Frankdee20
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You going to report me for anti gay propaganda now ? WTF
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Framed.
No way. By "that people" I meant the kind of psychiatrists from APA who created the DSM. Either heteros or homos I don't care. They were probably lobbied to hell by pharma companies.Are you saying this because the board were homosexual? Probably serial killers too.....mmmm
What did I say that offended you as a gay man ?
No way. By "that people" I meant the kind of psychiatrists from APA who created the DSM. Either heteros or homos I don't care. They were probably lobbied to hell by pharma companies.
I guess you are joking... sorry I don't get it!Don’t matter what way you swinging when money is involved,gay for pay you are then.....
With all the recommendations on here you could turn,nev
What did I say that aroused your poor attempt at sarcasm ? Is this demographic off limits from scrutiny too ?
So clearly some people on this thread aren’t open to dialogue, because that’s automatically interpreted as bias, and anti whatever agenda. I actually wanted to get into this a little, and the history of homosexuality viewed in a negative light, going back to Freud. But some people on here are too quick to play either the anti Semite card, or homophobic card. Frankly, that’s a shame, and isn’t fair. This labeling prevents people from chiming in, because it’s deemed a very sensitive subject.
I don't know, if I remember correctly he's the one who made a thread on a new hypothetical idealabs product called "homoban", if that was a joke too then I never got it lol.
About the study, it looks very poor, they basically state body hair is only caused by dht and then go on to measure body hair levels to come to the conclusion gay men have more dht (because they have more hair). Check what "bears" from the gay "community look like and tell me they are high dht low estrogens.
There are some interesting references in the study:
Further studies on sex hormones in male homosexuals. - PubMed - NCBI
The relation between sexual orientation and penile size. - PubMed - NCBI
They make a reference to this book as well:
The Homosexual Matrix - Wikipedia
Ray said estrogen has a masculinizing effect in early development of humans, perhaps too much 5ar activity to start with means not enough estrogens? Looking at bears and how overweight individuals may have higher 5ar activity (ever seen the beard of many fat guys?), I'd say it's possible they are highly estrogenic with the body using dht to compensate for that. Or I could rephrase that and say that high aromatase and 5ar activity at the same time may be the cause here, so 5ar-activity alone is not enough of a marker. An other possibility is one of the enzymes that makes androsterone isn't working properly (given the study such_saturation linked to).
Uneducated guy making wild guesses.
Androsterone - Androgenic, Anti-estrogenic, Thyromimetic Neurosteroid
I remember he said that while talking about sex drive, not sure he ever mentioned sexual orientation (at least I did not catch it).I remember that Gbolduev guy had claimed that estrogen was needed to "sensitize" DHT or else it would have little to no effect. He didn't bring in any studies or evidence to support his statements though, just his own observations.
I remember he said that while talking about sex drive, not sure he ever mentioned sexual orientation (at least I did not catch it).