A Proposed Anabolic Mechanism Of Tribulus Terrestris (TT)

[Lokzo]

Meh. I’ve spent some money on a order now. I did find their incredible range of products a bit suspect. The thing is,
I know what a top quality cistanche extract does for me (libido enhancing and very horny inducing), which I have previously purchased from this company: Pine Pollen Powder, Extracts, and Tinctures | RAW Forest Foods

Usually if a herbal company has real good stuff they specialise in just a few products. Like this one: Buy Reishi Extract He Shou Wu Cordyceps & More | Hyperion Herbs

These are the main two I’ve had success with.

So if badmonkeybotanicals ciatanche stacks up against the extract from rawforestfoods, I will know that I’m dealing with good stuff.

Haidut mentioned he was having success with the tribalus from a few posts and that’s why I’ve purchased from them (along with some cistanche to play with).

Oh well, I’ll give it a try at least.

Man, Cistanche is the one of the most androgenic herbs I've ever used. It's super potent at increasing libido and feels ultra dopaminergic. I prefer using a different vendor though.

 

[Lokzo]

The BadMonkeysBotanicals website has been down for a couple of days now. Seems the website has disappeared without a trace? I was going to get some more of this tribulus. Anyone know what is going on? Their email customer service link has also gone dead. I have emailed them and I now get a bounced back ‘undelivered’ email.

These guys have a terrible customer service reputation. I suppose things like this don’t exactly help.

Does anyone know of any other online sources for high quality tribulus, with high potency active compounds? I was looking to buy quite soon.

They are extremely dodgy. They never responded to my email and my order which was well over $70USD - completely GONE.

 

[TripleOG]

What email are you using? The customer service one barely gets replies. Use the shipping email. Also try calling.

Good thing I stocked up when I did.

 

[RobertJM]

Badmonkey’s have quit monkeying around with all their monkey business and the website is now back!

 

[Ron J]

@haidut
I'm cutting and on an anti-gyno protocol; do you think TT will help?

 

[haidut]

@haidut
I'm cutting and on an anti-gyno protocol; do you think TT will help?

I would not mix TT with steroids, I think it can suppress adrenals too much and maybe even cause kidney issues when combined. On its own it does not seem to have these risks.

 

[Cameron]

@haidut did you have good results

 

[haidut]

@haidut did you have good results

Yes, a 17% increase in DHEA and 47% increase in DHT. My DHT again went above the upper limit of normal and my doctor freaked out again. So, TT definitely works for me and I want to do a longer course than just 4 weeks but I have to find a way to get tested without my PCP getting copy of the results.

 

[Risingfire]

Yes, a 17% increase in DHEA and 47% increase in DHT. My DHT again went above the upper limit of normal and my doctor freaked out again. So, TT definitely works for me and I want to do a longer course than just 4 weeks but I have to find a way to get tested without my PCP getting copy of the results.

Did you experience a change in body composition? Any noticeable fat loss?

 

[Tbone107]

I would not mix TT with steroids, I think it can suppress adrenals too much and maybe even cause kidney issues when combined. On its own it does not seem to have these risks.

Do you think low dose pansterone (~4 drops daily) and TT should not be used in conjunction?

 

[Ron J]

I would not mix TT with steroids, I think it can suppress adrenals too much and maybe even cause kidney issues when combined. On its own it does not seem to have these risks.

Is there a study that insinuates that? You've mentioned that DHEA combined with androgens is better, and TT's saponins do not seem to convert into estrogen, so I assumed that I may get some body composition benefits, along with lower cortisol/prolactin during my cut. And thank you.

 

[jack_zen]

Yes, a 17% increase in DHEA and 47% increase in DHT. My DHT again went above the upper limit of normal and my doctor freaked out again. So, TT definitely works for me and I want to do a longer course than just 4 weeks but I have to find a way to get tested without my PCP getting copy of the results.

any change in Estrogen?

if someone has some kind of adrenal fatigue / low cortisol would you think Tribulus is a good thing to take or would it lower cortisol even more?

 

[Frankdee20]

Besides the Badmonkey brand, any others people recommend ? There’s that Tribestan brand that is packaged like a pharmaceutical. It has a lot of excipients though.

 

[haidut]

any change in Estrogen?

if someone has some kind of adrenal fatigue / low cortisol would you think Tribulus is a good thing to take or would it lower cortisol even more?

No change in estrone sulfate (E1S) and prolactin dropped by 2 points from 8.7 to 6.4. I do not usually check estradiol or estrone because they do not represent well tissue estrogen or total estrogenic load.

 

[haidut]

Is there a study that insinuates that? You've mentioned that DHEA combined with androgens is better, and TT's saponins do not seem to convert into estrogen, so I assumed that I may get some body composition benefits, along with lower cortisol/prolactin during my cut. And thank you.

No, just personal observation and reports from others. When combining higher doses TT with any steroid (even pregnenolone) people report pain in their adrenals, which is hardly a good sign.

 

[haidut]

Do you think low dose pansterone (~4 drops daily) and TT should not be used in conjunction?

Just 4 drops is probably OK but I would watch out for pain in the adrenals and if such develops then drop the TT or Pansterone.

 

[haidut]

Did you experience a change in body composition? Any noticeable fat loss?

My midsection shrunk but any extra weight I carry is actually mostly water/puffiness when under stress, so my weight can vary quite a bit depending on cortisol levels, without that indicating much fat loss/gain.

 

[Tbone107]

Just 4 drops is probably OK but I would watch out for pain in the adrenals and if such develops then drop the TT or Pansterone.

What would the pain feel like hypothetically? I feel much better with the combination of the two from an androgen standpoint than I do by themselves. I’ve been doing them together for ~8 weeks and feel the best I probably ever have from a feel good/androgen standpoint.

 

[haidut]

What would the pain feel like hypothetically? I feel much better with the combination of the two from an androgen standpoint than I do by themselves. I’ve been doing them together for ~8 weeks and feel the best I probably ever have from a feel good/androgen standpoint.

Like dull or pulsating pain just below one or both sides of the chest cage.

 

[jack_zen]

do you think TT lowers already too low cortisol even more @haidut ?