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Interesting article after hearing Peat speak with Danny Roddy and Haidut about the ideal environment being the womb for the human development.
Unfortunately it looks like no more wombs going forward, instead the new ideal environment is a glass jar, it’s kind of like that world economic forum add, you won’t own anything and you will be happy, you will be born in a glass jar and be happy.
They still had to use blood serum from the umbilical cord and pump oxygen in, they use the covid ventilators as an analogy, amazing.
Peat also spoke about oxygens effect in the body in said interview so the above doesn’t sound too good at the most important development stages.
This is another reason why the ruling class don’t care about the current human population, they believe we can make new ideal humans, less troublesome, it’s all starting to get nazi like again.
They also bizarrely see a "market" for babies for gays, 2 men can create the sperm and egg via stem cells.
The gloves are off in the world of cloning, China have been doing it for a long time so the west believes it has to keep up, the discussion around ethics will be nothing more than tokenism going forward, for show.
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The photographs alone tell a fantastic story—a mouse embryo, complete with beating heart cells, a head, and the beginning of limbs, alive and growing in a glass jar.
According to a scientific group in Israel, which took the picture, the researchers have grown mice in an artificial womb for as long as 11 or 12 days, about half the animal’s natural gestation period.
It’s record for development of a mammal outside the womb, and according to the research team, human embryos could be next—raising huge new ethical questions.
“This sets the stage for other species,” says Jacob Hanna, a developmental biologist at the Weizmann Institute of Science, who led the research team. “I hope that it will allow scientists to grow human embryos until week five.”
Growing human embryos in the lab for that long, deep into the first trimester, would put science on a collision course with the abortion debate. Hanna believes lab-grown embryos could be a research substitute for tissue derived from abortions, and possibly a source of tissue for medical treatments as well.
The mouse embryos only died after they became too large for the oxygen to diffuse through them, since they lack the natural blood supply a placenta could provide.
The work creates a scientific window onto the early embryo, which is normally hidden inside the uterus. In a publication today in the journal Nature, the Israeli team describes a series of experiments in which they added toxins, dyes, viruses, and human cells to the developing embryonic mice, all to study what would occur.
“It’s a tour de force—very, very impressive,” says Alfonso Martinez Arias, a developmental biologist and stem cell researcher based at Pompeu Fabra University in Spain, who was not involved in the research.
“That forces the oxygen into the cells,” he says. “Then the patient is much happier. You can see it has a blood system and all the major organ systems are working.”
I do understand the difficulties. I understand. You are entering the domain of abortions,” says Hanna. However, he says he can rationalize such experiments because researchers already study five-day-old human embryos from IVF clinics, which are also destroyed in that process.
“So I would advocate growing it until day 40 and then disposing of it,” says Hanna. “Instead of getting tissue from abortions, let’s take a blastocyst and grow it.”
The research is part of an explosion of new techniques and ideas for studying early development. Today, in the same issue of Nature, two other research groups are reporting a leap forward in creating “artificial” human embryos.
Unfortunately it looks like no more wombs going forward, instead the new ideal environment is a glass jar, it’s kind of like that world economic forum add, you won’t own anything and you will be happy, you will be born in a glass jar and be happy.
They still had to use blood serum from the umbilical cord and pump oxygen in, they use the covid ventilators as an analogy, amazing.
Peat also spoke about oxygens effect in the body in said interview so the above doesn’t sound too good at the most important development stages.
This is another reason why the ruling class don’t care about the current human population, they believe we can make new ideal humans, less troublesome, it’s all starting to get nazi like again.
They also bizarrely see a "market" for babies for gays, 2 men can create the sperm and egg via stem cells.
The gloves are off in the world of cloning, China have been doing it for a long time so the west believes it has to keep up, the discussion around ethics will be nothing more than tokenism going forward, for show.
A mouse embryo has been grown in an artificial womb—humans could be next
Researchers are growing embryos outside the womb for longer than has ever been possible.
The photographs alone tell a fantastic story—a mouse embryo, complete with beating heart cells, a head, and the beginning of limbs, alive and growing in a glass jar.
According to a scientific group in Israel, which took the picture, the researchers have grown mice in an artificial womb for as long as 11 or 12 days, about half the animal’s natural gestation period.
It’s record for development of a mammal outside the womb, and according to the research team, human embryos could be next—raising huge new ethical questions.
“This sets the stage for other species,” says Jacob Hanna, a developmental biologist at the Weizmann Institute of Science, who led the research team. “I hope that it will allow scientists to grow human embryos until week five.”
Growing human embryos in the lab for that long, deep into the first trimester, would put science on a collision course with the abortion debate. Hanna believes lab-grown embryos could be a research substitute for tissue derived from abortions, and possibly a source of tissue for medical treatments as well.
How they did it
Hanna’s team grew the mouse embryos longer by adding blood serum from human umbilical cords, agitating them in glass jars, and pumping in a pressurized oxygen mixture. Hanna likens the process to putting a covid-19 patient on a ventilation machine.The mouse embryos only died after they became too large for the oxygen to diffuse through them, since they lack the natural blood supply a placenta could provide.
The work creates a scientific window onto the early embryo, which is normally hidden inside the uterus. In a publication today in the journal Nature, the Israeli team describes a series of experiments in which they added toxins, dyes, viruses, and human cells to the developing embryonic mice, all to study what would occur.
“It’s a tour de force—very, very impressive,” says Alfonso Martinez Arias, a developmental biologist and stem cell researcher based at Pompeu Fabra University in Spain, who was not involved in the research.
Next: humans
Hanna says scientists will want to develop human embryos this way too. He recognizes that images of lab-grown human embryos with a roughly recognizable shape—head, tail, and limb buds—could be shocking. The human equivalent of Hanna’s 12-day-old mice would be a first-trimester embryo.“That forces the oxygen into the cells,” he says. “Then the patient is much happier. You can see it has a blood system and all the major organ systems are working.”
I do understand the difficulties. I understand. You are entering the domain of abortions,” says Hanna. However, he says he can rationalize such experiments because researchers already study five-day-old human embryos from IVF clinics, which are also destroyed in that process.
“So I would advocate growing it until day 40 and then disposing of it,” says Hanna. “Instead of getting tissue from abortions, let’s take a blastocyst and grow it.”
The research is part of an explosion of new techniques and ideas for studying early development. Today, in the same issue of Nature, two other research groups are reporting a leap forward in creating “artificial” human embryos.
