Adolf Hitler Was Gay

[Tristan Loscha]

I do not know or care if Hitler was gay, unfortunately he had moral retardation/feeblemindedness.

 

[postman]

No. Never was. I am saying leave it up to a group of people who have the time and resources to do it right. Instead of Hitler fanboys. It was bad or worse. Moving on.

That's an authoritarian position, expert worship.

Racism is used to justify supremacist/ eugenist crimes. This one is different and inferior. The idea of different human races was created by supremacists/ eugenicists.

Who created and developed the term australoid? They believe that australoids were a negroid subtype.
The roman empire would be considered now mullato and negroid. Russian kings were blacks. The greek empire was black/ mullato. Popes were black/ mullato.
Admixture occurs, look at currently native americans from south to north.
Chinese eyes, face shape, nose can all be encountered in one African tribe. How much are we different?
How much are we different to be considered different races?
What features make one different from the other?
@TheSir

Lamarck

Lmao. Mozart was a black man. So was George Washington. Hitler was black! They've been lying about this the whole time!!1!

 

[michael94]

"So you believe in the blood fountains?"

I do, why shouldn't I?
"the "fountains" is a red/black liquid, pouring out of the
shallow mass graves due to the influence of decomposition and subsequent gas
leakage, which let the partially liquefied bodymass come to the surface."

Indeed, investigators found corpses and bodyparts in various locations in germany and annexed regions, what is the issue.

The issue is that theres no physical evidence for the systematic extermination of Jews, the eye witness accounts are ridiculous and often conflicting, there has not been a good response to Germar Rudolfs report on the Chemistry of the alleged Gas chambers at Auschwitz, and its illegal to question any of this in most of Europe.

At Auschwitz alone its claimed around 1 million Jews were killed in 2-3 years. To think that this could be done and we would find no traces of it besides eye witness accounts is insane. Finding "some corpses" is not traces of this. 1 million bodies do not just vanish into thin air when you burn them in open pyres. The Holocaust story had to ditch the idea that they were all cremated after it was shown that it was not close to possible in the timeframe given.

For all the "evils of Fascism", the way the Holocaust subject is treated seems pretty authoritarian and inflexible to me. But Ray Peat would rather engage in revisionist history about Stalin. God forbid anyone ever stand up for Germany

 

[managing]

The issue is that theres no physical evidence for the systematic extermination of Jews, the eye witness accounts are ridiculous and often conflicting, there has not been a good response to Germar Rudolfs report on the Chemistry of the alleged Gas chambers at Auschwitz, and its illegal to question any of this in most of Europe.

At Auschwitz alone its claimed around 1 million Jews were killed in 2-3 years. To think that this could be done and we would find no traces of it besides eye witness accounts is insane. Finding "some corpses" is not traces of this. 1 million bodies do not just vanish into thin air when you burn them in open pyres. The Holocaust story had to ditch the idea that they were all cremated after it was shown that it was not close to possible in the timeframe given.

For all the "evils of Fascism", the way the Holocaust subject is treated seems pretty authoritarian and inflexible to me. But Ray Peat would rather engage in revisionist history about Stalin. God forbid anyone ever stand up for Germany

No German would ask Ray Peat or anybody else to stand up for them. The vast majority of Germans are mortified by what their forebears did. They consider it a duty to ensure it never happens again, but they feel little to no personal shame. After all, they had nothing to do with it. In your fantasy perhaps Hitler and his commanders are victims of lies, but modern Germans do not bear that cross.

Second, your denials are full of claims that are simply willful fabrications--and not even good ones.

Your denials are fantasies. Really macabre fantasies.

Auschwitz-Birkenau Crematoria: Civilian Ovens Comparison | Holocaust Denial on Trial
Operation Reinhard Mass Cremation: Bone Crushing | Holocaust Denial on Trial

 

[michael94]

Auschwitz-Birkenau Crematoria: Civilian Ovens Comparison | Holocaust Denial on Trial
Operation Reinhard Mass Cremation: Bone Crushing | Holocaust Denial on Trial

In the Leuchter Report, Holocaust denier Fred Leuchter theorized that, since a civilian crematorium oven can cremate one body in 1.25 hours, or 19.2 bodies in 24 hours, only 85,092 bodies could have been cremated in Auschwitz-Birkenau from late 1941 to late 1944.[1]

The facts are:

In Auschwitz-Birkenau, the authorities had no respect for the dead and did not abide by civilian rules of cremation. They burned multiple bodies at once and the process was continuous. It is a false comparison to equate the cremations at Auschwitz-Birkenau with civilian crematoria.

Stuffing multiple bodies into a cremation oven would make the process much slower and require more fuel. Very logarithmic efficiency increase... If you put three bodies in a cremation oven you wont be burning bodies 3x as fast or anywhere close.

Anyways modern Holocaust historians have moved on from cremation ovens, the official claim is about open cremation pits which are even less efficient than cremation ovens and leave more traces of the bodies. plus the enormous amounts of fuel required is never accounted for. Even logically it doesnt make sense that they would dedicate so many resources.

Also you will notice that again this is all based on the testimony of Jewish prisoners. The Sonderkommando were Jewish prisoners forced to work in the genocide process... according to the official story. Not a lot of people know that detail.

 

[michael94]

Sonderkommando Filip Müller has another testimony of note. Tell me if you believe this one Managing

A Sonderkommando recalls an experience in Auschwitz (1945)

The atmosphere in the dimly lit gas chamber was tense and depressing. Death had come menacingly close. It was only minutes away. No memory, no trace of any of us would remain. Once more people embraced. Parents were hugging their children so violently that it almost broke my heart. Suddenly a few girls, naked and in the full bloom of youth, came up to me. They stood in front of me without a word, gazing at me deep in thought and shaking their heads uncomprehendingly. At last one of them plucked up courage and spoke to me: “We understand that you have chosen to die with us of your own free will, and we have come to tell you that we think your decision pointless: for it helps no one.” She went on: “We must die, but you still have a chance to save your life. You have to return to the camp, and tell everybody about our last hours,” she commanded. “You have to explain to them that they must free themselves from any illusions. They ought to fight, that’s better than dying here helplessly. It’ll be easier for them since they have no children. As for you, perhaps you’ll survive this terrible tragedy and then you must tell everybody what happened to you. One more thing,” she went on, “you can do me one last favour: this gold chain around my neck: when I’m dead, take it off and give it to my boyfriend Sasha. He works in the bakery. Remember me to him. Say ‘love from Yana.’ When it’s all over, you’ll find me here.” She pointed at a place next to the concrete pillar where I was standing. Those were her last words.

I was surprised and strangely moved by her cool and calm detachment in the face of death, and also by her sweetness. Before I could make an answer to her spirited speech, the girls took hold of me and dragged me protesting to the door of the gas chamber. There they gave me a last push which made me land bang in the middle of the group of SS men. Kurschuss was the first to recognise me and at once set about me with his truncheon. I fell to the floor, stood up and was knocked down by a blow from his fist. As I stood on my feet for the third time or fourth time, Kurschuss yelled at me: “You bloody s**t, get it into your stupid head: we decide how long you stay alive and when you die, and not you. Now piss off to the ovens!” Then he socked me viciously in the face so that I reeled against the lift door.”

So Filip tried to commit suicide in the gas chamber and two young girls in "the full bloom of youth" kicked him out of the gas chamber which apparently wasnt secured despite all the panic of imminent death. So these girls not only knew where the exit was but were able to push Filip out of it with no second thoughts.

 

[managing]

Stuffing multiple bodies into a cremation oven would make the process much slower and require more fuel. Very logarithmic efficiency increase... If you put three bodies in a cremation oven you wont be burning bodies 3x as fast or anywhere close.

Anyways modern Holocaust historians have moved on from cremation ovens, the official claim is about open cremation pits which are even less efficient than cremation ovens and leave more traces of the bodies. plus the enormous amounts of fuel required is never accounted for. Even logically it doesnt make sense that they would dedicate so many resources.

Also you will notice that again this is all based on the testimony of Jewish prisoners. The Sonderkommando were Jewish prisoners forced to work in the genocide process... according to the official story. Not a lot of people know that detail.

LOL. You apply groundless reasoning. No arguing with that. Literally.

What is your endgame. Suppose you miraculously convinced the world that your random musings on physics trump the massive historical record. The nazis were cuddly idealists who never hurt a fly. Victims of a horrible conspiracy by FDR, Churchill and Stalin. I suppose in your fantasy the Jews are the puppet masters of the Allies. So lets throw that in.

Then what? What would you want to happen because of your incredible powers of reason?

And don't say "for people to know the truth". You can't be that big of a coward.

 

[Peater]

Sonderkommando Filip Müller has another testimony of note. Tell me if you believe this one Managing

A Sonderkommando recalls an experience in Auschwitz (1945)


So Filip tried to commit suicide in the gas chamber and two young girls in "the full bloom of youth" kicked him out of the gas chamber which apparently wasnt secured despite all the panic of imminent death. So these girls not only knew where the exit was but were able to push Filip out of it with no second thoughts.

 

[michael94]

suppose you miraculously convinced the world that your random musings on physics trump the massive historical record.

Thats the point of contention. There isnt a massive historical record, at least not of systematic murder of just less than 6 million Jews in camps in modern day Poland from 1941-1945. What we do have on record are confessions ( notably Rudolf Hoess ) and eye witness accounts. But people can lie and be coerced into lying.

There is an understanding that Holocaust eye witness testimony is just confirming the physical evidence, BUT ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Physical evidence ( and importantly lack of ) is pidgeon holed into fitting the testimony. The physical evidence is actually against mass extermination, so there is plenty reason we should be able to doubt the witnesses regardless of motivations.

 

[managing]

Thats the point of contention. There isnt a massive historical record, at least not of systematic murder of just less than 6 million Jews in camps in modern day Poland from 1941-1945. What we do have on record are confessions ( notably Rudolf Hoess ) and eye witness accounts. But people can lie and be coerced into lying.

There is an understanding that Holocaust eye witness testimony is just confirming the physical evidence, BUT ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. Physical evidence ( and importantly lack of ) is pidgeon holed into fitting the testimony. The physical evidence is actually against mass extermination, so there is plenty reason we should be able to doubt the witnesses regardless of motivations.

I didn't think you would have the courage to answer the question. Looks like I was right.

 

[pro marker]

the ammount of bull**** rumored about hitler is so ridicilous i cant help but take the nazis side any time anything is said about them. and i hate fascism.

in 9th grade they took us to some "concentration camps" and told us about how they killed and tortured the jews and made human soap and ampshades out of them. then they took us into a shower and said this is where they got gassed. when i questioned them about using a wooden door to seal out lethal gas i was remoed from the group and had to wait in the bus.

did you guys know he also ate eva´s poop? also he was actually black but had the micheal jackson disease so no one ever knew. when he was alone he used to dress up as a trap and wear striped thigh highs and take pictures with his light up keyboard. i know this because they said so in the new york times.

 

[michael94]

I didn't think you would have the courage to answer the question. Looks like I was right.

You were attempting to derail the discussion and delegitimize just discussing the Holocaust with your question. I don’t think NS Germany was the devil it has been made out to be and have not hid that.

 

[managing]

You were attempting to derail the discussion and delegitimize just discussing the Holocaust with your question. I don’t think NS Germany was the devil it has been made out to be and have not hid that.

And don't have the courage to admit why you want people to believe you.

 

[michael94]

And don't have the courage to admit why you want people to believe you.

Because I want to live in a society like that? This is not a mystery. The Third Reich is portrayed as a war mongering genocidal regime, obviously anyone who believes in that will rightfully cringe anytime Hitler is mentioned positively. But I don’t agree with that premise

 

[Whichway?]

LOL. You apply groundless reasoning. No arguing with that. Literally.

What is your endgame. Suppose you miraculously convinced the world that your random musings on physics trump the massive historical record. The nazis were cuddly idealists who never hurt a fly. Victims of a horrible conspiracy by FDR, Churchill and Stalin. I suppose in your fantasy the Jews are the puppet masters of the Allies. So lets throw that in.

Then what? What would you want to happen because of your incredible powers of reason?

And don't say "for people to know the truth". You can't be that big of a coward.

The “truth” doesn’t require legislation so that people cannot talk about it without having their lives destroyed and being imprisoned.

If the evidence was so obvious it wouldn’t need all this protection from people digging into the facts of it, nor having a discussion about it.

 

[MatheusPN]

Lmao. Mozart was a black man. So was George Washington. Hitler was black! They've been lying about this the whole time!!1!

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Hitler would have nightmares in fear of it.

To all:
Its a very controversial topic. So lets clarify somethings.
First, this topic for me, wouldn't be so interesting if it wasn't for fascists or thanks to our media starting to be more racialist here in Brazil.
So having some knowledge is good to combat fascist and supremacist absurdity.

About Russia, unfortunately, I don't have much info about it, looking at the Orthodox Church art, at the history of invasions, at emigrations, and some purposeful destruction of genuine art and then creating another to distort the truth, as was done by the British empire. We can form some hypothesis.

At that topic, here at least is better to stay at the scientific evidence. Like ancient skulls found in Europe and America. And as we know genetics isnt everything as most believe.

 

[LUH 3417]

So you believe in the blood fountains? How come no mass graves that can account for Holocaust claims have been found? If you believe they were all burned in mass open pyres why do we not find fragments of the millions of bodies since open pyres do not come close to eliminating all traces of the corpse? and open pyres are not even efficient?


child molestation?

"The nazis loved meth and were closet gays. They also loved Tibet and child molestation as their fake gurus in Tibetan Buddhism considered girls younger than 12 useless."

Your masters masters

On a numerological basis twelve- or sixteen-year-old girls are preferred. Only when none can be found does Tsongkhapa recommend the use of a twenty-year-old. There is also a table of correspondences between the various ages and the elements and senses: an 11-year-old represents the air, a 12-year-old fire, a 13-year-old water, a 14-year-old earth, a15-year-old sound, a 16-year-old the sense of touch, a 17-year-old taste, an 18-year-old shape or form, and a 20-year-old the sense of smell (Naropa, 1994, p. 189).

The Shadow of the Dalai Lama – Part I – 3

 

[michael94]

Your masters masters

On a numerological basis twelve- or sixteen-year-old girls are preferred. Only when none can be found does Tsongkhapa recommend the use of a twenty-year-old. There is also a table of correspondences between the various ages and the elements and senses: an 11-year-old represents the air, a 12-year-old fire, a 13-year-old water, a 14-year-old earth, a15-year-old sound, a 16-year-old the sense of touch, a 17-year-old taste, an 18-year-old shape or form, and a 20-year-old the sense of smell (Naropa, 1994, p. 189).

The Shadow of the Dalai Lama – Part I – 3

Ok but thats Tibetan monks being abusive, I dont think Nazis were interested in Tibet/Buddhism for those reasons.

 

[LUH 3417]

Ok but thats Tibetan monks being abusive, I dont think Nazis were interested in Tibet/Buddhism for those reasons.

What do you think was the source of their interest?

 

[michael94]

What do you think was the source of their interest?

They both used the Swastika and had connections to Ancient India ( albeit thousands of years of separation ). The Ahnenerbe also sent researchers to South America.