Alternative To Bag Breathing

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find yourself a porous cloth bag, put it over your head, seal as best you can around your shoulders and neck, and breathe. Enjoy!
 
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find yourself a porous cloth bag, put it over your head, seal as best you can around your shoulders and neck, and breathe. Enjoy!

A porous cloth bag?! Isn’t the paper bag the standard? (I’m frustrated because I don’t have any paper bags for bad breathing!)
 

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Donnay Detoxicology LLC:

Henderson was genius, but Haldane even more, He countered Henderson's Carbetha rescue gas mixture (of 5% CO2 and oxygen) with simpler and just as effective device that mixed CO2 from tank with room air , which he called Carbogen and which a company called Siebe Gorman made from 1920s. US FDA just approved modern version of CO2+O2 mixing board last year to rescue people with ARDS or CO poisoning, called the ClearMate(TM) from Thornhill Medical in Canada, but it costs $15,000 and does not yet have a US distributor. Without explanation, the company is not promoting this for COVID-19, however, and is instead promoting a closed loop ventilator it also makes.

Fortunately for anyone with COVIDs at home or in hospital, there are lots of DIY ways to increase your breathing volume by reflex with no conscious effort. They all involve rebreathing the last of your exhaled breath, which has high enough CO2 (about 4%, which is 100 times more than we typically inhale) to trigger carotid chemoreceptor reflex to exhale more per minute in (futile) effort to lower it. I posted a video with some of these "automatic" rescue masks that anyone can make and use anywhere: Even easier is than any mask, however, is just to lie prone with your head turned to one side and then bend your arm on that side so the crook of your elbow is over your nose and mouth.
 
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Ray, from a 2008 interview:

Yes, if you breath in a paper bag, it's the same thing as voluntarily holding your breath. Swimming under water will do the same thing. Anytime you hold your breath or breathe in a paper bag or force yourself to stay under water for as long as you can stand: That is raising the carbon dioxide and sort of acting as a sedative on your nervous system, so you stop the excited adrenalin-driven over-ventilation, and you can gradually train yourself with a paper bag or swimming under water or just making the deliberate effort not to breathe so much.
 
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The holding breath on exhale for 15-30 seconds is a common freediving breath technique.
 
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