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Alternatives To Bag Breathing?

Discussion in 'CO2, Bag Breathing' started by TeaRex14, Dec 19, 2018.

  1. TeaRex14

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    Bag breathing seems like a huge chore for me, never really find the time to sit down and have a good 10 to 15 minute bag breathing session. When I have on the few occasions, I've always been disappointed with the results. I have a soda stream machine that comes with co2 tanks, technically it's suppose to be used to make carbonated water. Could you possibly blow some co2 (from the tank) into a bag or balloon and breath it in? It would seem like a more concentrated dose of co2, rather then re-breathing through a bag.
     
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    If you want something you can do without equipment, you can learn/practice various reduced/calmed etc breathing techniques or exercises to retain CO2. I liked 'Shut your Mouth' by McKeown, and info based on Buteyko Method, eg on normalbreathing.com, or some of the yoga-style approaches.
    Or one of those altitude masks (I haven't tried one).
    There are threads describing what some people have tried.
     
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    wearing a surgical mask
     
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    Thanks, I'll look into Buteyko and surgical masks.
     
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    Surgical masks don't seem to work the same because you can kind of breathe air through them.
     
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    Probably not the cheapest route to take, but I'm wondering how much CO2 tanks cost. I can't possibly think of a more efficient way then to just breathe in some CO2 right from a tank, diluted with some oxygen of course.
     
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    Thought I would give a brief update. I decided to get larger sized brown paper bags, the ones that are big enough to put groceries in and whatnot. Instead of just breathing into the bag I put the bag over my entire head and breathed normally for a few minutes. Anecdotally, I think this gave me better results then the normal way. I got warm feeling and breathed much easier.
     
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    sounds great. I like that idea.
     
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    airtight seal or just placed it over?
     
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    Surgical mask. I use it while driving to school. Take care to breath calmly and not force your breath and make sure it's tight fitting. Takes 20 min before the effects set in vs the few minutes a paper bag takes.
     
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    Hold your breath for 1.5 minutes
     
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    I just place the bag over my head, then tilt my head upwards as if I'm looking up into the sky. The back of my head presses against one side of the bag, while my chin presses against the other side, creating a pseudo seal so to speak. There's enough of a "seal" that when I breathe in the bag starts to crumble inward.
     
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    It's pretty good, definitely the easiest way I've done it thus far. Doing it this way is also the only time that bag breathing has actually made me warmer (presumably from the CO2 increase). After doing it, I also breathe much more normally. Historically I've always been sort of a heavy breather.

    I might experiment with the breathing less method sometime. People swear by it, but seems intense for me, lol. I don't want it to stress me out, kind of defeat the purpose in a way.
     
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    Sodium Bicarbonate can increase CO2 levels, as can simply going to higher elevations.

    Also, reduce anxiety and try not to hyperventilate.
     
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    How much baking soda do you typically take to achieve this? Isn't the alkalizing effects of sodium bicarbonate a problem?
     
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    I typically take a teaspoon, or half a teaspoon. Haven’t noticed any problems with alkalinization. I do typically take with lemon juice or orange juice though, which are acidic.
     
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