is to rub garlic on the bottom of the feet and cover with white cotton socks while sleeping. Within seconds the person can taste the garlic in their mouth and the cough will disappear by morning. Throw away the socks! Try putting some garlic on the soft of your feet and you will understand why the foot bath.


Look up reflexology too.

 

[achillea]

In general, all chelators have a preference in terms of what they bind to (aluminum vs mercury, etc.), but they will always pull out some of the "good" minerals with the "bad" ones.

Also, since no one mentioned it, trying to get rid of accumulated aluminum won't do you any good if you do not remove the source of aluminum that is causing the accumulation. If anything, using a chelator will make you feel worse if you are trying to get rid of aluminum without removing the source.

Some people mentioned using silica...the BioSil supplement is expensive and drinking a liter of Fiji or Volvic water daily can get expensive as well. The cheapest source of silica is actually food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). You can make your own "silica water" by mixing in 1 teaspoon of DE, letting it settle for 15-30 minutes, and then drinking the liquid (not the sediment at the bottom). Aiming for 1 liter of that daily should be enough silica.

Only if the diatomaceous earth has been assayed for heavy metals.

There is aluminum falling from the sky in the airplane exhaust. So silica is a life solution. That is why horsetail tea.

 

[mmb82]

Only if the diatomaceous earth has been assayed for heavy metals.

There is aluminum falling from the sky in the airplane exhaust. So silica is a life solution. That is why horsetail tea.

Agreed about the heavy metals. I have never tried horsetail tea myself, but you may have just convinced me to. :)

 

[TreasureVibe]

In general, all chelators have a preference in terms of what they bind to (aluminum vs mercury, etc.), but they will always pull out some of the "good" minerals with the "bad" ones.

Also, since no one mentioned it, trying to get rid of accumulated aluminum won't do you any good if you do not remove the source of aluminum that is causing the accumulation. If anything, using a chelator will make you feel worse if you are trying to get rid of aluminum without removing the source.

Some people mentioned using silica...the BioSil supplement is expensive and drinking a liter of Fiji or Volvic water daily can get expensive as well. The cheapest source of silica is actually food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). You can make your own "silica water" by mixing in 1 teaspoon of DE, letting it settle for 15-30 minutes, and then drinking the liquid (not the sediment at the bottom). Aiming for 1 liter of that daily should be enough silica.

What could be the source?

Only if the diatomaceous earth has been assayed for heavy metals.

There is aluminum falling from the sky in the airplane exhaust. So silica is a life solution. That is why horsetail tea.

Is Horsetail tea sufficient enough for silica? And doesn't it have alot of fluoride like other teas?

 

[mmb82]

What could be the source?

Typical sources are antiperspirants, cooking food in aluminum foil, Tetra-Paks (the cardboard-ish boxes they package food in), cooking with aluminum pots/pans, and aluminum cans. The more acidic the foods or drinks are in the cans, the more aluminum they will leach out.

 

[Douglas Ek]

Aged garlic extract (or normal garlic if you dont mind bad breath) seem legit. Has been shown to remove heavy metals from the liver and increase heavy metals in the urine.

 

[TreasureVibe]

Is there a difference between L-malic acid and DL-malic acid for chelation and overall health?

 

[michael94]

In general, all chelators have a preference in terms of what they bind to (aluminum vs mercury, etc.), but they will always pull out some of the "good" minerals with the "bad" ones.

Also, since no one mentioned it, trying to get rid of accumulated aluminum won't do you any good if you do not remove the source of aluminum that is causing the accumulation. If anything, using a chelator will make you feel worse if you are trying to get rid of aluminum without removing the source.

Some people mentioned using silica...the BioSil supplement is expensive and drinking a liter of Fiji or Volvic water daily can get expensive as well. The cheapest source of silica is actually food-grade diatomaceous earth (DE). You can make your own "silica water" by mixing in 1 teaspoon of DE, letting it settle for 15-30 minutes, and then drinking the liquid (not the sediment at the bottom). Aiming for 1 liter of that daily should be enough silica.

Maybe our bodies have some use for aluminum? What about azomite? It is aluminosilicate so it has aluminum in it but maybe thats not a bad thing? Depends on what one thinks of the matter.

A-zo-mite



Azomite as a repellant

 

[TreasureVibe]

I really wonder, how can you exclude magnesium, calcium or potassium chelation from happening when taking plain malic acid?

 

[Fractality]

From Klinghardt Academy

on ionic footbath

Why did you purchase a CellSpa instead of the product in those videos? Do you think the CellSpa is just as effective despite it being a fraction of the cost?

 

[achillea]

They are talking about a unit that is for clinical use. We bought the cell spa because we did not want to invest so much and cannot believe only one manufacturer has figured it out. Dr Klinghardt has said that the AMD is the best but that others will work at different degrees of success. He is one that finds and promotes the best. If we were going to use it 5 days a week maybe 6 hours per day and charge $50 for 1/2 hour, no problem.
We see definite release. I was getting a cold and did it for 15 minutes and the cold disappeared. We are now combining it with cilantro.
Dr Klinghardt said he talked to Dr Pollack and he said that the ions in the bath are lining up and arranging the water in the body in a certain manner so that they get new marching orders, ie moving the toxins out.
We have no way of knowing if this is working but the water sure gets ugly brown and black. It is not the water that is turning itself brown or black

 

[Waynish]

They are talking about a unit that is for clinical use. We bought the cell spa because we did not want to invest so much and cannot believe only one manufacturer has figured it out. Dr Klinghardt has said that the AMD is the best but that others will work at different degrees of success. He is one that finds and promotes the best. If we were going to use it 5 days a week maybe 6 hours per day and charge $50 for 1/2 hour, no problem.
We see definite release. I was getting a cold and did it for 15 minutes and the cold disappeared. We are now combining it with cilantro.
Dr Klinghardt said he talked to Dr Pollack and he said that the ions in the bath are lining up and arranging the water in the body in a certain manner so that they get new marching orders, ie moving the toxins out.
We have no way of knowing if this is working but the water sure gets ugly brown and black. It is not the water that is turning itself brown or black

Testimonials are nice - but we have so many for so many different chelation methods... What would be nice is actual data showing, for example, the amount of aluminum chelated into a foot bath.

 

[Fractality]

They are talking about a unit that is for clinical use. We bought the cell spa because we did not want to invest so much and cannot believe only one manufacturer has figured it out. Dr Klinghardt has said that the AMD is the best but that others will work at different degrees of success. He is one that finds and promotes the best. If we were going to use it 5 days a week maybe 6 hours per day and charge $50 for 1/2 hour, no problem.
We see definite release. I was getting a cold and did it for 15 minutes and the cold disappeared. We are now combining it with cilantro.
Dr Klinghardt said he talked to Dr Pollack and he said that the ions in the bath are lining up and arranging the water in the body in a certain manner so that they get new marching orders, ie moving the toxins out.
We have no way of knowing if this is working but the water sure gets ugly brown and black. It is not the water that is turning itself brown or black

Which version of the CellSpa did you get? The "advance" or "pro"?

 

[Fractality]

This device seems to have potential compared to the common iron electrode devices.

https://seleq.net/Compare.html

Most comments, distributed regarding this topic, both pros and cons, are too harsh and biased. As usually, the truth is in the "golden middle" – there is some benefit, but generally not too high, and not for everyone.
The honest authors admit that the rusty-brown color is from the decay of the iron electrode, and that only nuances of the color are possible, depending on the patient's condition.

The examination of these devices, several years ago, leaded to the definite conclusion that they should be done in quite a different way.
Several facts were determined, as follows:

– The healthy body tissues are neutral or slightly alkaline, with more negative ("–") ions. An ill tissue usually has more "+" ions, it is more acid, sour. Many toxic and harmful for the human body substances are in the form of "+" ions in the bodily tissues too.
– Ion-detox systems are started initially as a clinical development, in search for more successful treatment of cancer. The idea is to make a water bath, rich of negative ions; in the beginning - for the whole body. Through the skin pores and Ion-channels in the cell-membranes, they will attract and suck out of the body the "unhealthy" positive ions. As a very cheep and easy to produce option, some of the iron oxide (rust) ions in the water are used. They are negative, strongly oxidizing, like (Fe2O3)2−.
– However rust ions are very active chemically and quickly react, or make complexes with the water molecules and hydroxyl ions. Several forms of the hydrated oxide of Fe(III) exist, like γ-Fe(O)OH. Many of them are "+"ions, which quickly reduces the "-"ions' quantity. There are also metal, compound, and other ions, some of them strongly "+", so the entire effectiveness is not high.
– Another good side is that most other ions in the water excite various ion fluxes inside the body, which stimulate many organs and processes. Similar good effect appears from the small electric voltages around the array in the water. Some "+"ions also can be useful in specific cases.

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– The main electric current is only inside the iron array, in order to decay it to rust. This is the reason of the rusty-brown color of the water – there is no rust in the human body!
– The wrist electrode is polarizing - it must be slightly positive, to stimulate the stream of the "ill" "+" ions within the body toward the basin. There are wrong claims for it – like sensing patient presence.
– A bad side is that with such high concentration, many of these heavy ions can penetrate trough the pores and harm the body; Including the possibility of severe allergic reactions.
– Although not so high, the main and universal benefit is increasing the alkalinity of bodily tissues, but this should be applied only until the optimum is reached. Reduction of metals and other toxic and harmful substances is also possible. But it's not so important, nor useful, to know the exact change or existence of particular elements or compounds in the water. Bio-chemistry still doesn't know enough how harmful or useful a number of elements and compounds are. Besides many of them can be either harmful, useful or neutral, depending on the particular patient, patient's condition, and many other factors.
– Many of these iron and other compounds can become slightly different, or some others can be created, depending on the sucked from the patient ions - i.e. on the patient's health, physical and mental condition. This explains the color nuances of the rusty water. But the coloration can depend also on the composition of the electrode, minerals and other stuff in the water, etc.
– Due to this low efficiency, and because of the strong pressure from the commercialized mainstream cancer "treatment", this research is abandoned. In reduced form, as foot-bath only, it became popular, because it's cheap and easy to use from everyone, including at home.

It is completely incomprehensible, why producers / traders do not learn and explain these simple facts, but many of them keep spreading the ignorant nonsense that the rust in the bath is because of the sucked from the patient toxins?!
And why most of the "scientific" comments are limited only to state that the water becomes rusty even without a patient in it, and to conclude without any merits that it is a scam.

Again: The rusty Ion-Detox foot-bath is not a scam, it's useful for many people (~25%), with very good results for some of them (~10%). But for most of the users the benefit is low, and adverse effects are possible (~0.03%).

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Based on all these, the new type instrument - ELPID, is designed in a quite different way. It uses only the noble hydroxyl ions (OH-), which are strongly "-", but not so active chemically, 8-10 times longer living than the rust-ions, completely harmless. To be still more effective, 2 flat electrodes (with suitable safe voltage), establish a flux of the "-" ions around the feet/hands. To further accelerate the healing, electric pulses with ultra low, body compliant frequency, are added. More details.
Briefly summarized, ELPID has much higher effectiveness by design, avoiding adverse effects! More over it is cheaper to use, because its electrodes are changed very rarely; Much better looking, as the water is clear all the time; And it is much smaller and lighter!