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After 5.5 Years, I Finally Started Losing Weight. Key Has Been Strictness

Discussion in 'Rant or Rave' started by Velve921, Mar 17, 2020.

  1. Velve921

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    So, I know many people have been looking for more stories and understandings of weight loss through these ideas. I’ll share mine and take it for what’s worth.

    6 years ago I was doing the following:

    Paleo
    Fasting
    High Lactic Acid Weight Lifting
    Consumed under 2000 calories a day
    Extremely low carb, high phosphate from meat, no calcium, high pufa.

    Weighed 178lbs at 7-8% body fat. Veins on my lower abs.
    Urinating 70x a day.

    Once I started following Peat’s ideas;

    Started putting on fat and muscle like crazy. 6 months ago got up to 250lbs.

    I have lost 25lbs in the past 6 months and still dropping. At 16.75% body fat.

    My current regimen:

    Gelatin
    Milk
    Ice cream
    Cheese
    Coconut oil
    OJ
    Coffee
    Sugar
    Dark chocolate
    Beef Liver
    Mushrooms
    No alcohol

    Now, initially when I was working my way up to 250lbs, I was strict but I didn’t realize how strict I had to be. I would still have high phosphate meals 2x per week, cheat/restaurant meal 1x per week.

    Once I became as strict to a T; meaning:

    Ca:p ratio is always higher ca:p.
    No cheat meals.

    Fat has been coming off very steadily.

    And here’s another interesting aspect, I have not worked out in 6 years. Currently, I stretch 1-2x per day for 3-5 minutes a piece.

    Another interesting part, I am eating 4500 calories a day. 6 months ago I was at 3000-3500. And losing weight.

    What I’ve found from all of this? For me personally, I’ve had to be strict in order to see my metabolic rate truly ramp.

    When I heard @haidut say, “It may take time to find your perfect diet”, I now understand that more. I am still always ratcheting up as I find my perfect diet and lifestyle.

    For people that are stuck, you may find that strictness could be more key that initially interpreted. For people that have been at it for many year like myself, go easy on yourself if you have not found the results you’ve wanted quite yet. This can be a longer process that initially interpreted.

    I hope everyone is doing well.
     
  2. stpa92

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    Can you please post a picture of what you look like? 225lbs 17% means you have 186 lbs of LBM, more than most Men's Physique pros who compete in the Olympia, and those guys are juiced to the gills

    Unless you're 6'8, I'm having a tough time wrapping my mind around someone who not only doesn't take steroids, but who doesn't even exercise, having that much mass
     
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    For example, here is Sadik Hadzovic at 6'0 230lbs around 15% body fat

    You're almost this size?
     

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    Well yeah, I was gonna ask where he gets those body fat percentages, down to two decimal points. Heh.

    Unless it's with Dexa scan, then it's pretty shaky. My super duper 5-star rated expensive scale tells me i'm 18% fat, and have excessive visceral fat on top of that.20200229_150733.jpg

    Screenshot_20200317-160611_EufyLife.jpg
     
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    Those visceral fat scanners seem sketchy. I don’t think they differentiate between true adipose tissue and fecal matter high in fat. Perhaps you just eat a lot and you’re clogged up.

    when you look at all of the carnivores that have watery diarrhea and all drop 10-15lbs within weeks, it sounds like what happens is they’re expelling all of that “visceral fat”. Because there’s no exogenous opioids such as starches, gluten, casein... that clog everything up
     
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    how much kcal, protein, carbs and fat did you eat in this period?

    you gained in six month 8% bodyfat?
     
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    Velve921

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    Maybe I did not explain it right. My apologies.

    178-250lbs took 5.5 years. What I was trying to say is that I finally got to a point where I found a place where my body started leaning down after 5.5 years. Which was 6 months ago.

    6 months later (now); I've lost 25lbs.

    Roughly around:

    350-400 carbs
    150-200 fat
    150-175 protein
     
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    Velve921

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    Thanks for the feedback. I am going by Poliquin's Biosignature model for body fat. I am not interested in posting pictures just by personal preference. My body fat and muscle mass very well could be off. That was not the point of my post was discuss specific body fats and muscle mass.

    I was just sharing a part of my journey of what I've found to be indicative of my weight loss because I know so many people have inquired about this over the years.

    I can tell you this... and I know it's crazy because everybody continues to tell me this...

    1. I have been losing weight without exercise or lactic acid training on this type of diet. In previous years I was just getting bigger and adding more fat. For some reason starting 6 months ago I started losing weight; mainly fat. It is definitely out of the ordinary.

    2. When I tell people I weigh 225lbs; everybody thinks I look 190. I don't look massive like a body builder.
     
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    thank you for your input. Congrats to figuring out your N=1. curious why no eggs?
     
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    Have you seen any changes on your hair?
     
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    186lbs is more than most men who compete in Olympia?? I dont think you did your math quite right. Most Bodybuilders who are competitive are at least 225 lbs at competition, and some are up to 275lbs. Considering the target is <5% bodyfat, that means even the lightest contenders at Olympia are AT LEAST 210 lbs of lean body mass.
     
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    What do you mean by exogenous opioids being starches?
     
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    Nice work!
     
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    Thanks!

    I’ve used eggs in the past. However, for the price I pay for eggs, I found the response wasn’t worth the financial burden.

    So between liver, milk, and my other foods, I find this suffices.
     
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    reread my post, I said “Mens Physique pros” not men’s bodybuilding
     
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    What's a CRON-o-meter screenshot (or manual entry of quantities) of a typical day? What's your estimated calorie needs given height, weight, and body fat (ie, how much above maintenance while not gaining)? Body temperature? Do you feel hot?
     
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    I have found strictness to also be essential to losing and keeping weight off.
    After many experimentation's to find a sustainable way of eating as close to Dr Peat
    recommendations as possible, I have finally figured out with certainty it was the milk causing bloating.
    I cut that out, and am now only eating cottage cheese and orange juice. The weight/bloat has all dropped within a few weeks.
    I also eat liver once a week and I have a calcium supplement.

    I decided to eat 2 eggs the other day, just regular
    store bought eggs, for some cholesterol. That messed me up for the next
    few days....so no more eggs for me.

    My metabolism must be so messed up it cant handle
    one hiccup, or maybe its the environmental stress of today's living (wifi, smog, computer screen, food manufacturing, not much sun).

    I was also drinking 5-6 cups of coffee per day, the more the better I thought. I decided to experiment and cut down to just one
    cup in the morning...wow, I actually feel more alert and able to think clearer.

    I think the foods Dr Peat recommends are good for you, but the manufacturing process
    of today messes them up...maybe foods from 30 years ago were better than
    even organic foods of today.
     
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